# What did Sheelba of the Eyeless Face say to Fafhrd and the Mouser as they were leaving Lankhmar?

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**Created:** [June 28, 2021, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-sheelba-of-the-eyeless-face-say-to-fafhrd-and-the-mouser-as-they-were-leaving-lankhmar/945153 "2021-06-28T03:57:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-sheelba-of-the-eyeless-face-say-to-fafhrd-and-the-mouser-as-they-were-leaving-lankhmar/945153/1 "2021-06-28T03:57:35Z")

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It was after their girls had been killed and they’d taken revenge and were leaving Lankhmar forever, they thought.

But Sheelba caught them up and said something about « never and ever is never for men / you’ll be coming again and again »

Have I got that right? If not what did Sheelba say?

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![JohnnyEcks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnnyecks/32/18197_2.png) [@JohnnyEcks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnnyEcks)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-sheelba-of-the-eyeless-face-say-to-fafhrd-and-the-mouser-as-they-were-leaving-lankhmar/945153/2 "2021-06-28T10:52:50Z")

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You got it right, it was in “The Circle Curse”, which details their first encounter with both wizards.

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**Author:** ![JohnnyEcks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnnyecks/32/18197_2.png) [@JohnnyEcks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnnyEcks)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-sheelba-of-the-eyeless-face-say-to-fafhrd-and-the-mouser-as-they-were-leaving-lankhmar/945153/3 "2021-06-28T10:54:30Z")

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Actually just mostly right-

Never and forever are neither for men,  
You’ll be returning again and again.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2021, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-sheelba-of-the-eyeless-face-say-to-fafhrd-and-the-mouser-as-they-were-leaving-lankhmar/945153/4 "2021-06-28T12:46:12Z")

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Thanks!