# What did I not get about Ocean's Eleven? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 17, 2005, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256 "2005-01-17T22:45:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2005, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/1 "2005-01-17T22:45:27Z")
I kept hearing how fantastic a movie it was. I finally got around to watching it today, and, save the last ten minutes or so, I was thoroughly underwhelmed. I thought it was extremely slow-moving, the “chemistry” was forced, and everyone seemed seriously subdued. It wasn’t a bad movie, and I would watch it again if I had nothing else to watch, but… I don’t get the rave reviews. If I didn’t enjoy Eleven, would I enjoy Twelve? ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2005, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/2 "2005-01-17T23:05:09Z")
> [@TellMeI'mNotCrazy](#): > > If I didn’t enjoy Eleven, would I enjoy Twelve? Almost certainly No. The things that made 11 fun (for those of us who thought it was) are almost completely absent in the second. They may have had fun making it, but very little of that passes on through to the audience. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2005, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/3 "2005-01-17T23:09:40Z")
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! What is not to love? Eye Candy Classic, and I mean, CLASSIC one liners. \*Reuben: Look, we all go way back and uh, I owe you from the thing with the guy in the place and I’ll never forget it. Danny: That was our pleasure. Rusty: I’d never been to Belize \* Eye Candy. Predictable plot. Did I mention Eye Candy for wimmen & Gay Guys? Ocean’s 11 is in my top five Desert Island Flicks. It’s great to listen to while doing something handwork stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2005, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/4 "2005-01-17T23:10:31Z")
Well, but if TMINC _didn’t_ like 11, and if the things that generally made people like 11 (that TMINC didnt like) are absent from 12, doesn’t that mean TMNIC is more likely to like 12? ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2005, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/5 "2005-01-17T23:12:16Z")
Unless you are an unabashed celebrity worshipper, there is nothing about Ocean’s 12 that can be recommended to anyone no matter what they thought about any other film in the universe. ---
**Author:** ![Nightwatch\_Trailer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9dc877/32.png) [@Nightwatch\_Trailer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightwatch_Trailer)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/6 "2005-01-18T00:11:01Z")
> [@Exapno Mapcase](#): > > Unless you are an unabashed celebrity worshipper, there is nothing about Ocean’s 12 that can be recommended to anyone no matter what they thought about any other film in the universe. That’s probably the best one-sentence review I’ve ever seen for any movie… ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/7 "2005-01-18T01:19:47Z")
I loved _Ocean’s Eleven_ (just good escapist fun and \*\*Shirley \*\*explained the rest) and despite how much it’s getting panned, I already have _Ocean’s Twelve_ in my Netflix queue. Of course, _Gigli_’s on it too. ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/8 "2005-01-18T06:28:22Z")
Another vote for the one liners, particularly at the end. \*I hope you were the groom. Ted Nugent wants his shirt back. You told me you got rid of that. Liar. Thief.\* And a Ford Falcon ragtop. What’s not to love? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/9 "2005-01-18T06:32:35Z")
You didn’t get that it’s not a major plot-driven film. It’s a series of cute one-liners and capers and double-twists, with clever pretty boys delivering clever pretty boy performances. I enjoyed Ocean’s Twelve a lot, but if Eleven wasn’t up your alley, Twelve won’t be either. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/10 "2005-01-18T07:14:53Z")
I really liked _Ocean’s Eleven_, but I absolutely hated _Ocean’s Twelve_. They totally cheated on a major plot point involving Julia Roberts’ character, and I can’t forgive them for that. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/11 "2005-01-18T09:02:59Z")
What you didn’t get was that it was a robbery movie for people who don’t like robbery movies. I freakin’ _hate_ heist movies where there are lots of car chases and lots of things blow up. They bore the tits off me. I’d much rather sit at home and watch my dogs chew their asses than sit in a theater and watch one of those. But I really rather liked Oceans 11. I had a lot of fun trying to fit together the logistics of how it was all going to go down. And, of course, there was always the off chance that Brad Pitt might lose his pants. It’s a shame that didn’t happen, actually. It would have taken it from enjoyable movie to must-own-on-DVD movie. And if they’d panned in for a long, close shot, it would have been…I’m sorry, what were we talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@Scoundrel\_Swanswater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoundrel_Swanswater)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/12 "2005-01-18T13:31:11Z")
Not much to add… except that it is better than day-time television. Or… I was also not impressed. ---
**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/13 "2005-01-18T13:39:54Z")
I think I would have loved reading the script. The writing seemed well done, and very witty… I just thought the execution left a lot to be desired. Of course, it might not help that I’m neither a Clooney nor Pitt fan, so that didn’t hold much appeal for me on its own. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/14 "2005-01-18T13:57:37Z")
Neither the original **Ocean’s Eleven** nor the remake nor its sequel were about anything except watching the stars have self-indulgent fun. There isn’t anything else to “get.” If you don’t ind that basic premise entertaining, and I didn’t, you won’t enjoy any of the movies. ---
**Author:** ![wnorthr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecccb3/32.png) [@wnorthr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wnorthr)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/15 "2005-01-18T16:19:35Z")
**"They bore the tits off me"** I just wanted to say ya gotta love a woman who’ll use a line like that. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/16 "2005-01-18T16:30:11Z")
> [@Exapno Mapcase](#): > > Unless you are an unabashed celebrity worshipper, there is nothing about Ocean’s 12 that can be recommended to anyone no matter what they thought about any other film in the universe. You say **Celebrity Worshipper** like its a bad thing. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mermaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@The\_Mermaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mermaid)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/17 "2005-01-18T16:36:19Z")
I liked Ocean’s Eleven but haven’t seen Twelve yet. I also heard that Julia Robert’s was the worst part of both movies. I generally like Julia but found her character shrewish and ugly to the core in the first movie. (I’m not joking Danny) Did anyone else notice that Brad Pitt’s character is ALWAYS eating something? I mean always be it sandwich, fruit cup, whatever in every scene he has something in his mouth. I also like Carl Reiner’s character a lot. Did you know that Lymon Zerga roughly translates to the spanish for “pain in the ass”. ---
**Author:** ![rjk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@rjk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjk)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/18 "2005-01-18T17:03:17Z")
> [@CrazyCatLady](#): > > What you didn’t get was that it was a robbery movie for people who don’t like robbery movies. I freakin’ _hate_ heist movies where there are lots of car chases and lots of things blow up. They bore the tits off me. I’d much rather sit at home and watch my dogs chew their asses than sit in a theater and watch one of those. But I really rather liked Oceans 11. I had a lot of fun trying to fit together the logistics of how it was all going to go down. And, of course, there was always the off chance that Brad Pitt might lose his pants. It’s a shame that didn’t happen, actually. It would have taken it from enjoyable movie to must-own-on-DVD movie. And if they’d panned in for a long, close shot, it would have been…I’m sorry, what were we talking about? While I have no desire to see Brad Pitt with his pants off, I agree that car chases and explosions are boring. (I have no tits either, but all sorts of body parts start dropping off if I watch a movie like that.) The _good_ caper movies do spend their time on logistics and planning. And, of course, there _is_ always the off chance that _someone_ of the appropriate gender might lose _some_ significant item of clothing. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![kinoons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a698b9/32.png) [@kinoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kinoons)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/19 "2005-01-18T17:07:17Z")
> [@The Mermaid](#): > > Did anyone else notice that Brad Pitt’s character is ALWAYS eating something? I mean always be it sandwich, fruit cup, whatever in every scene he has something in his mouth. I happen to love this movie…enough to even listen to the commentary on the bonus tracks…and they talked about this. The reasioning was that they are always on the move, so he never gets a chance to stop and eat… Also when he is eating shrimp and tess is coming down stairs when we first meet her, the different angles show either a plate or shrimp, or a goblet…oops… ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-i-not-get-about-oceans-eleven/285256/20 "2005-01-18T17:10:35Z")
_Ocean’s Eleven_ was all surface. If you didn’t like what you saw, then you didn’t like the movie. There was no subtext.