# What do the dopers think of the Kate Middleton brouhaha **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 11, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723 "2024-03-11T23:52:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/241 "2024-03-18T17:20:37Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > Now that Google has the Search Image feature, these kinds of fakes aren’t even fun to uncover anymore. To be clear I don’t think anyone is implying that was article was an actually fraud, where fake images were claimed to be real. Its pretty bog standard Daily Mail disinformation where it’s implied the photos go with the story but in fact are totally unrelated. I’m sure you can see examples of it(and much worse besides) in every issue of the Daily Mail. But in the context of this story if definitely adds to the feeling that something is being covered up. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/242 "2024-03-18T17:30:36Z")
Well, I’m pretty indifferent to the monarchy, but this is a nice safe little conspiracy theory, that doesn’t matter for anything, and following it is sort of like reading “cozy murder mysteries”. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/243 "2024-03-18T17:38:40Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > The Malaysian monarchy is headed by the Kebawah Duli Yang Maha Mulia Seri Paduka Baginda Yang di-Pertuan Agong and the Kebawah Duli Yang Maha Mulia Seri Paduka Baginda Raja Permaisuri Agong Who is, for all of that, just one person. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/244 "2024-03-18T17:41:33Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > the fanciest they got was naming themselves High Priests as well as kings. A few civilizations got to the “god-king” stage. > **[God king](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_king)** > > God king, or God-King, is a term for a deified ruler or a pagan deity that is venerated in the guise of a king. In particular, it is used to refer to: ---
**Author:** ![Schnitte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/schnitte/32/9033_2.png) [@Schnitte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schnitte)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/245 "2024-03-18T17:41:48Z")
In case it’s of interest, I’m creating a [spinoff thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/super-injunctions-how-do-those-that-are-subject-to-it-know-about-it/998993) in FQ about an aspect of super injunctions that I find confusing. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/246 "2024-03-18T18:14:36Z")
> [@anny\_m](#): > > I wonder if she’s undergoing treatment for cancer. If so, she may have lost her eyebrows and eyelashes, and her face may be kind of gray and drawn. The Palace has stated her surgery had nothing to do with cancer. Also, not all cancer treatment is the same or has the same effects. And finally, there are other diseases that have treatments that leave you looking less than your best. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/247 "2024-03-18T19:04:52Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > Who is, for all of that, just one person. Two people; I listed the titles of the king and queen. “Permaisuri” derives from Sanskrit _parameśvarī_, ‘supreme lady’. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/248 "2024-03-18T19:36:32Z")
Ah. My bad. I did try to parse that but the effort broke down very quickly, before getting to the completely normal conjunction. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/249 "2024-03-18T20:01:14Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > The inflation of titles comes when you need multiple levels and categories due to numbers of vassals or geographic spread (including conquering a place that has some title of its own that you figure you might as well put somewhere in your tier list) or just needing to make clear that Lord Hill outranks Lord Dale who outranks Lord Trail and you outrank all of them and BTW all of Lady Caisson’s titles are now yours because you married her. Then there are those that turn from being a job rank (dux) to being an inherited title (duke) and yes those take time to drift. Funnily enough I watched a video on a similar topic regarding the title Prince of Wales. Originally it meant “Prince” as in "the Roman title “Princeps” and was taken by a “Petty King” who conquered a bunch of Wales and wanted a title that showed that he wasn’t _yet another king_ or even a _high_ king, but something higher on the totem pole - and so he borrowed a title from Rome. Eventually when the English monarchy took over Wales, they started giving the title to a Welsh noble who they wanted to elevate above the others as a sort of “middle management” role. And then when the monarchy started to rule Wales more directly they just made the king’s heir Prince of Wales, and that became a tradition. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/250 "2024-03-18T20:02:58Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > “Permaisuri” derives from Sanskrit _parameśvarī_, ‘supreme lady’. Not to be confused with Psy’s _sexy lady_ [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Uwz8Tsvh5oU/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AHUBoAC4AOKAgwIABABGGAgZShNMA8=&rs=AOn4CLAi5PkVjO0YvPySLgHQFU8YHsrSqw "PSY Gangnam Style ''Hey sexy lady''") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwz8Tsvh5oU) ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/251 "2024-03-18T20:31:35Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Well, I’m pretty indifferent to the monarchy, but this is a nice safe little conspiracy theory, that doesn’t matter for anything, and following it is sort of like reading “cozy murder mysteries”. This is pretty much my attitude. They’re such inconsequential people that it’s easy to think of it as just a bit of silly story time. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/252 "2024-03-19T00:52:01Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Not to be confused with Psy’s _sexy lady_ Ha! I’d forgotten what a hoot that was. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/253 "2024-03-19T01:17:29Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > the Roman title “Princeps” and was taken by a “Petty King” Very ironically as originally “princeps” meant the exact opposite (in theory at least). It meant “first citizen” and it was adopted by Augustus to show that he wasn’t setting himself up as king, oh no siree, he was just a regular citizen, like everyone else, just a little better extra. The Republic finished you say? Oh no! Nothing could further from the truth, it’s alive and well and under the protection of the “first citizen” ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/254 "2024-03-19T01:57:48Z")
Yep! He even kept the Senate around, just to show how dedicated to the old ways he was. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/255 "2024-03-19T02:04:34Z")
So TMZ is swearing they have current photos and video of Kate wandering through the market, and she may be a bit thinner than before. Or she may not be. It’s hard to tell. [![](https://imagez.tmz.com/image/7a/o/2024/03/18/7ab64149bd01431ca9b9f94697eb4e34.jpg) ](https://imagez.tmz.com/image/7a/o/2024/03/18/7ab64149bd01431ca9b9f94697eb4e34.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/256 "2024-03-19T02:21:33Z")
I just saw this clip on the news. She looks pretty much as she always has, though a bit thinner, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/257 "2024-03-19T05:58:19Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > If she doesn’t choose to let folks know what sort of treatment she had then nobody should keep on demanding the information. One’s medical history is their own business, even a royal’s. That’s a nice theory but it’s not going to work in the real world. Once it turned into a mystery and maybe a conspiracy then all bets are off. The story will come out sooner or later. ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/258 "2024-03-19T08:42:29Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > Perhaps William could put a mannequin in the passenger seat of a Land Rover, and drive it within a few yards of photographers, close enough for them to get a blurry shot. Washington Post had somewhat of the same idea: > **[Opinion | Cartoon by Pia Guerra](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/03/13/pia-guerra-cartoon-kate-middleton-photo-scandal/)** > > Pia Guerra cartoon on the Kate Middleton photo scandal. ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/259 "2024-03-19T09:02:58Z")
> [@markn\_1](#): > > BTW, what is a “farm shop”? That’s not a term I’m familiar with in the US. Is it a place that sells locally grown produce, or a place that sells farming equipment, or what? Some larger farms have opened stores selling their own, and other locally grown/made, produce, often along with homeware products, gifts etc. You’ll often find a cafe or restaurant on site too, so it’s basically a nice day out for the family. Here’s an example of one that’s particularly fancy: [Dalesford Farm Shop](https://www.daylesford.com/our-locations/daylesford-farm). ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2024, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723/260 "2024-03-19T09:14:54Z")
> [@markn\_1](#): > > BTW, what is a “farm shop”? Others have answered this, so I’ll just add that if you want to see an example, watch “Clarkson’s Farm” on Amazon. It’s a series (two seasons now, I think) about Jeremy Clarkson, formerly of Top Gear, spending time on the farm he previously bought as a hobby, making a serious go of trying to learn agricultural management. He decides at one point to add a farm shop to the grounds, so you’ve got multiple episodes examining how it’s designed and built, what goods are stocked, how the local town reacts, etc etc. I think Clarkson is a giant ass, but the show leans into that (the more experienced farmers in the area correctly regard him as a buffoon), so it turns out to be pretty entertaining and informative. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-dopers-think-of-the-kate-middleton-brouhaha/998723.md?page=14)