# What did you think of Trump on The Apprentice? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 22, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036 "2018-03-22T18:35:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/1 "2018-03-22T18:35:25Z")
I never watched it. Those who did, what did you think? Did he come off as a good businessman, an effective boss, good at motivating people and getting stuff done? Also, [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=314235) is interesting in retrospect. GWB pre-empted prime time so he could talk about Social Security. > [@](#): > > Because it’s for a stupid speech, the content of which will be absolutely ZERO, the consequence of which will be absolutely NOTHING, the point of which is absolutely MISSING. You interrupt prime time because war has broken out. You interrupt prime time because aliens have landed. You interrupt prime time because the Republic is about to fail. You do not interrupt prime time to rehash fifty-year-old bullshit about funny-money trusts that don’t exist and make it sound like you have a plan that will succeed where the forty thousand plans before it failed. Meanwhile, these are important nights for Survivor and Apprentice. Only in the 21st century could that happen: the sitting President pre-empting a future President. ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/2 "2018-03-22T18:47:23Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > I never watched it. Those who did, what did you think? Did he come off as a good businessman, an effective boss, good at motivating people and getting stuff done? I watched every season of the original (non-celebrity) version of The Apprentice. Did he come off as a good businessman? No. An effective boss? No. Good at motivating people and getting stuff done? No. Highly entertaining? Yes. An expert at hosting a reality T.V. show? Yes. Occasionally insightful about an individual’s behavior or motivation? Yes. He did a good job with the show – I would not have had a problem voting for him to host a different reality show. But he didn’t demonstrate either business ability or political ability. He did demonstrate a willingness to do whatever he pleased, without regard for rules or consequences. It made for fun T.V. ---
**Author:** ![Tired\_and\_Cranky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@Tired\_and\_Cranky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tired_and_Cranky)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/3 "2018-03-22T18:52:18Z")
I watched part of the first season with Omarosa. I mostly thought that it was contrived to put people in dramatic situations. I assumed that the people who got to stay on the show were the people who were the best for ratings and likely the most dramatic. I got no particular impression, good or bad, of Trump’s business acumen. I do remember thinking that if he were a real billionaire, spending a little time eking out better performance from his portfolio would have to be worth more than the perhaps $20 million per year (just guessing) he got for doing the show. I also read an article recently that said his decisions were basically impulsive. [In The White House Cabinet Room, Parallels To 'Apprentice' Boardroom : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2018/03/08/591742988/in-the-white-house-cabinet-room-parallels-to-apprentice-boardroom) The same producer also said his decisions were racist. [http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/354205-former-apprentice-producer-trumps-behind-the-scenes-comments-were-very-much](http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/354205-former-apprentice-producer-trumps-behind-the-scenes-comments-were-very-much) ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/4 "2018-03-22T19:02:13Z")
I watched 2 or 3 seasons of Celebrity Apprentice. It was an entertaining trainwreck but I found Trump’s decisions at the end of each show to be annoying to infuriating. He was clearly choosing the biggest idiot to stay, for ratings, and in no way based on actual talent or business acumen. There’s no way I came away from the show thinking Donald Trump was a good businessman. He was a creepy showman. I actually liked Don Jr and Ivanka on the show. They seemed level-headed (at the time!) ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/5 "2018-03-22T20:15:48Z")
I did like the show, but it was in spite of the Trump Family. I was not impressed by Donald and I found his children to be obnoxious. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/6 "2018-03-22T21:05:20Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I did like the show, but it was in spite of the Trump Family. I was not impressed by Donald and I found his children to be obnoxious. I’m not sure why, but I’m surprised to learn his children were on the show. I had no idea and never imagined they took part in it. Didn’t they have better things to do? ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/7 "2018-03-22T21:17:19Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > I never watched it. Those who did, what did you think? Did he come off as a good businessman, an effective boss, good at motivating people and getting stuff done? I thought so. I found the show entertaining and it certainly pushed people to the limit for management skills and creativity. Bill Rancic certainly made out like a bandit when he won. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/8 "2018-03-22T21:21:34Z")
Thread relocated from IMHO to Cafe Society. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/9 "2018-03-22T21:31:15Z")
Honest truth here, had no idea he would ever run for President. We laughed at him. They played trumpets when he came down the escalator like he was royalty. It was hilarious. I remember telling my wife to remember that he is a failed businessman and he would actually do \*worse \*than most of the people on this show. He came off as a buffoon. My wife and I ended up skipping almost everything with him because we just enjoyed watching the people do the tasks. He made ridiculous decisions in the board room. No excuses, even if they were legit. He literally held the contestants to higher standards than he does himself as President. Absolute perfection from them. [Listen to Penn Jilette talk about his time with him.](http://www.businessinsider.com/penn-jillette-reveals-what-it-was-like-to-work-with-donald-trump-2016-8) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/10 "2018-03-22T21:35:20Z")
The show pushed those “celebrities” with rich and/or influential friends to buy their way to the top. Working your ass off, no matter how effectively, didn’t count worth shit if someone else on the show had friends with deep pockets to contribute big bucks to the show(while taking the tax breaks for charitable contributions, of course). Of course in real life it just doesn’t happen like that(legally, that is). ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/11 "2018-03-22T21:37:00Z")
BTW, his “boardroom”? It was a reworked set from the movie _Network_. He wasn’t big enough at the time to have anything like that for his own. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/12 "2018-03-22T21:45:12Z")
From Fox, no less: [A list of how (un)successful his non-celebrity picks turned out to be.](http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/09/30/trump-sure-pick-em-apprentice-winners-sorry-track-record.html) ---
**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/13 "2018-03-23T10:47:39Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > I watched 2 or 3 seasons of Celebrity Apprentice. It was an entertaining trainwreck but I found Trump’s decisions at the end of each show to be annoying to infuriating. He was clearly choosing the biggest idiot to stay, for ratings, and in no way based on actual talent or business acumen. There’s no way I came away from the show thinking Donald Trump was a good businessman. He was a creepy showman. > > I actually liked Don Jr and Ivanka on the show. They seemed level-headed (at the time!) I’d catch an episode here and there and came away with similar thoughts. I don’t think I’d call him a creepy showman, though – he was much more a buffoon. Honestly, Don Jr. and Ivanka seemed to be the only voices of any sort of reason. Occasionally one of them would say something and I’d think _And you’re the offspring of…HIM?!?_ ---
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/14 "2018-03-23T12:07:50Z")
I kind of enjoyed the regular Apprentice. But one thing that always irritated me is that he would punish risk-taking. It was so long ago that I can’t think of any specific examples. But he would try to find somebody on the losing team who had some novel or creative idea and berate them and probably fire them. I am not talking about doing something stupid, just something different but reasonable. If your team lost, even by $1, you better not have been the one who suggested doing anything remarkable. But Omarosa was always portrayed as being uncooperative and incompetent and she would be kept until near the end. The Celebrity Apprentice was just dumb. They would have the celebrities do a task, the celebrities would get into fights with their teammates about doing the task. But the actual task did not count. All that counted was getting their rich friends to allegedly buy stuff that they did not need and would never use for absurd amounts of money, like thousand dollar hamburgers. The rich friends did not even show up, they sent messengers with a check to pick up the hamburger (and probably throw it away). I watched Celebrity Apprentice for a few rounds hoping that eventually someone would say “Run a pizza parlor? Let’s not waste our time. I’ll run down to the Piggly Wiggly and get a few frozen pizzas. You all just get on the phones and call your friends.” It never happened. I remember when Lyle Lovett, who at the time was married to Julia Roberts, was a contestant. His team lost and Trump berated him for not calling his wife’s rich Hollywood friends. Lyle tried to explain that he had an agreement with his wife that they wouldn’t abuse each other’s fame and that he wasn’t going to risk his marriage. Trump was having none of that. I also remember one of the final rounds where the two finalists were planning some kind of show business event. Trump arrived in his limo to check on the progress of one of the contestants. But there was some kind of manufactured crisis in progress so the contestant sent an assistant to meet Trump’s limo. In the boardroom, Trump really tore into him about that. How dare he not be there to meet Trump personally! ---
**Author:** ![Omega\_Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7c8e57/32.png) [@Omega\_Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omega_Glory)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/15 "2018-03-23T14:00:38Z")
He was entertaining because he created drama. I didn’t have enough information to judge him as a businessman. As someone else said, it was clear that he found contrived reasons to keep certain people who deserved to be fired. Which is a good reality show practice and bad for running a real company. His boardroom scenes were train wrecks, and that’s what I tuned in for. The only moments that stand out for me are when he made Rudy, from the Cosby Show, cry because she didn’t call Billy Cosby in a fundraising task, and the time a team was docked for an ad that described a hotel as discreet. Trump and team thought it should’ve been spelled discrete. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/16 "2018-03-23T20:55:46Z")
It was entertaining for a few seasons. I agree with those who’ve said he dowsn’t necessarily come off as a great businessman, but he was good at playing up the drama in any given situation. I didn’t begin having a negative opinion of him until the first (I think) season of the celebrity version. The teams were tasked with selling lemonade. One team busted their asses to actually sell lemonade at a fair price to ordinary passers-by, and did a pretty decent job of it. The other team came up with the idea of calling all their rich celebrity friends to come and buy lemonade for $1000 a glass or somthing, and they won the challenge. Trump asked the captain of the losing team (don’t recall who it was) if they’d though of doing that, and he or she said something like, “We figured that would be cheating. We just wanted to make an honest buck.” Trump replied, “That’s why you lost. You’re fired.” And I thought, what an entitled asshole. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/17 "2018-03-24T01:56:17Z")
> [@Alley\_Dweller](#): > > I remember when Lyle Lovett, who at the time was married to Julia Roberts, was a contestant. His team lost and Trump berated him for not calling his wife’s rich Hollywood friends. Lyle tried to explain that he had an agreement with his wife that they wouldn’t abuse each other’s fame and that he wasn’t going to risk his marriage. Trump was having none of that. I’m suspecting that, if it’s Lovett you’re remembering, he wasn’t married to Julia Roberts when he was on the show. He and Roberts were married from 1993 to 1995; he’s been in a relationship with [April Kimble](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2525268/?ref_=nv_sr_1) (who works in Hollywood as a producer and music supervisor) since 1997. Wikipedia says that they married last year, but were engaged for a very long time before that. ---
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/18 "2018-03-24T02:21:09Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > I’m suspecting that, if it’s Lovett you’re remembering, he wasn’t married to Julia Roberts when he was on the show. He and Roberts were married from 1993 to 1995; he’s been in a relationship with [April Kimble](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2525268/?ref_=nv_sr_1) (who works in Hollywood as a producer and music supervisor) since 1997. Wikipedia says that they married last year, but were engaged for a very long time before that. Dang! I can’t even find any evidence he ever was on the Apprentice. Thanks for straightening that out. So let me just say, it was a B-list male celebrity married to an A-list female celebrity. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/19 "2018-03-24T02:36:13Z")
Watched the first episode, decided he was an absolute douche-bag, Ha!, how right I was. ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036/20 "2018-03-24T03:45:46Z")
> [@Alley\_Dweller](#): > > Dang! I can’t even find any evidence he ever was on the Apprentice. Thanks for straightening that out. > > So let me just say, it was a B-list male celebrity married to an A-list female celebrity. You might be thinking of Jesse James, host of the show _Monster Garage_, who was married to Sandra Bullock at the time. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-did-you-think-of-trump-on-the-apprentice/811036.md?page=2)