# What Did You think of Hillary's Performance? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 22, 2015, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491 "2015-10-22T22:58:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/41 "2015-10-23T16:18:19Z")
So…given detailed information explaining why your assertion that Clinton was lying was based on faulty assumptions, you move the goalpost to a whole new field and \*repeat \*the debunked assertion. Perhaps we could have a poll about your own trustworthiness. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/42 "2015-10-23T16:19:45Z")
I don’t know what I think of it - I haven’t had a chance to watch Fox News yet to learn. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/43 "2015-10-23T16:21:08Z")
Hillary Clinton blew it out of the water and showed what a partisan circlejerk the GOP committee was. I wouldn’t be surprised if her polls go up after this. Her frank, blunt, and clear answers are just what I expect from a Clinton presidency and someone who knows how and is willing to fight back against GOP obstruction and lies ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/44 "2015-10-23T16:26:32Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > I can understand Hillary would not pay attention to emails from the embassy in Burkina Faso. But Libya? I mean, the CIA had some important operations there, and the ambassador had requested help. Of course, maybe these issues were too trivial for her highness.😕 Try reading for comprehension for a change. Once more, in simple English: messages don’t normally go directly to the SECSTATE; they go to the appropriate department. While Stevens did ask directly for additional personnel, it would have increased the staff at Benghazi from two to five, hardly a defense force, and unlikely to have changed what occurred. There were physical barrier upgrades done, but things like guard towers were denied because these are _diplomatic missions_ that try not to exhibit a belligerent stance. Ben Ghazi, and the embassy in Tripoli are both poorly defended, physically, as are many posts in these sorts of regions. Many of them rely on local military/police to guard them, but those forces are notoriously unreliable and even sympathetic to anti-American groups. The DOS doesn’t have an unlimited supply of trained security officers, and there are demands on it from all corners of the globe. What usually happens is that there is a Regional Security Officer (or even more than one) in a place like, say, Cairo, who travel to other posts in the region to assist the local security officer. This is also true for medical and other specialties. The CIA has important operations at most embassies on the planet. They are either overt or clandestine or both, depending on what is needed. The CIA reports to - surprise! - the CIA Director, while keeping the ambassador informed as to operations. By the way, Stevens was advised by his RSO not to travel to Ben Ghazi. It’s not uncommon for ambassadors to ignore that sort of advice in order to “show the flag”. They know full well the consequences of not taking good advice; in this case, the gamble ended badly. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/45 "2015-10-23T16:27:31Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > She just won the election. Deal with it. I think she proved that she can withstand an 11 hour barrage and emerge unscathed. I’m more convinced than ever she’ll get my vote. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/46 "2015-10-23T16:28:52Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Perhaps if you genuinely want answers rather than just more opportunities to say “Ol’ Hillary”, you might read [this article](http://www.newsweek.com/benghazi-biopsy-comprehensive-guide-one-americas-worst-political-outrages-385853). Here’s a relevant excerpt:There’s much more but I don’t want to break the board rules on overquoting. It’s quite a long article and this part is a fair ways down. But it explains why Clinton said different things at different times in a way that makes more sense than any conspiracy theory about why she might have lied about it to the voters. Thanks for the link, but it’s really not necessary. I got exactly the same sequence just listening to Hillary’s answers to those questions. Now, it’s one thing for someone to say they don’t believe what she said, but then they need to find evidence that Ansar Al-Sharia didn’t deny its involvement a day or two after the incident, and that the CIA didn’t tell Susan Rice that their best estimate was that the video incited a riot. But that’s not what O’Reilly and Kelly and Hannity, and god help us, Lindsey Graham, are saying. They’re saying that Hillary had NO explanation for why she told Chelsea one thing, and then Susan Rice said a different thing several days later. Like every Republican involved in this travesty, they refuse to provide context, and then make shit up. Lindsey Graham, on Fox News a couple hours ago, said that Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice deliberately conspired to lie to the American people. That cocksucker Graham even went on to say that Clinton refused to strengthen security in Benghazi because Obama was making speeches about how he had ended the threat from Al Qaeda, and beefing up security in Benghazi would undercut that message — as if anyone in the US would even know it had been done. As if more than a handful of people in the US had even heard of it before the attack. By the by, I found a [website](http://presidentialrhetoric.com/campaign2012/index.html) that has transcripts of all of Obama’s 2012 campaign speeches. Since he was the sitting President and ran unopposed for the Dem nomination, there weren’t that many — a couple dozen. Several of them said nothing about terrorism, and the ones that did, all said pretty much the same thing. Here’s what he said on Sept 6, right before the attack, at the Democratic convention: “You know, in a world of new threats and new challenges, you can choose leadership that has been tested and proven. Four years ago I promised to end the war in Iraq. We did. (Cheers, applause.) I promised to refocus on the terrorists who actually attacked us on 9/11, and we have. (Cheers, applause.) We’ve blunted the Taliban’s momentum in Afghanistan and in 2014, our longest war will be over. (Cheers, applause.) A new tower rises above the New York skyline, al- Qaida is on the path to defeat and Osama bin Laden is dead. (Cheers, applause.)” That’s the only mention of terrorism, and none of his speeches say any more than that. Several said nothing about al qaeda, and several more confined it to Afghanistan. “al- Qaida is on the path to defeat” is what Lindsey Graham would have us believe was the phrase that made Hillary refuse to protect our people in Benghazi. What does it say about our country, when close to half of the people, including a senator who is running for President, believe this crap? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/47 "2015-10-23T16:35:28Z")
> [@harmonicamoon](#): > > I don’t live in the US of A. Did this Performance have a name? Date? Maybe I could view it. Gracias Starting on Thursday, October 22, 2015, Hillary Clinton testified for a total of 11 hours in four sessions before the U.S. House of Representatives Select Committee on Benghazi. The video is posted on the committee’s website —[https://benghazi.house.gov/hearings](https://benghazi.house.gov/hearings) ---
**Author:** ![stillownedbysetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@stillownedbysetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stillownedbysetters)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/48 "2015-10-23T16:37:28Z")
Would someone please tell the Pubbies that not only is this horse dead, it’s decomposed and stinking up the carpeting? Say what you will about the Clintons, they are both smart as whips, and they always come prepared. I’m inclined to believe the anecdotal story that they plotted the whole husband-then-wife presidency thing back when the met in college. Sorry, folks. If there ever was anything there to be outraged about, there is little to no chance it will ever come out now. Time to call the knackers for this one and go find another horse to beat. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/49 "2015-10-23T16:43:52Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > So…given detailed information explaining why your assertion that Clinton was lying was based on faulty assumptions, you move the goalpost to a whole new field and \*repeat \*the debunked assertion. Perhaps we could have a poll about your own trustworthiness. Hahahaha. If you have a problem with the poll results showing that a majority of voters consider ol’ Hillary to be untrustworthy, you should contact the media outlets who published it, or the pollsters who collected the data, and tell them of your displeasure. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/50 "2015-10-23T16:49:27Z")
Republicans failed to turn up anything new and, thus, failed to legitimize why we needed this circus in the first place after numerous other committees and studies. Clinton kept her cool and did probably about the best job she could do in the situation. After two GOP Congressmen and the staffer spoke about this being all politics, they really needed to trap Clinton into saying something big to run up as a prize. Instead it looks like a huge waste of time and money. So, yeah, Clinton did just fine. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/51 "2015-10-23T16:50:50Z")
I mailed Trey Gowdy telling him that I appreciated seeing how Hillary does under 11 hours of pressure. I thanked him for allowing her to demonstration that she’s cool, calm, composed and focused under such circumstances. I think those 11 hours will be pivotal in the election results. Will we call her Mrs. President or Madam President? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/52 "2015-10-23T16:54:35Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > The Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll finds that by margins of 8 to 14 percentage points voters in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania are skeptical of Clinton’s trustworthiness. > > In Florida, 51% of voters hold the negative view of Clinton, compared to 43% who feel she is trustworthy. In Ohio, 53% of voters find Clinton not trustworthy, compared to 40% who do. And in Pennsylvania, 54% of voters don’t find her honest, while 40% do. I _might_ be more impressed if they published some stats on how the voters viewed the trustworthiness of the rest of the candidate line up. I mean, I don’t trust _any_ politicians across the board. Asking me if Clinton is trustworthy is meaningless because I’d answer exactly the same for any other politician: no, not trustworthy. When every choice is evil you just trust to pick the least evil of the group. Honestly, look at the numbers on Congress - even fewer people trust that entity. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/53 "2015-10-23T16:54:48Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > I mailed Trey Gowdy telling him that I appreciated seeing how Hillary does under 11 hours of pressure. I thanked him for allowing her to demonstration that she’s cool, calm, composed and focused under such circumstances. I think those 11 hours will be pivotal in the election results. > > Will we call her Mrs. President or Madam President? Will she keep her Secret Service code name ‘Hubba’? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/54 "2015-10-23T16:57:43Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > ol’ Hillary’s early email to Chelsea proved that ol’ Hillary knew that the Benghazi attack was not the result of some movie but an actual terrorist group’s assault on the compound. > > ol’ Hillary didn’t seem to want to share that same information with the voters??? And what about this exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/55 "2015-10-23T16:58:14Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > What does it say about our country, when close to half of the people, including a senator who is running for President, believe this crap? Most people are idiots and will believe whatever their party tells them. What it says about our country is that most people don’t follow politics except for the short window when it’s time to elect a President and since they don’t know what the hell has been going on they just rely on what their side tells them in that short window. And then they vote. Which is why we’re stuck with the same old same old lying whores. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/56 "2015-10-23T17:08:00Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Hahahaha. If you have a problem with the poll results showing that a majority of voters consider ol’ Hillary to be untrustworthy, you should contact the media outlets who published it, or the pollsters who collected the data, and tell them of your displeasure. Polls don’t determine whether ‘ol’ Hillary’ was lying about one thing or another and **Gyrate** didn’t say anything about having a problem with them. Anyway, I can understand your disappointment. Supposedly a majority of voters find her untrustworthy, and yet they still seem to prefer her over any of the Republicans. That’s gotta sting a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/57 "2015-10-23T17:10:45Z")
So what’s next? Are they finally going to let this die? Surely even Republicans are tired of this “scandal” by now. What’s their end? ---
**Author:** ![harmonicamoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@harmonicamoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmonicamoon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/58 "2015-10-23T18:13:44Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > It was an 11 hour hearing, sure you have the time? Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/59 "2015-10-23T19:06:49Z")
> [@Renee](#): > > So what’s next? Are they finally going to let this die? Surely even Republicans are tired of this “scandal” by now. What’s their end? My guess is that this will end around election day next year, especially if she is defeated in the general election. ---
**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491/60 "2015-10-23T19:16:20Z")
Had to see how fox was spinning this. Headline: Clinton showed chilling glimpse of her soul at Benghazi hearings Hahaha [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-hillarys-performance/735491.md?page=4)