# What do the SDers think of Noni Juice Cure? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 23, 2000, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271 "2000-06-23T03:04:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lindsay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3be4f8/32.png) [@lindsay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsay)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2000, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/1 "2000-06-23T03:04:50Z")
The Fruit Juice is called Tahitian Noni Juice and comes from the fruit of a tree which grows wild in most semi tropical areas of the world. Many native cultures have records of it’s use for a wide variety of ailments. The juice had never been marketed prior to the Morinda company being founded in 1996 solely for the purpose of bringing this remarkable product to the world. The fruit is harvested in Tahiti because of it’s pristine environment. There is a wealth of printed information available on Tahitian Noni Juice and also on the Company Morinda, all of which has been written by independent sources. The best medical info is reported by Dr.Neil Solomon,MD,PhD, A Johns Hopkins-trained Physician and a recognised leader in medical nutrition and nutraceuticals. His credentials are tremendous: Schwentkner Award winner for excellence in research, professorship at Johns Hopkins and University of Maryland Schools of Medicine. Dr Solomon is also the former first Secretary of Health and Mental Hygiene for the state of Maryland. Dr Neil Solomon writes in his book The Noni Phenomenon about chronic pain and lists a table of sources of chronic pain against which Noni may be effective “ ( taken from findings of scientific research, informal surveys, and testimonial material). The list includes diverticulitis, lupus, crohn’s disease and irritable bowel syndrome.” Dr Steven Hall writes in his book NONI Through Your Body about the digestive tract “ I’ve seen Noni heal ulcers . It decreases parasites and infective bacteria while leaving friendly intestinal bacteria alone. It speeds the regeneration of the lining of the intestines, that one cell thick membrane that separates the contents of your bowels from your blood and lymphatic system. This is very important , and here’s why. If that membrane is disrupted for any reason, contents of your bowels that you don’t want in your blood stream, such as bacterial waste products, partially digested foods and products of fermentation, can leak through. Many factors can disrupt this lining, causing what we call in Medicalese, leaky gut syndrome. You may have heard of some of these factors, like candida, parasites and food allergies.Other factors such as inflammatory bowel disease and Crohn’s disease can both be caused by, and the cause of, leaky gut syndrome.” Further on over the page he continues with some of the cycles on the cause and effect of leaky gut syndrome then he writes,”Noni has been very helpful in snipping these cycles. By helping heal ulcers and decrease arthritis, many people are able to stop their leaky gut inducing medicines. Noni helps clear yeast and parasites. Though I doubt it is strong enough to do this alone in the doses we generally take, Noni does improve the effectiveness of standard treatments for these conditions. Noni decreases colonic inflammation, improves digestion and assimilation, and increases cell regeneration - all factors that help break the cycle of food allergies and improve leaky gut. If all Noni did was help heal leaky gut syndrome, it would be an incredible benefit for millions of people. But as we’ll see as we continue to follow Noni through the body, we’ve just barely started.” The Juice is bottled in glass to prevent any gas exchange experienced with plastic containers. Each bottle is 946mls or 32 fl.oz. The bottles are packed 4 to a carton for shipping. The recommended retail price is $320.Australian delivered. The juice can also be obtained for the wholesale price of $253.with a once only registration fee of $52. which includes a pack with a video & a dvd with full details on the Juice and the Company Morinda, as well as talks by doctors and scientists. Many other companies have tried to copy Tahitian Noni Juice but all their products have proven to be inferior and many contain harmful additives. Morinda has the only laboratory devoted to the study of the Noni fruit and they also test their juice against all competitors with none coming close to the quality of the ingredients or the results that Tahitian Noni Juice has achieved. For information on the discovery and history of Tahitian Noni Juice just click on the site [http://www.worldwidescam.com/noni2.htm](http://www.worldwidescam.com/noni2.htm) This is an independent site which investigates various companies and products on the market and exposes those that are not genuine. After reading the above site click on the WWSN Noni Report at the end. Dr Steven M. Hall M.D. who appears on the first report on prostate cancer is the doctor who wrote the book NONI Through Your Body. Additional information is available in the form of a written report from a well respected lady doctor in the USA who held the post of Chief Medical Officer for D.C.General Hospital Boston. There are 2 Medical Journal Reports available. One was done at the Department of Pharmacology & Department of Pathology, John A. Burns School of Medicine, University of Hawaii, Honolulu, Hawaii. The title of the report Anticancer Activity of Morinda Citrifolia (Noni) on Intraperitoneally Implanted Lewis Lung Carcinoma in Syngeneic Mice. The second report is titled Analgesic and Behavioural Effects of Morinda Citrifolia in the Journal of Medicinal Plant Research, Planta Medica from Thieme Medical Publishers, Inc. 381 Park Avenue South, New York,NY 10016. ---
**Author:** ![jamshid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecd19e/32.png) [@jamshid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jamshid)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2000, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/2 "2000-06-23T03:48:16Z")
I’m sure it’s the shit, darlin’. Have at it. ---
**Author:** ![lswote](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lswote/32/5737_2.png) [@lswote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lswote)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2000, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/3 "2000-06-23T04:27:15Z")
Sounds like vodoo medicine to me. And a scam on top of it. $320 for 4 32 oz. bottles of juice is outrageous! ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2000, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/4 "2000-06-23T04:34:40Z")
Just think - homeopathic Noni juice. We could make a fortune! ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2000, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/5 "2000-06-23T05:59:40Z")
Oh, Lordy, not Noni juice again… Some years ago, I worked in an office where everyone, it seemed, was into the stuff but me. It looks like an inky prune juice, and I’ve been told it tastes like ink, too. If you consider one thing: The “researchers” behind some of the articles you mentioned probably had at least some backing by the company that manufactures the stuff. That, off the bat, indicates that at least some of the research is flawed. That, and its users’ insistence that it’s the greatest stuff on earth since Snapple puts it in the same category as other miracle cures: In the Museum of Questionable Medical Devices, right along side shoe-store fluoroscope machines and copper bracelets for arthritis. BTW, one of my co-workers took to drinking Noni when she got pregnant, and she miscarried a few weeks later. I’m not saying there’s a direct connection, but you never know. It’s definitely not something I’d use when pregnant, and I don’t care what the research says. Robin ---
**Author:** ![jayron\_32](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/41988e/32.png) [@jayron\_32](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayron_32)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2000, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/6 "2000-06-23T16:01:39Z")
[rant] This O.P. isn’t a general question, it’s a goddamned sales pitch. Stop filling this otherwise intelligent board with your shit, and take it somewhere where people are inclined to purchase juice for $.25 an ounce just because it makes some wildly unsubstanciated medical claims. Anything that claims to cure a “wide variety” of anything must be shit. Take your Bee Caps and go pawn them off on someone stupid because WE’RE NOT BUYING ANY. [/rant] ---
**Author:** ![Sassy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@Sassy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sassy)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2000, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/7 "2000-06-23T17:51:38Z")
I work with people who have a disease which is related to an overactive immune system. Those who have tried Noni juice reported a major outbreak in disease activity. As a result, these people were forced to increase doses of various traditional remedies, some of which are very hard on the body. I think it’s dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![writefetus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9de053/32.png) [@writefetus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/writefetus)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2000, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/8 "2000-06-23T19:22:42Z")
jayron 32 is right on the $$$$. …um, in a totally unrelated matter, does anyone wanna buy some laeatril? …how 'bout some shark cartilage? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Necros](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/necros/32/11086_2.png) [@Necros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Necros)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2000, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/9 "2000-06-23T20:05:48Z")
I’ll trade you that for some of my powdered rhino horn, **writefetus**. ---
**Author:** ![diamud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@diamud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/diamud)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2000, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/10 "2000-06-23T20:24:48Z")
For that price, does it come with a copper bracelet or magnetic therapy pads? ---
**Author:** ![lindsay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3be4f8/32.png) [@lindsay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsay)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2000, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/11 "2000-06-24T00:17:05Z")
Oh, for the love of hell. Someone pitched this crap to me, and I wanted to know if anyone else had heard of this goddamned stuff. Geesh, go take your Prozac. It was just a request for your opinions, CH. ---
**Author:** ![Kvallulf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@Kvallulf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kvallulf)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2000, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/12 "2000-06-24T00:29:26Z")
So you had to print the entire sales pitch? Wouldn’t “Hey dudeskis, what do you think of Noni juice? Great stuff or Crap?” do the job? ---
**Author:** ![lolagranola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ea5d25/32.png) [@lolagranola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lolagranola)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2000, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/13 "2000-06-24T03:22:48Z")
It’s not just crap… It’s overpriced crap. ---
**Author:** ![lindsay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3be4f8/32.png) [@lindsay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsay)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2000, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/14 "2000-06-24T06:33:37Z")
So go ahead and kill me. Some turkey posted the message to me. Of course I think it is nonsense. I asked someone for help in cutting and pasting the message, and if you notice I asked What Do You Think of This? Of course it is overpriced gunk. On the other side I know rational people who are desperate for relief from pain, what have you and will leap at anything that sounds halfway plausible. Excuse me for liking to send your replies to the jerk who sent me the sales pitch. Geesh! Of course it is dangerous, anyone with two IQ points would know that it is better to go with Tumor Necrosis Factor and other modern treatments. Sometimes it helps to show In-Print that others think stuff is nonsense. Stupid, yes, but there are those who tend to think if it is written, it must be true. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2000, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/15 "2000-06-24T08:45:11Z")
Mmmmm…Noni ink juice. Chug a lug…Chug a lug. It’s an orgastic experience guzzling Tahitian Noni squid plant excretions. Ahhhh… the juice is dribbling down my cheeks staining them black and coming out of my nose with each heaving, Noni tinged breath in little frothy inky bubbles. Ahhhhh…more…need more Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Noni. Drown me in Noonnnnniiii. Hey!..What the hell? My gut is still leaking! This crap doesn’t work!! ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2000, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/16 "2000-06-24T09:28:40Z")
> [@](#): > > Of course I think it is nonsense. In the future, **Lindsay** , you might want to state that up front. ---
**Author:** ![lindsay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3be4f8/32.png) [@lindsay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsay)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2000, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/17 "2000-06-27T03:28:24Z")
I forwarded the replies to the fellow who wants to sell this crap. Now he wants everyone’s e-mail address so he can have a discussion with people who are more open minded. I don’t know what they are supposed to be open minded to. ---
**Author:** ![HorseloverFat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8e8cbc/32.png) [@HorseloverFat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HorseloverFat)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2000, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/18 "2000-06-27T03:42:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > Of course I think it is nonsense. > > In the future, **Lindsay** , you might want to state that up front. > \*\* Why? Quit giving Lindsay the third-degree, she (he?)posted the information she had on hand and asked about it. If you need declarations of belief I suggest you find a church, I’ll stick to open discussion. ---
**Author:** ![HorseloverFat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8e8cbc/32.png) [@HorseloverFat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HorseloverFat)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2000, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/19 "2000-06-27T03:58:11Z")
Interesting settlement in the Arizona, California, New Jersey, and Texas vs. Morinda, Inc. case for false advertising here: > **[Tahitian Noni Claims Curbed | Quackwatch](https://quackwatch.org/consumer-education/News/noni/)** > > On August 26, 1998, the Attorneys General of Arizona, California, New Jersey, and Texas announced a multi-state settlement with Morinda, Inc., a multilevel company headquartered in Linden, Utah. The states had charged that Morinda had made... and here: [http://www.thebody.com/apla/may99/noni.html](http://www.thebody.com/apla/may99/noni.html) The government doesn’t seem to think Noni does much, if anything at all. Unfortunatly most people see a list of [ad copy “testimonials”](http://x38.deja.com/=hotbot/getdoc.xp?AN=502068928&CONTEXT=934212296.173342899&hitnum=43) and go out to waste their cash, then again uninformed consumerism drives the American economy. ---
**Author:** ![lindsay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3be4f8/32.png) [@lindsay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsay)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2000, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271/20 "2000-06-27T10:04:48Z")
Thank you for your great replies. I had never heard of the stuff, and have no idea why the guy contacted me. I do have something to do with an organisation for very ill folks, but giving them advice to buy this stuff is something I won’t do. Ho,ho, that guy was frothing at the mouth when I told him No I won’t give him any addresses. Then there is this gal who used to be a friend until her fanaticism for this holistic stuff drove me batty. She pays $32.00 a pint for this stuff that she swears helps her digestion. She has no idea what is in the stuff. Pathetic, she is beyond help. Of course she is always wondering why she doesn’t feel good. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-the-sders-think-of-noni-juice-cure/23271.md?page=2)