# What do these eight words and/or phrases have in common?

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**Created:** [November 15, 2022, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-these-eight-words-and-or-phrases-have-in-common/974922 "2022-11-15T03:05:36Z")\
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Yep. Well, close enough.

These are the most common English words that do not have a rhyme.

mmm

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**barf**  
**Cheryl**  
**envy**  
**nowhere**  
**onyx**  
**Pyrex**  
**roof**  
**terra**

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ate = 8  
for = 4  
go = ??  
sank = 5 (French)  
to = 2  
tray = 3 (Polish)  
won = 1  
you = ??

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tray = 3 (Italian) is perhaps a better match than Polish.

I’ve spent half an hour on **go** and **you**. I’m stumped.

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One is Korean, one is Japanese. But I don’t speak either of these languages so my hearing of the pronunciations my be wrong…

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Hint: It’s the list you should have seen coming…

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I’m seeing letter names in some of the words, but I don’t have a solution.

b **ar** f = ‘R’  
Cher **yl** = ‘L’  
**envy** = ‘N’ ‘V’  
**Py** r **ex** = ‘π’ ‘X’

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-these-eight-words-and-or-phrases-have-in-common/974922/108 "2022-12-22T18:56:07Z")

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Not the right track.

The hint is already in this thread. You will know the hint when you see it…

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> [@Karen\_Lingel](#):
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> State postal abbreviations?

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Earlier in the thread than that.

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> [@Karen\_Lingel](#):
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> **barf**  
> **Cheryl**  
> **envy**  
> **nowhere**  
> **onyx**  
> **Pyrex**  
> **roof**  
> **terra**

Doper names?

mmm

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They’re all artist names according to Amazon Music. Except roof is “The Roof”. And some of these bands are obscure enough to have 10 followers.

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Not that far back.

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No. Farther back in the thread than that.

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> [@Karen\_Lingel](#):
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> **barf**  
> **Cheryl**  
> **envy**  
> **nowhere**  
> **onyx**  
> **Pyrex**  
> **roof**  
> **terra**

In ROT-18 they’re:

ones  
Purely  
rail  
abjurer  
balk  
Clerk  
ebbs  
green

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-these-eight-words-and-or-phrases-have-in-common/974922/116 "2022-12-22T23:07:30Z")

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That’s not ROT-_18_… But good work.

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-these-eight-words-and-or-phrases-have-in-common/974922/117 "2022-12-22T23:10:15Z")

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Right. I googled a ROT-18 encoder, and the first one I [clicked](https://dencode.com/en/cipher/rot18) actually does ROT-13.

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**chocolate**  
**city**  
**horse**  
**humor**  
**knight**  
**matter**  
**roast**  
**side**

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Those are the first words of the first 8 chapters of Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes.

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LOL, but no.

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