What do the dopers think of the Kate Middleton brouhaha

Yes but few others of them would be commonly having planned partial or complete removal with neither pre-existing concern of cancer or major illness before.

Uterus yes. Intestines? Less frequently without one of those two being true. Maybe for diverticulitis? But clearly less common.

I had a friend that was hospitalized for three weeks with pneumonia.

Cervical cancer is not always the result of a sexually transmitted virus. Usually, yes, but not always.

I don’t think either she or William were virgins when they met.

They take out small intestine if you have large polyps. My Daddy had it done.
He had chemo because there were some cancer cells found in the post operative tests.

He did very well, by the way. It relieved him of years of stomach distress.

I don’t think long hospital stays are uncommon. But i think it’s uncommon to know when you enter the hospital that it will be a long stay.

Worth noting that hospital stays in the US are significantly shorter for acute care than in most other countries; for comparison, the average is 7.8 days in Canada (2021) and 7.1 in the UK versus 5.9 in the US. I imagine that the difference has nothing to do with medical factors and everything to do with insurance companies dictating the rules. I know that the one and only time I was hospitalized in Canada for a relatively minor condition there was definitely no rush to get me out and I was in there for five days just for a cardiac stent and post-operative observation. Technically the whole thing could have been an out-patient procedure.

The UK has a two-tiered system of public and private health care, with the latter offering the kind of luxury services that I’m sure the royals receive a particularly enhanced version of. I don’t think anyone would mind being in what is essentially an upscale hotel for a couple of weeks.

Polyps are generally removed out of that cancer concern: they are considered precancerous.

My ex-BF had quad bypass surgery on a Thursday and was home the following Tuesday. AND he sang in a choral recital on Thursday, a week to the day from surgery.

I believe that in the future, when you need surgery, the hospital will just ship the supplies to your home, you will perform it on yourself on your kitchen table, and send them the money.

No, they’ll want the money up front.



Wondering what information you were intending to convey by posting this. On second thought, never mind.

It’s interesting to compare equivalent hospital experiences from when I was still back in the US and then here in Europe now that I’ve relocated.

I had serious food poisoning both times: vomiting, diarrhea, serious dehydration. The first thing that was done in both the American hospital and the hospital here in Luxembourg was a blood test, to ensure my kidneys were still at least marginally functional. Both times, they said I was a few hours from failure, and the situation was urgent.

The American hospital put me on an IV, slammed me full of fluids, and discharged me three hours later, with a warning that I’d be peeing like crazy the rest of the evening. There was no test to determine which specific type of food poisoning I had, just an assumption based on the odds.

In Luxembourg, I was in the hospital three and a half days. The IV fluid drip was much slower: a sizeable “rescue” push at the outset, and then a very gradual drip for the next two days. I was tested repeatedly until they identified the specific toxin. Then they ended the drip and monitored me for another day before discharging me.

My bill in the US hospital was about fifteen hundred dollars; I was responsible for two hundred and the rest was covered by insurance.

My bill in Luxembourg was 30 euros, to cover the parking fee for the three days my car was in the garage. I never saw a full “bill” accounting for whatever the system considered the charges to be.

Night and day, man. Night and day.

Stop eating gas station sushi.

From the NHS:

A hysterectomy is a major operation. You can be in hospital for up to 5 days after surgery

Hysterectomy - NHS (www.nhs.uk)

Still a lot shorter than 2 weeks.

And still 2 weeks away from her kids, no matter how ‘luxurious’ this place may be - which I don’t think anyone really knows but them.

And to be fair to our US hospital system, in least in some cases the accommodations are not that bad. I spent a night in the public women’s and children’s hospital here after having a hysterectomy myself, and it was almost nice - I had a choice of food off a menu, there was a couch for my husband to lounge on, the room had its own bathroom and shower. There was wifi and TV. But I sure still wanted to GTFO.

In the end, no matter what was said or done the speculation games would continue over every last deviation from the common norm, absent a full line by line documentation day by day and even then a segment of the population would remain convinced that this surely was faked/redacted.

I know this is a bit of a tangent, but an anecdatum: the Younger Ottlet was admitted Thanksgiving Eve 2005 and was discharged late January 2006. She pretty much missed out on Thanksgiving*, Christmas and her 16th birthday.

(Crohn’s, initially misdiagnosed as ulcerative colitis because the small intestine was clear. They first tried steroids, which didn’t work at all, then immunosuppressives, which appeared to work at first but failed later, and finally resorted to removing her colon. She emerged with an ostomy bag and a Fentanyl dependency to overcome, but at least she left in a wheelchair and not on a gurney. Not a fun couple of months.)

* Her Thanksgiving “dinner” was a bottle of bowel prep for a colonoscopy the next day. She described it as “concentrated seawater and death.”

Have you considered that it may very well be singularly attributable to Canada being more culturally public transit than the US?

Yeah. Exactly.

:wink:

I saw a meme that you just reminded me of.

Oh, ouch! How is she now?

I had bilateral mastectomy as a day procedure (US), horrifying everyone in my international support group. Most of them had at least a week in hospital for monitoring and follow-up.

As far as I know, they haven’t said what KIND of cancer it is/was.

A hysterectomy would not likely require 2 weeks in a hospital. A friend who had that done (and it was the radical sort, ovaries, cervix etc) for precancerous trends spent a single night. My WAG is that it might be something to do with the colon or other part of the digestive system. Those might well require longer in the hospital; fortunately I have no direct knowledge of the protocol.

It’s unfortunate that it has not (yet) been used as an encouragement to people to get whatever screening is appropriate. Kate’s on the younger side for a colon cancer diagnosis, though Chadwick Boseman might argue that. If that is indeed the issue, speaking out about it might well encourage people to get whatever screening is appropriate for them.

Ditto if it’s cervical cancer, or other reproductive tract cancer. “Get your PAP smears; that’s how mine was caught” or “Don’t ignore weird bleeding!”.

I don’t know about that - I’ve known plenty of people who would love a 2 week vacation away from their family and if I were a member of the royal family being hospitalized for 2 weeks, I wouldn’t have to endure any of the things I hate about being in the hospital. I’m sure the food is good, she had a private room , there wasn’t noise at the nurses’ station all night , there was enough staffing so that everything wasn’t done according to the staff’s schedule. The last time I was in the hospital i was awakened 2-3 times each night - I’m sure some of that was because there were multiple people who needed vitals taken and glucose testing and it couldn’t all be done before anyone was asleep or after everyone woke up.

Well, at least for Kate, her kids were away at school which I imagine was responsible for the timing of the scheduled surgery. They said they were waiting for the kids to come home before telling them about the cancer, which says to me she didn’t have young kids at home at that particular time. Perfect timing to take a relaxing convalescence.