# what do I do about racist ethnic mods on major forums?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 10, 2016, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698 "2016-02-10T11:01:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698/41 "2016-02-14T12:02:56Z")

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> [@Civilrighte](#):
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> I find it hard to feel who’s a Jew and whos white!

Maybe they could be identified in some manner, with, like a tattoo or something?

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**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698/42 "2016-02-14T12:12:34Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Is Nazi Hindu really a thing?

[Oh God yes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savitri_Devi):

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> Savitri Devi […] was a proponent of Hinduism and Nazism, synthesizing the two, proclaiming Adolf Hitler to have been sent by Providence, much like an avatar of the Hindu god Vishnu. She believed Hitler was a sacrifice for humanity which would lead to the end of the Kali Yuga induced by who she felt were the powers of evil, the Jews.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698/43 "2016-02-14T14:21:51Z")

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> [@Civilrighte](#):
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> I find it hard to feel who’s a Jew and whos white!

What possible difference does it make? This all sounds like a cut scene from Borat.

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**Author:** ![PlaceboTarget](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/placebotarget/32/1073_2.png) [@PlaceboTarget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlaceboTarget)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698/44 "2016-02-14T15:00:45Z")

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> [@Civilrighte](#):
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> Skin color aside, most North Indians have similar face shapes to South Indians. The face shapes are as varied as among Europeans.

I can see you focus solely on physical traits. In fact, you only take into consideration complexion and face type. I’m afraid there are a host of other aspects that you should consider as well so that you can make an informed/educated judgement or decision.

Now, I’ve traveled a thousand times through Turkey and I know for a fact that ethnically the Turkish are a very heterogeneous population. In contrast, Indians make a way more homogeneous population and I wonder why one would want to discriminate between North and South Indians.

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**Author:** ![sevenwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@sevenwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sevenwood)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698/45 "2016-02-14T15:10:52Z")

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> [@PlaceboTarget](#):
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> I wonder why one would want to discriminate between North and South Indians.

Well, you’ve got to start _ **somewhere** _…

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**Author:** ![Civilrighte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/fbc32d/32.png) [@Civilrighte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civilrighte)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698/46 "2016-02-14T22:36:26Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> Care to answer these two simple questions so that we might have a hint of what you’re talking about?
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> Or are you simply going to ignore inconvenient questions?

1. Colorism: I looked back at 2011 and I disliked how they debuted two white-skinned bands, with one band member being half-south-indian (so not only did they know about South Indians, they tokened a white skinned one!). A lot of second generation gay South Indians consider North Indians to be ugly.

2. Pro-Pakistani Racism: Just why are there so many Pakistanis in the music and fashion industries? They are neither a particularly talented ethnicity (like blacks) or pretty ethnicitiy (like Asians).

3. It creates a Pakistani-centric culture that alienates South Indians and Hindus. Not only are Pakistanis very racist, but most Indians want nothing to do with them.

1D essentially creates a pro-pakistani, Pro-Muslim community that’s impossible for a South Indian Hindu to participate in.

1. It’s pushing a positive image of Pakistanis (I think) despite nothing be done for any other ethnic group. The average stereotypes of British Pakistanis include: chavvy, ugly, conservative, muslim, low-income, uneducated, etc…

2. It represents a broader movement to whitewash Pakistanis and Muslims, while overlooking South Indians and Hindus. Why is nothing being done to help South Indian Hindus against Pakistanis, in the same way Pakistanis are getting serious positive discrimination?

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**Author:** ![Civilrighte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/fbc32d/32.png) [@Civilrighte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civilrighte)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698/47 "2016-02-14T22:42:02Z")

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> [@Steken](#):
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> [Oh God yes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savitri_Devi):

Jews? Really?

Most Nazi Hindus I know of, aim their racism at Pakistanis. Those that include Jews, tend to include anything that isn’t of Indian origin!

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698/48 "2016-02-14T22:43:09Z")

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So, when did you break up with your Pakistani boyfriend? Did he cheat on you?

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**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698/49 "2016-02-14T23:19:52Z")

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This Pakistani domination of the fashion industry could be bigger than the Trilateral Commission. The repercussions are daunting.

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**Author:** ![BrianJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/54ee81/32.png) [@BrianJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrianJ)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698/50 "2016-02-15T00:08:19Z")

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> [@Civilrighte](#):
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> 1. Colorism: I looked back at 2011 and I disliked how they debuted two white-skinned bands, with one band member being half-south-indian (so not only did they know about South Indians, they tokened a white skinned one!). A lot of second generation gay South Indians consider North Indians to be ugly.

Who are ‘they’? Pakistanis? What do you mean they know about south Indians? Know what about them?

I have no idea how bands are formed. My understanding was that a bunch of talented perfoirmers get together and form a band, due to common interests in music style etc.

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> 1. Pro-Pakistani Racism: Just why are there so many Pakistanis in the music and fashion industries? They are neither a particularly talented ethnicity (like blacks) or pretty ethnicitiy (like Asians).

Music and fashion industry where? In Pakistan? In India? Britain? Also you are mixing up race, ethnicity and religion. It’s very confusing.

Religions can contain members of any race. Jew, for instance, is not a race. It may be an ethnicity and certainly is a religion. You say in one post that you don’t know the difference between ‘white’ and ‘jew’ as far as looks go. That’s because there is no difference, assuming the Jews in question are also white skinned.

You are also making absurd sweeping generalizations. ‘Blacks’ aren’t talented and ‘Asians (you mean East Asians?)’ aren’t ‘pretty’… necessarily. The media tends to show exceptional people of any ethnic group. Exceptional people are in the vast minority of any population you care to identify.

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> 1. It creates a Pakistani-centric culture that alienates South Indians and Hindus. Not only are Pakistanis very racist, but most Indians want nothing to do with them.

Where? In India? Pakistan? Britain? Again, Hindu describes an ethnic group or adherents of a religion? Its like me saying ‘Alaskans or Christians’. It makes no sense.

So… you are saying Pakistanis and Indians are racist towards each other then? I suspect most on this board are like me in that they don’t know the difference between south Indians and north Indians.

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> 1D essentially creates a pro-pakistani, Pro-Muslim community that’s impossible for a South Indian Hindu to participate in.

Again, where? In India? Pakistan? Britain? What’s stopping the South Indian community from being a community?

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> 1. It’s pushing a positive image of Pakistanis (I think) despite nothing be done for any other ethnic group. The average stereotypes of British Pakistanis include: chavvy, ugly, conservative, muslim, low-income, uneducated, etc…

So you are talking about Britain then? What is the ‘average stereotype’ of South Indians among British people?

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> 1. It represents a broader movement to whitewash Pakistanis and Muslims, while overlooking South Indians and Hindus. Why is nothing being done to help South Indian Hindus against Pakistanis, in the same way Pakistanis are getting serious positive discrimination?

Are Pakistanis being ‘helped’ against Indians in Britain? Really?

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**Author:** ![Civilrighte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/fbc32d/32.png) [@Civilrighte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civilrighte)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698/51 "2016-02-17T14:42:13Z")

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Take thefp fashion industry. One of the major reasons there is so much racism against blacks is because people are less likely to buy from black models.

Why are they adding Pakistani models then? Are Pakistanis more likely to become models or something? Pakistanis are probably the most hated ethnic group and Pakistanis aren’t exactly considered pretty or sexy.

Same goes to the music industry. There wouldn’t be a single Pakistani in the media if one hadn’t been tokened in an all-white banned, heavily manufactured, and then heavily promoted/pushed.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698/52 "2016-02-17T14:52:26Z")

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I think I speak for everyone - including other British Indians - when I say, “what the fuck?”

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698/53 "2016-02-17T15:34:38Z")

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OP thinks Pakistanis are ugly and smell bad. They may also have cooties.

OP feels that Pakistanis should not be visible in fashion shows or music videos because of these feelings.

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**Author:** ![Civilrighte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/fbc32d/32.png) [@Civilrighte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civilrighte)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698/54 "2016-02-17T16:27:36Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I think I speak for everyone - including other British Indians - when I say, “what the fuck?”

A lot of, if not most, British Indians do not consider Pakistanis to be “Indian”. So I’m afraid you can’t speak on behalf of British Indians.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698/55 "2016-02-28T18:52:42Z")

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> [@Civilrighte](#):
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> Since they take my privileged away or IP block me, I’m often left fiddiling about trying to create a new account.

Yeah, if, for some unknown reason, you end up banned here, I’d advise you not to do what I just quoted you as saying. The mods here don’t like it when someone creates a new account.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-i-do-about-racist-ethnic-mods-on-major-forums/745698/56 "2016-02-29T15:31:09Z")

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> [@Civilrighte](#):
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> A lot of, if not most, British Indians do not consider Pakistanis to be “Indian”. So I’m afraid you can’t speak on behalf of British Indians.

I’m not Pakistani. I am not sure what other assumption you may have been intending to convey if not that.

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