# What do Catholics think of protestant communion?

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**Created:** [June 23, 2014, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-catholics-think-of-protestant-communion/691400 "2014-06-23T00:52:34Z")\
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> [@UDS](#):
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> The problem is likely not with the attitudes or actions of your friends in the bricks-and-mortar college; it’s with the Catholics, and their eucharistic understanding.

FWIW, it’s not just Catholics who have a problem with ecumenical services. The Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, in particular, has [a somewhat tortured relationship](http://www.religionnews.com/2013/02/11/missouri-synod-president-apologizes-for-role-in-newtown-debacle/) with other Christian denominations (although other branches like the ELCA are more laid back.)

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-catholics-think-of-protestant-communion/691400/22 "2014-06-23T18:57:32Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Specially the Jewish ones, such as St Solomon (King), St David (King), St Jeremy (Prophet), St Esther (Queen)…

This is not common, though, at least in the United States. Not that it’s demonstrative of truth, but googling for information on, say, Saint David, turns up a lot more about a Welsh guy than a Hebrew one.

The only “weird” saints that I’m aware of are saints like Michael, the archangel. That is, the guy isn’t even human.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2014, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-catholics-think-of-protestant-communion/691400/23 "2014-06-23T19:17:19Z")

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> [@Mdcastle](#):
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> What do Catholics thinks occurs during protestant communion? Does transubstantiation still occur even though protestants don’t acknowledge it, and would it make a difference if it were wine or grape juice (which all the churches I’ve been involved with have used.) Or is transubstantiation limited to Catholic communion and the protestants are only doing it symbolically.

“Protestant” is a very broad brush. Many, probably most, Protestant denominations believe that communion, in their church, is a commemorative act, and that no miraculous transformation of bread and wine takes place. Catholics (and Orthodox, and most Anglicans) would agree with them. Without apostolic succession, the proper form of consecration, and intent, there can be no Eucharist as Catholics understand the Eucharist.

Then there are the Lutherans. From “_FROM CONFLICT TO COMMUNION: Lutheran-Catholic Common Commemoration of the Reformation in 2017_,” a document published by the Lutheran-Roman Catholic Commission on Unity, a sort of joint commission with the approval and participation of both denominations:

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> The question of the reality of the presence of Jesus Christ in the Lord’s Supper is not a matter of controversy between Catholics and Lutherans.

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> Lutherans and Catholics can together affirm the real presence of Jesus Christ in the Lord’s Supper.

Of course there are still disagreements about form, and about ordination and apostolic succession, but in essence Lutherans and Catholics agree about the Real Presence of God in the Eucharist.

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It’s hard to say anything definitive about what Anglicans/Episcopalians believe. As Hector St Clare said, they have a relatively low view of church authority and do not require much in terms of doctrine beyond the historic creeds of the church. I have known Anglo-Catholics who venerate Mary and other patron saints, and on the other hand, very charismatic Anglicans who speak in tongues and hold faith healing services. Not that those two practices are mutually exclusive.

I’m more of a Real Presence guy than an Transubstantiationalist, but Anglicanism (by design) is a big tent.

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