# What do Militant Islamism and Fox News have in common? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 15, 2015, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717 "2015-02-15T14:13:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![William\_Hanley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9a28c/32.png) [@William\_Hanley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/William_Hanley)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/1 "2015-02-15T14:13:36Z")
They “radicalize” the ignorant! ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/2 "2015-02-15T15:03:11Z")
Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/3 "2015-02-15T15:20:04Z")
The women on fox news are more attractive. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/4 "2015-02-15T15:28:47Z")
They’re both controlled by Rubert bin-Muhammed Murdoch. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/5 "2015-02-15T15:33:53Z")
Off to IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/6 "2015-02-15T15:41:13Z")
It’s always been profitable to tell people that they have been wronged and should be outraged. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/7 "2015-02-15T18:13:33Z")
\*\*What do Militant Islamism and Fox News have in common? \*\*They both display the puzzled-dog-sideways-head look when Ozzy speaks. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/8 "2015-02-15T18:23:17Z")
When attempting to advance their political agenda, truth/reality plays a minimal role in how they decide to frame things. ---
**Author:** ![Loch\_Raven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/779978/32.png) [@Loch\_Raven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loch_Raven)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/9 "2015-02-15T19:07:54Z")
Really, this is pretty rude. OK, you don’t like Fox, I get it, but Fox doesn’t send out people loaded with explosives expressly to kill Jews and Americans, nor does Fox mutilate women’s genitals or encourage wife beating (yeah, that’s in the Koran). Maybe people on this board need to step back and rethink their knee-jerk hatred of conservatives. Liberals are always gabbing on about how they tolerate everyone and welcome diversity, but they never speak the second part of their sentence…“UNLESS YOU’RE CONSERVATIVE.” You’re not making your ideology look very attractive here. OK, let the flaming, snarking, and hating begin! ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/10 "2015-02-15T19:13:21Z")
> [@Loch\_Raven](#): > > Really, this is pretty rude. OK, you don’t like Fox, I get it, but Fox doesn’t send out people loaded with explosives expressly to kill Jews and Americans, nor does Fox mutilate women’s genitals or encourage wife beating (yeah, that’s in the Koran). > > Maybe people on this board need to step back and rethink their knee-jerk hatred of conservatives. Liberals are always gabbing on about how they tolerate everyone and welcome diversity, but they never speak the second part of their sentence…“UNLESS YOU’RE CONSERVATIVE.” You’re not making your ideology look very attractive here. > > OK, let the flaming, snarking, and hating begin! Hard to say which post is dumber the Op or this one. Both use broad brushes and the over-the-top generalizations. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/11 "2015-02-15T19:17:21Z")
> [@Loch\_Raven](#): > > Really, this is pretty rude. OK, you don’t like Fox, I get it, but Fox doesn’t send out people loaded with explosives expressly to kill Jews and Americans, nor does Fox mutilate women’s genitals or encourage wife beating (yeah, that’s in the Koran). “Spare the rod and spoil the child” is in the Bible. Does that mean Christianity encourages child abuse? Also, Fox does whip up hatred, and that’s not entirely unrelated to the thousands of deaths in Iraq and Syria. Moreover, the Koran is a medieval document, and can hardly be held responsible for how it’s used in 2015. Nor is there a central authority for Islam, or even Militant Islamism, that we can point to. So Islam doesn’t “send out people loaded with explosives expressly to kill Jews and Americans.” Influential leaders do, but they’re not acting in concert and they have limited authority. The people they have killed are just as dead, of course, so I’m not defending them, but it’s not like the Pope of Islam is out there decreeing doctrine. Plus, I was circumsized right there in America, which is religiously inspired genital mutilation. Apples to oranges when compared to the horror that is FGM, I know, but I’m just saying that your vilification isn’t very nuanced when compared to reality, and you’re letting Fox off rather easily. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/12 "2015-02-15T19:53:06Z")
It’s the kind of thread liberals would start to marginalize a group whose ideas they don’t share. ---
**Author:** ![William\_Hanley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9a28c/32.png) [@William\_Hanley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/William_Hanley)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/13 "2015-02-15T22:03:45Z")
… or an epistemologist! ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/14 "2015-02-15T22:33:04Z")
Both dislike the French. Obama polls badly with both groups’ core demographics. Both are strongly emotional when talking about the American military. Both groups’ members tend to be in a religion that prominently features Jesus. Both supported invading Iraq. Both have supported attacks against Assad’s regime. Neither express strong concern for the well being of the Kardashians. Neither think Nancy Pelosi has any business in government. Neither have used the phrase “I’m going to Disneyland” to describe their plans after gaining world domination. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/15 "2015-02-15T22:37:51Z")
> [@Loch\_Raven](#): > > OK, let the flaming, snarking, and hating begin! I proceeded straight to snark.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Loch\_Raven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/779978/32.png) [@Loch\_Raven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loch_Raven)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/16 "2015-02-16T01:32:30Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > “Spare the rod and spoil the child” is in the Bible. Does that mean Christianity encourages child abuse? > > …Moreover, the Koran is a medieval document, and can hardly be held responsible for how it’s used in 2015 Well, the Old Testament (where the proverb comes from) is a good deal older than the Koran, so I don’t think Christianity should be held responsible for that, either. I personally don’t watch Fox, but I also don’t care for Islam. Yes, I did paint liberals with a broad brush, but by the same token, isn’t that exactly what they do with conservatives? At least IME in the time I’ve been lurking/posting here, the nastiness from liberals is much more venomous than anything that’s coming from the conservatives. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/17 "2015-02-16T02:07:03Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > The women on fox news are more attractive. How could you tell? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/18 "2015-02-16T02:18:42Z")
> [@Loch\_Raven](#): > > Well, the Old Testament (where the proverb comes from) is a good deal older than the Koran, so I don’t think Christianity should be held responsible for that, either. > > I personally don’t watch Fox, but I also don’t care for Islam. Yes, I did paint liberals with a broad brush, but by the same token, isn’t that exactly what they do with conservatives? At least IME in the time I’ve been lurking/posting here, the nastiness from liberals is much more venomous than anything that’s coming from the conservatives. There can be no stronger venom IMHO that lying to their viewers so as to prevent the government from doing its job. > **[Fox News host: Climate scientists 'fabricated' temperature data](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/feb/13/dana-perino/fox-news-host-climate-scientists-fabricated-temper/)** > > The U.S. Senate may have voted 98-1 that "climate change is real and not a hoax," but the accusation that government sci > [@](#): > > Fox News host Dana Perino joined several of her colleagues this week in casting doubt on the data scientists use to track temperature changes over time. Perino’s comments came on Feb. 9, 2015, as she and her co-hosts on The Five somewhat sarcastically discussed how the fight against Islamic State or ISIS drew attention away from other issues, such as climate change. > > “They’re (the White House) actually kind of lucky that we don’t cover climate change as much as we should,” Perino said. “Because yesterday, it was reported that the temperature readings have been fabricated and it’s all blowing up in their faces.” > > Co-host Kimberly Guilfoyle interjected that it was “fraud science” and Perino said, “Yes, I agree.” > > We have checked this sort of claim before and found it wrong, but some time has passed, and Perino referenced new reporting. So we wanted to fact-check her claim that temperature readings “have been fabricated.” > [@](#): > > Our ruling > > Perino said that disclosures of fabricated temperature readings have upended theories of climate change. The source we believe she relied on, The Telegraph opinion piece, in turn relied on the work of a climate change skeptic and blogger. He told us that he was not challenging the overall trends of global warming, but instead wanted to draw attention to anomalies in the data. > > The researchers we contacted, who have no ties to the government agencies that produce the data Perino questioned, said that while the raw temperature readings are adjusted, the result is a record that more closely matches what has actually taken place. The greater mistake would be to take the raw data as somehow perfect and unblemished. > > The allegations raised by skeptics like the author of The Telegraph item have had no effect on the consensus that the Earth has seen an increase in temperatures over the past 100 years. > > This claim has been debunked before. To continue to repeat it moves it into the realm of the ridiculous. We rate the claim Pants on Fire. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/19 "2015-02-16T02:44:16Z")
They both want to frighten the American public. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717/20 "2015-02-16T03:04:14Z")
Some people who are fan-boys of each occasionally try to shoot innocent people who are minding their own business and are just trying to live their lives? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-militant-islamism-and-fox-news-have-in-common/712717.md?page=2)