# What do all of your ex's new SOs have in common?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 20, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847 "2007-05-20T21:03:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/61 "2007-05-25T21:55:24Z")

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[QUOTE=VCO3]  
And by the way, the lesson here is that I realized that the type of girl I was attracted to was the clean, virginal girl-next-door.  
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😕

:: shakes head ::

Whoa. My eyes are tired. I thought you said you were attracted to _“clean vaginal”_ girls next door.

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**Author:** ![Litoris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@Litoris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Litoris)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2007, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/62 "2007-05-25T21:56:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Borgia]  
So it’s cool that he beats up women, as long as they’re sluts that don’t dress well and have problems. 😕  
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I don’t know how you got this from what I said, but ok… 😕

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/63 "2007-05-26T00:57:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Litoris]  
I don’t know how you got this from what I said, but ok… 😕  
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Well, he’s “the love of your life” and he likes to beat on women. I’m just trying to get my head around that. Men who hit women are scum. It doesn’t matter what positive qualities they have–most abusers are very charming–or what their upbringing was like. There’s no excuse for that shit.

I read your other thread and I understand you’ve been through some pretty bad stuff yourself. I didn’t mean to come off snarky, and I apologize if I did. I just can’t stand men who abuse women and I can’t understand women who apologize or rationalize their behavior.

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/64 "2007-05-26T01:26:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Borgia]  
Well, he’s “the love of your life” and he likes to beat on women. I’m just trying to get my head around that. Men who hit women are scum. It doesn’t matter what positive qualities they have–most abusers are very charming–or what their upbringing was like. There’s no excuse for that shit.

I read your other thread and I understand you’ve been through some pretty bad stuff yourself. I didn’t mean to come off snarky, and I apologize if I did. I just can’t stand men who abuse women and I can’t understand women who apologize or rationalize their behavior.  
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No, the **VIE** (love of her life) dates mainstream golddiggers.  
It’s her daughter’s dad who beats up women, but only the ones who _let_ him.

I, too, was surprised when I read the thread about **Litoris** ’ mom that she would excuse this behavior but, as I mentioned before, I’ve been accused on this board of thinking I know everything about a situation when I don’t, or painting with a broad brush, so I tried to let this go in the “don’t understand; never will” column.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/65 "2007-05-26T06:05:12Z")

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> [@lorene](#):
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> No, the VIE (love of her life) dates mainstream golddiggers.  
> It’s her daughter’s dad who beats up women, but only the ones who let him.

I thought it was the same person. If not, never mind.

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**Author:** ![DellieM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@DellieM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DellieM)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/66 "2007-05-27T05:52:16Z")

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We banged the same guy.

Alright seriously - we’all short-arses, we all have big teeth and are huge talkers.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/67 "2007-05-27T07:33:48Z")

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They’re taller and older than I am and they’re less scrupulous in general. The most glaring exceptions to all three are female.

And then there’s the mainstream/WASPy/boring/taller/older/less scrupulous guy who won the last one back from me by stealing my date ideas.

> [@PastAllReason](#):
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> Thanks for the explanation, DiosaBellissima. It’s a look that I haven’t particularly taken note of. Except maybe on Joan Crawford.

I think it’s a safe bet that cholas are less common in Western Canada than southern California. Hell, now that I think about it I’ve dated a chola–penciled-on eyebrows, Converse, flannel shirts, gold jewelry with her name on it, pretty much the whole thing except for the gang and barrio part.

> [@VCO3](#):
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> And by the way, the lesson here is that I realized that the type of girl I was attracted to was the clean, virginal girl-next-door, BUT I wanted one that was into things that clean, virginal girls-next-door weren’t usually into (like bohemian music, film, and culture), so I ended up with clean, virginal girls-next-door who were going through their freak phase where they wanted to live dangerously, but then quickly reverted to clean, virginial girls-next-door as soon as they got through the phase.

I’ve (mostly) had the same problem.

> [@WhyNot](#):
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> But I can see why they might seem a peaceful, temporary diversion after dating my argumentative, opinionated self!

Well, I wouldn’t mind if some of these guys sent their argumentative, opinionated girlfriends over to me. I’m a feminist and it pisses me off when girls habitually agree with me for no reason. That’s a big part of why I’ve been single for so long, actually.

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**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/68 "2007-05-27T18:33:42Z")

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What about when they agree with you because they actually, you know, agree with you? 😃

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/69 "2007-05-27T20:06:32Z")

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That’s all nice and sweet, but nobody really agrees with any one other person 100% of the time.

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**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/70 "2007-05-27T20:35:13Z")

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[QUOTE=fetus]  
That’s all nice and sweet, but nobody really agrees with any one other person 100% of the time.  
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I guess it’s official that I can’t just toss off a non-serious remark, even with a smiley at the end of it. Not having anything to do with you in particular, of course, but that’s the fourth time in as many days I’ve said something I thought was flippant and had it apparently taken seriously.

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**Author:** ![Litoris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@Litoris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Litoris)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/71 "2007-05-27T21:38:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Borgia]  
Well, he’s “the love of your life” and he likes to beat on women. I’m just trying to get my head around that. Men who hit women are scum. It doesn’t matter what positive qualities they have–most abusers are very charming–or what their upbringing was like. There’s no excuse for that shit.

I read your other thread and I understand you’ve been through some pretty bad stuff yourself. I didn’t mean to come off snarky, and I apologize if I did. I just can’t stand men who abuse women and I can’t understand women who apologize or rationalize their behavior.  
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It’s ok – the abusive one is **not** the love of my life. But he is a good friend. I neither understand nor rationalise his behviour – I walked out on him and took our (then-2 year old) daughter with me. Before I left him, I had him arrested and in WA state, an arrest for domestic violence requires a minimum amount of counseling for the abuser. I did my best to try to get him help, even though I knew I was leaving for good.

It is true, too many women do justify and make excuses for that shit. I don’t and never did. At one point, I honestly was shocked that he didn’t beat me up in public – someone asked why I was walking funny and I told them (with him standing beside me) “Charlie\* threw me against the wall last night while we were fighting and broke my toe” When he confronted me about it later, I told him that I was _not_ going to lie about it and cover it up for him. It was a nice shock treatment…for about a week then the abuse started again. I tried, but I finally had to take my own advice and realise that the only person over whom I have control is _me_. I walked away and haven’t looked back since 🙂

Because he does have redeeming qualities as a person, I sincerely hope everyday that he will face down his demons and start recognising his red flags. I honestly want him to have a good life – people are not “good” or “evil” they just make bad decisions sometimes. A person can do a bad thing but still be a good person. We might disagree on this, but ya know what? That’s how life works.

Oh, and while it did come across as a bit snarky…this is teh intarwebs – I don’t carry grudges in real life, why the heck would I here? Better to ask for clarity than live in ignorance, right?

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**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/72 "2007-05-27T22:08:06Z")

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Hmmm, if I’m allowed to work backwards with this one, with my one and only ex-SO, it seems all her previous ex’s were either sexually inept or got her pregnant and then they split up.

With me, she got both!

:smack:

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/73 "2007-05-28T01:31:06Z")

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[QUOTE=DiosaBellissima]  
Chola refers to a Hispanic gangster girl. I had plenty of friends in high school that lovingly referred to themselves as cholas. From Urban Dictionary…  
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My Peruvian fiancée occassionally uses the word “chola” and, from her corner of the globe, it seems to simply mean “trashy”, “whorish” or “low class” rather than gangster-tough. Not that classes of people don’t co-opt words and turn them into a badge of honor, but her definition made your OP that much more amusing to me.

Try as I might, I can’t think of a common thread between my exs’ new beaus.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/74 "2007-05-28T03:34:22Z")

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They have not much in common:  
GF#1: Now married to a guy with similar nerdy tastes in books and stuff as I have (and she has), but who is very quiet and reserved (she and I are both super-argumentative). He’s also super-seriously Jewish (as is she) (at least now)  
GF#2: Married to a guy who’s actually quite a bit like me. I like him a lot. A bit more into the ren-faire/folk singing side of nerddom than I am  
GF#3: After me, she dated an abusive and controlling Indian guy. Then she broke up with him. Then we lost touch  
GF#6: After me, she dated a weak-willed goth guy who she more or less ran over, then a freaky arrogant pervy Jewish guy, and is now married to a childhood friend of hers who I have only met briefly, but seems totally unlike me in all ways  
GF#7: Last I heard, now dating an Indian guy I’ve never met

So we’ve got a few nerds, a few Jews, and a few guys from India.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/75 "2007-05-28T20:11:24Z")

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> [@Telperien](#):
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> I guess it’s official that I can’t just toss off a non-serious remark, even with a smiley at the end of it. Not having anything to do with you in particular, of course, but that’s the fourth time in as many days I’ve said something I thought was flippant and had it apparently taken seriously.

If it makes you feel better, that happens to me all the time IRL!

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**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/76 "2007-05-28T20:14:20Z")

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[QUOTE=fetus]  
If it makes you feel better, that happens to me all the time IRL!  
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It helps a little, yes.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/77 "2007-05-28T22:04:53Z")

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[QUOTE=MaxTheVool]

So we’ve got a few nerds, a few Jews, and a few guys from India.  
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Oh! Oh! OH! Mr. Kotter! Pick me!

I’ve got the common theme on this one: all groups to whom education is culturally important.

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**Author:** ![Selkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Selkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Selkie)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-all-of-your-exs-new-sos-have-in-common/404847/78 "2007-05-28T22:58:42Z")

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The next one is always proclaimed to be “The One”, and The One always has a health issue or disability that limits her physical mobility. Every time. Over multiple exes. Apparently I was insufficiently disabled! 😃

Seriously, the pattern does make me wonder whether they cared about me _in spite of_ my physical limitations, as I’d always (naively?) believed - or in part _because of_ them, which is too depressing to contemplate.

Now that the doctors have figured out what was “wrong” with me (well, wrong with my body - my mind is another story! 😛 ), I wonder whether the same will be true of my next ex. Stay tuned…

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