# What Did You Learn From Jim Morrison's **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 4, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-learn-from-jim-morrisons/839703 "2019-09-04T19:59:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-learn-from-jim-morrisons/839703/21 "2019-09-05T16:20:30Z")
Combinatorics from _The Crystal Ship_: “A thousand girls, a thousand thrills A million ways to spend your time” |A| \* |B| = | A x B | ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-learn-from-jim-morrisons/839703/22 "2019-09-05T16:33:17Z")
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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-learn-from-jim-morrisons/839703/23 "2019-09-05T16:36:54Z")
I’ve learned that he was a pretentious twatwaffle but not nearly as pretentious as he was portrayed in that awful movie. I still like a lot of the music. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-learn-from-jim-morrisons/839703/24 "2019-09-05T17:23:27Z")
The Doors are on a short list of ‘60s performers, along with Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin, who I liked just fine when I was in high school and college, and haven’t listened to in 30 years. OTOH, I regularly break out volumes of Yeats, Williams, Rilke, Frost, Larkin, Plath, Apollinaire, etc., and dig them just as much as when I was a fairly strong young rose. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-learn-from-jim-morrisons/839703/25 "2019-09-05T17:51:06Z")
Morrison’s lyrics - most good song lyrics, to be honest - are meant to evoke emotion. I am not sure you’re supposed to learn anything from them; you’re supposed to FEEL something from them. > [@Loach](#): > > I’ve learned that he was a pretentious twatwaffle but not nearly as pretentious as he was portrayed in that awful movie. I still like a lot of the music. I mean, you couldn’t be the way Morrison was portrayed in the movie and accomplish anything. Morrison really could sing, was bright, very well read, and knew a little bit about writing music. Until he really fell apart he was a productive member of a group that churned our six studio albums in five years, all of them pretty good. Morrison absolutely was a wild guy, but the superhuman level of it is to a large extent a creation of Ray Manzarek. I don’t think it’s than Manzarek was lying, I think he just worshiped Morrison. ---
**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-learn-from-jim-morrisons/839703/26 "2019-09-05T22:16:43Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > That you must never go down to the end of the town if you don’t go down with me. Excellent! ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-learn-from-jim-morrisons/839703/27 "2019-09-05T22:31:29Z")
I can’t say that I learned anything from Jim, but I can say that he, Robbie, Ray and John made a lot of music that I really love. From the opening of Break On Through to the final fade out of Riders On The Storm, The Doors created a unique lyrical and musical world, one that I go back to often. One of my best Doors memories is driving through LA and up the coast through Malibu on an almost traffic-free Christmas morning with The Very Best Of The Doors playing. it was just the perfect soundtrack for that time and place. ---
**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-learn-from-jim-morrisons/839703/28 "2019-09-05T23:08:48Z")
> [@MortSahlFan](#): > > He’d miss so many shows, and wouldn’t even play “the game” early on. In his last audio interview he admits “I see myself as an intelligent, sensitive human, with the soul of a clown which forces me to blow it at the most important moments.” Nah. If he blew it at the most important moments nobody would have heard of him. I have experience with this. Let’s see…I learned that ‘L.A. Woman’ was one of my favorite songs to play drums for in bar bands in the '80s. Epic. I like the phrase “Roman wilderness of pain” and ‘The End’ as the opening for Apocalypse Now! is probably my favorite beginning of a movie ever. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-learn-from-jim-morrisons/839703/29 "2019-09-06T01:15:44Z")
With rare exceptions (Shelley, Keats, Mozart, Dylan) one is not as brilliant or profound in their mid-20s as we’d like to believe. Even Alan Ginsberg didn’t write \*Howl \*until he was 30. Jim Morrison was not Shelley, Keats, Mozart of Dylan. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-learn-from-jim-morrisons/839703/30 "2019-09-06T01:46:28Z")
> [@MortSahlFan](#): > > Short and lucid interview with Jim Morrison on Canadian Broadcasting with Tony Thomas > [https://youtu.be/dadQebCe6N0](https://youtu.be/dadQebCe6N0) That’s wonderful - thanks. Insights about computers, women and society, and much else. ---
**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-learn-from-jim-morrisons/839703/31 "2019-09-06T09:53:28Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > That’s wonderful - thanks. Insights about computers, women and society, and much else. You’re welcome. It’s a fine interview. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-learn-from-jim-morrisons/839703.md?page=1)