# What Did You think of Hillary's Performance? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491 "2015-10-22T22:58:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/21 "2015-10-23T14:21:23Z")
She just won the election. Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/22 "2015-10-23T14:32:57Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > She just won the election. Deal with it. Do you remember when the Republicans were actually _competent_ at assaulting the Clintons? Do you remember when the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy made everyone think Hillary was nuts for saying there was Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy? Do you remember Vince Foster and the Clinton Death List? These days we have a Massive Right-Wing Clusterfuck full of chucklefucks who outright admit they’re going after her for purely political reasons, and who give her a wonderful podium on which to act all strong and competent and possessed of more faculties than a hyperactive chipmunk. Certainly draws a strong distinction between her and the alternative, wouldn’t you say? I never thought I’d see the day when the GOP was unable to mount a good honest dishonest smear campaign against Hillary Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/23 "2015-10-23T14:38:04Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > I never thought I’d see the day when the GOP was unable to mount a good honest dishonest smear campaign against Hillary Clinton. It’s the ‘Boy Who Cried Wolf’. They’ve been after her for nearly 25 years without coming up with any substance. The GOP relies on simplistic jingoism for their smear campaigns, they have no patience for an in depth analysis that shows how disastrous Hillary’s administration will be, without a simple three word mantra like ‘Benghazi’ that actually has some teeth they won’t get anywhere. They don’t need something big, just enough that the public hasn’t gone deaf to the charge. This is another sign of how disorganized the GOP has become, they can’t get their operatives to agree on the next phony scandal to push which makes all the years of shouting Benghazi a waste. This race ain’t over, but it may as well be. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/24 "2015-10-23T14:44:23Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > It’s the ‘Boy Who Cried Wolf’. There is also a lot of boy-who-cried-wolfism in the fact that Bernie Sanders hasn’t been laughed out of serious consideration from his self-description as a democratic socialist. ---
**Author:** ![chaika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chaika/32/405_2.png) [@chaika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaika)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/25 "2015-10-23T14:49:31Z")
I didn’t watch all 11 hours of her testimony (did anybody?), but from what I saw I think she did well. All that nonsense about Sidney Blumenthal would have made me want to roll my eyes or snap, “For God’s sake, what the hell are you talking about?” Trey Gowdy sounded like a raving loon. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/26 "2015-10-23T14:50:55Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > I liked how 650 emails (requesting more security) NEVER reached her highness’s desk. Gives new meaning to the term “leadership”. WE don’t need a president anymore-why elect her anyway? Lets just establish a monarchy and be done with it. Your ignorance is showing (again). You have zero idea how the Department of State (or any other huge bureaucracy) works. It’s highly compartmentalized, with hundreds of contact points. Diplomatic Security (who I worked for over a four year period) is one such department. They are tasked with providing all aspects of facility and personnel security at hundreds of overseas consulates and embassies. As such, they have a budget to work with, and that budget is determined by Congress. Requests for things like physical upgrades or additional personnel are usually generated from the post’s Regional Security Officer (RSO), after discussion with the post’s ambassador. ALL official messages from an embassy or consulate are addressed to the SECSTATE, but very few come to his/her direct attention. That’s because they have a tag line that routes them to the appropriate department or office that deals with the subject issue. If that were not the case, the SECSTATE would be inundated with every mundane issue on the planet. Posts routinely ask for more money for things like security. That doesn’t mean the SECSTATE sees them, or even that the post necessarily needs the money. A truly urgent security situation would be the subject of a phone call between the ambassador and the Secretary. Since this never happened, she likely would have been unaware of the cabled requests. Now to the notion of ‘additional security’. What, exactly, do you think that would have entailed? The only additional security that could have helped in Libya would have been personnel, and those personnel would have to have been military, since the DOS doesn’t have a paramilitary force at their disposal. Do you really think that the Libyan government would have allowed the US to send military troops into their _sovereign nation_ as part of a permanent embassy staff? It’s hard enough to get countries like this to allow the Marine Security Guard detachments (which are minimally manned) in. Now I’m sure that you will not let facts sway your opinion, but perhaps your uninformed rants would be better suited to a different website, where others share your lack of understanding. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/27 "2015-10-23T15:01:50Z")
She look like she will be our next President. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/28 "2015-10-23T15:04:21Z")
I think her performance just clinched the election for her. The Republicans on the committee looked like what they are: totally partisan political clowns without a brain cell among them. Hill should send Trey a box of candy as a thank you when she gets (re-)settled in at 1600. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/29 "2015-10-23T15:06:41Z")
I can understand Hillary would not pay attention to emails from the embassy in Burkina Faso. But Libya? I mean, the CIA had some important operations there, and the ambassador had requested help. Of course, maybe these issues were too trivial for her highness.😕 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/30 "2015-10-23T15:11:38Z")
She looked presidential, possibly for the first time in her campaign. The committee was a hysterical, flailing, pathetic mess, and Gowdy had a terrible case of the flop sweats, which served to make Clinton look even better. It was a good day for her overall. And you KNOW she did well because FoxNews stopped broadcasting the hearing halfway through the day. If she was struggling or looking bad they’d have been running it throughout with constant commentary. **ralph124c** , if you want to make a compelling argument perhaps referring to Clinton as “her highness” is not the way to establish credibility. Also, honorifics should be capitalized (“Her Highness”). ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/31 "2015-10-23T15:14:01Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > (In front of the House)? I think she never answered anything, dancing around all the questions. Plus, lots of “ums”-she really sounded tired. For someone who has tons of aides and advisers, she seems to have a lot of trouble recalling things. > What did you think of the performance? ol’ Hillary’s early email to Chelsea proved that ol’ Hillary knew that the Benghazi attack was not the result of some movie but an actual terrorist group’s assault on the compound. ol’ Hillary didn’t seem to want to share that same information with the voters??? I happen to agree with ol’ Hillary that all of her emails should be released to the voters/public. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/32 "2015-10-23T15:20:34Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > She looked presidential, possibly for the first time in her campaign. The committee was a hysterical, flailing, pathetic mess, and Gowdy had a terrible case of the flop sweats, which served to make Clinton look even better. It was a good day for her overall. I agree. I usually find her appearing more insincere, rehearsed, and stiff. Yesterday she looked confident, and personable, and definitely in command. The “questions” were stupid, and–of course-- not questions at all. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/33 "2015-10-23T15:21:25Z")
Is anyone else just _embarrassed_ for the GOP at this point? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/34 "2015-10-23T15:35:07Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > Is anyone else just _embarrassed_ for the GOP at this point? More like delighted in. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/35 "2015-10-23T15:35:44Z")
Nope. They deserve every bit of the scorn and derision they are getting. And more. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/36 "2015-10-23T15:38:17Z")
She looked like someone who will chew up and spit out any candidate the Republicans send against her. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/37 "2015-10-23T15:40:33Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > ol’ Hillary’s early email to Chelsea proved that ol’ Hillary knew that the Benghazi attack was not the result of some movie but an actual terrorist group’s assault on the compound. > > ol’ Hillary didn’t seem to want to share that same information with the voters??? Perhaps if you genuinely want answers rather than just more opportunities to say “Ol’ Hillary”, you might read [this article](http://www.newsweek.com/benghazi-biopsy-comprehensive-guide-one-americas-worst-political-outrages-385853). Here’s a relevant excerpt: > [@](#): > > As occurs in most rapidly moving crises, American intelligence officials were struggling to sift through conflicting information to determine what had really happened. (A similar struggle led the CIA to initially—and incorrectly—conclude that the Islamist group Hezbollah was behind the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on 9/11.) CIA analysts had written a report stating that the evidence suggested the Benghazi attack was a spontaneous one that grew out of the protests. After those intelligence officers headed home, a senior CIA editor with knowledge of the military, but not of Libya or the events in Benghazi, added a sentence saying that the weaponry possessed by the attackers suggested it was a planned attack. > > By that afternoon, Clinton had heard the same thing. Notes she received for a 4:30 p.m. meeting said a militant group called Ansar al-Sharia was responsible for the attack. The embassy in Tripoli reported that the assault appeared to be pre-planned. Later, Clinton spoke by phone with the prime minister of Egypt, telling him they knew the events in Benghazi had nothing to do with the controversial video. > > Then that intelligence began to fall apart. Ansar al-Sharia disavowed any role in the attack, and the American intelligence analysts who covered Libya, who had been complaining about the sentence added by the senior CIA editor, began assembling a thorough review that was fully coordinated between the relevant intelligence officers in multiple agencies. That report, titled “Extremists Capitalized on Benghazi Protests” and completed on September 13, stated, “We assess the attacks on Tuesday against the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi began spontaneously.’’ It continued, “The attacks began spontaneously following the protests at the U.S. embassy in Cairo.” It also stated that extremists connected to Al-Qaeda were involved in the attacks, although there are no known operational connections between Ansar al-Sharia and Al-Qaeda. The statement about Al-Qaeda would prove to be wrong. > > The intelligence community assembled its information into talking points for Susan Rice, the American ambassador to the United Nations, for her to use when speaking on Sunday morning talk shows. Her statements on September 16 lined up perfectly with the information provided by the intelligence agencies; a statement from the agencies would later be released attesting to that fact. There’s much more but I don’t want to break the board rules on overquoting. It’s quite a long article and this part is a fair ways down. But it explains why Clinton said different things at different times in a way that makes more sense than any conspiracy theory about why she might have lied about it to the voters. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/38 "2015-10-23T15:49:53Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > I can understand Hillary would not pay attention to emails from the embassy in Burkina Faso. But Libya? I mean, the CIA had some important operations there, and the ambassador had requested help. Of course, maybe these issues were too trivial for her highness.😕 OK, you’ve convinced me. There’s no way I can vote for her now. So I must vote for someone else. Is there anyone that you would suggest? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/39 "2015-10-23T15:54:54Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > I can understand Hillary would not pay attention to emails from the embassy in Burkina Faso. But Libya? I mean, the CIA had some important operations there, and the ambassador had requested help. Of course, maybe these issues were too trivial for her highness. **ralph** , serious question. Do you work in a large organization? If so, let’s say you want something important - it can be a raise, or your computer is broken and you need a new one otherwise your work stops, or if there’s a fire in your office, whatever - do you email your CEO asking for that important thing? Or do you ask HR, your office manager, or whomever it is that deals with that issue? That’s right. You ask the person who does that thing that you want done. And if you can’t live with the response, then you elevate it. This is the complex way of saying that those 650 emails (if that is indeed the number) were not addressed to Clinton. The literally only two new things that came out of the hearing was that Chris Stevens didn’t have Clinton’s email address, and Clinton didn’t do most of her work by email. (Shocking!! Let’s get to the bottom of why Clinton had six million emails trying to sell her V!@gara and cheap home loans, but the AMBASSADOR TO RUSSIA never emailed her!!!1! Call a new committee together, the “House Select Committee on Hillary Clinton’s Electronic Work Ethic!”) Clinton did fine yesterday. The Republicans, particularly Gowdy, Pompeo, and Jordan, were outright embarrassments. I await the SNL spoof of Gowdy asking why Dominos Pizza knows Clinton’s home address, but an important person like Trey Gowdy does not. (Cut to Gowdy filling up Halloween basket with TP and raw eggs) ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/40 "2015-10-23T16:05:31Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > …But it explains why Clinton said different things at different times in a way that makes more sense than any conspiracy theory about why she might have lied about it to the voters. (post shortened) Since ol’ Hillary’s honesty and trustworthiness has been an ongoing problem with the voters in swing states and across the nation, maybe ol’ Hillary should consider telling the truth the first time she’s requested to answer a question. \*Poll: Clinton’s honesty and trustworthy problem extends to swing states Swing state poll: Clinton not honest, trustworthy (CNN)—A majority of voters in three key presidential swing states view Hillary Clinton as not honest and trustworthy, according to a new poll out Wednesday. The Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll finds that by margins of 8 to 14 percentage points voters in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania are skeptical of Clinton’s trustworthiness. In Florida, 51% of voters hold the negative view of Clinton, compared to 43% who feel she is trustworthy. In Ohio, 53% of voters find Clinton not trustworthy, compared to 40% who do. And in Pennsylvania, 54% of voters don’t find her honest, while 40% do. …Clinton’s early state honest and trustworthy numbers follow what a CNN/ORC poll released earlier this month found: 42% of Americans consider her honest and trustworthy, while 57% don’t.\* > **[Poll: Clinton’s honesty and trustworthy problem extends to swing states | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2015/06/17/politics/poll-2016-elections-hillary-clinton-trustworthy/index.html)** > > A majority of voters in three key presidential swing states view Hillary Clinton as not honest and trustworthy, according to a new poll out Wednesday. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491.md?page=3)