# What do Gazan civilians have to do to qualify for greater support from the DNC? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 20, 2025, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-gazan-civilians-have-to-do-to-qualify-for-greater-support-from-the-dnc/1023242 "2025-09-20T22:33:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 33
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-gazan-civilians-have-to-do-to-qualify-for-greater-support-from-the-dnc/1023242/33 "2025-09-22T00:55:11Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > If it was that unanimous it would be a no brainer, but it isn’t. …it was trending this way before the election. And after it the polling has been consistent and, as Israel accelerates its genocidal behaviour both in Gaza and the West Bank, the polling will only get worse for them. We are talking about 77% of Democrats believing a genocide is taking place. Not only that: but half of US voters think the same. Six out of 10 voters oppose Washington sending more military aid to Israel. It really _should_ be a no-brainer. That it won’t be is an _indictment_ on Democrat leadership who, not just here, but in ALL areas, are simply failing to meet the moment. The establishment are out of touch with the base. > [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > You’re assuming everyone in the democratic party views the people of Gaza as innocent civilians. Most of them _are_. [47% of Palestinians](https://www.npr.org/2023/10/19/1206479861/israel-gaza-hamas-children-population-war-palestinians) in Gaza are under the age of 18. They are _children_. NONE of them voted for Hamas in 2006. Most weren’t even born then. And we don’t use opinion polls to determine whether people should be eligible to be genocided or not. > [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Israel also takes a lot of efforts to avoid civilian casualties believe it or not. This simply _isn’t the case_. Ammnesty International have called this a genocide. As have Human Rights Watch. The UN Special Committee. And the the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory. The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention. Along with a broad consensus of most genocide scholars. There is currently a case at the International Court of Justice accusing Israel of committing genocide and the the case was strong enough the court ordered a number of provisional measures in order to _prevent_ genocide. If Israel actually _were_ taking a lot of effort to avoid civilian casualties, then all of these independent organisations and individuals wouldn’t have been able to make their cases. Instead we have dossiers of evidence, hundreds and hundreds of pages of evidence, that show this isn’t the case. I summarise the evidence in this post in another thread. I’m happy to address this further with you in that thread if you want. > [@Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/5199): > > …how much research did you do into the New Zealaind Israeli Institute before you decided to post this? Or the author or the article, Greg Bouwer? Because I’m familiar with both. If you want to join the institute you can, here. You don’t even need to donate. And Bouwer is the type of person who mistakes editorial photos for headlines, from this media council complaint: One of the directors of the Institute openly posts in support of transphobes, as do other signifcant contributors, nota… > [@duality72](#): > > As deeply flawed as Israel’s actions are, the Palestinian “side” has significant flaws, as well, that makes political support in the US just as problematic to American ideals. I think characterising what Israel has done here, including _deliberately engineering a famine_ that has killed hundreds so far and will kill thousands by the time its all over, as merely “deeply flawed” demonstrates the real problem with “American ideals.” We wouldn’t call what Hamas did on October the 7th just “deeply flawed.” It was an atrocity. A warcrime. Almost everyone, including me, thinks those responsible should be bought to justice. We shouldn’t be afraid to just call it what it is. > [@Odesio](#): > > I hate to say it, but right now the DNC has other priorities that are more pressing than Gaza. But the Democrat establishment/leadership can’t both have it both ways. Israel both can’t be their “most important ally” that gets unconditional support, funding and weapons AND “I’m sorry, we have other priorities more pressing than stopping the slaughter of people with our bombs.” If they have other priorities then end the support, end the funding, stop the weapons. Its what they should have done when they had power. And now that they are out of power, and allegedly have “other priorities” according to you, its what they should be pledging to do _now_ if reelected. Because otherwise, one would have to concede that Gaza actually IS a priority. Just not in a way that will end well for the Palestinians in Gaza. > [@Cheesesteak](#): > > Honestly, what they have to is not expect support from the people of this country. We suck. This isn’t about the DNC, it’s about the American People. We, as a whole, don’t care about the people of Gaza. > > There’s an extremely vocal minority that does care. Instead of striving to elect a normal human with the capacity for human empathy as President, this vocal minority said that the normal person wasn’t loud enough about being anti-genocide. So, instead of a normal human who could be convinced to support Gaza, we have an inhuman monster who would turn Chicago into the next Gaza if he could make money off of it. > > In 3 years, when _maybe_ we have a normal human back as President, they’ll be too busy putting us back together to worry about fixing Gaza. The danger of, as you say, “not caring about the people of Gaza,” is that eventually what happened to them is going to happen to you. That’s what creeping authoritarianism is. Its why people have been yelling “abolish ICE.” “Defund the police.” “Stop cop cities.” They could see what was coming and tried to stop it. And what that eventually means if that you get the government you deserve. America is funding this genocide. They are providing the bombs that are killing the Palestinians in Gaza. They are turning a blind eye to the ethnic cleansing in the West Bank. This isn’t just what happened under the Republicans. It was the Democrats as well. That “vocal minority of people” weren’t complaining that “the normal person wasn’t loud enough about being anti-genocide.” They were protesting the fact that the _President of the United States_ was funding and supporting that genocide. That was a perfectly valid thing for them to do. It’s what one would expect people to do in a democracy. The people that protested the genocide no matter _who_ the President was _were not responsible for the election result._ I think the result was a fair reflection of what America (and much of the rest of the world) has become. If you want to turn that around: people need to _start caring again._ --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-gazan-civilians-have-to-do-to-qualify-for-greater-support-from-the-dnc/1023242)._