# What do we, as a society, do about pedophilia? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 10, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929 "2011-06-10T01:26:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/61 "2011-06-18T19:38:10Z")
> [@Max\_the\_Immortal](#): > > I was just reading a bit about this yesterday (for a biopsychology course I’m taking). I imagine that certain brain lesions could eradicate someone’s sex drive, but such surgery would carry a risk of collateral damage to other brain functions; they’d also be irreversible, and I shudder to think of the possibility of inflicting them on a falsely-convicted innocent man. I don’t think that enough research has been done yet that we could reliably discern the correct lesions to destroy a human’s sex drive. We know that in rats, males and females have have different neural pathways for libido, and primates are much less well understood. > > My biopsychology textbook also mentioned that hormone treatments apparently can’t change someone’s sexual orientation. If a man, straight or gay, is castrated and loses his sex drive, testosterone therapy can restore it, and it will be of the same orientation that he had before he was castrated. I imagine that the same principle could apply to pedophiles. In fact, we can’t rule out the possibility of a castrated pedophile secretly acquiring black-market hormones that restore his pedophile sex drive. > > The text also mentioned a Norwegian study of over 150 castrated men. About two thirds of them were rapists who had volunteered for the procedure in exchange for reduced sentences. Castration didn’t 100% eliminate the sex drive of every subject; some were even able to have sex. Among the rapists, “only” 3% of them re-offended, but that’s still pretty high if you’re looking for a way to remove a sex offender’s sex drive. 97% success rate? Are you kidding? Given the extremely high recidivism rates for sexual offenders? (sound of a chainsaw being revved) “Bring em on!” ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/62 "2011-06-18T19:53:16Z")
Seriously, a lot of the problems we are having now in dealing with the problems posed by child molesters of various stripes is that we don’t KNOW enough about how it works yet. We know a great deal more than we used to, but we are still in the dark about much of it. So how about this … federally funded research on the topic? Not a Manhattan Project, but if we COULD prevent it, think how much human misery we could avoid. We seem OK with spending money to incarcerate, to punish in other ways, etc. How about some money to UNDERSTAND so we can deal more effectively with the problem? Until we have complete understanding, we’re going to continue with flawed solutions. Anything we come up with in this thread is gonna be a stopgap measure, though some are a lot better than others. ---
**Author:** ![Vlad\_Igor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Vlad\_Igor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vlad_Igor)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/63 "2011-06-18T21:45:26Z")
> [@SoulFrost](#): > > Damn right I’m not interested. The man murdered a four-year-old child. I certainly don’t think he’s innocent, nor do most people here. However, > [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > Seriously, a lot of the problems we are having now in dealing with the problems posed by child molesters of various stripes is that we don’t KNOW enough about how it works yet…How about some money to UNDERSTAND so we can deal more effectively with the problem? Until we have complete understanding, we’re going to continue with flawed solutions. at least acknowledging that a perpetrator was also a victim would put us in a position of looking seriously at the issue, rather than punishing the guilty, end of story. If someone had intervened early in his life, Cecil New probably wouldn’t have committed his crime. He demonstrated altruism in a violent situation, which is not something seen in other types of sexual predators. By ignoring New’s past and simply punishing his crime, we are reacting to the action and ignoring the root cause. That is something we can address, but we get visceral vindication out of punishment that we are deprived of when we instead address the root cause. By making relevant circumstances part of the punishment narrative, we can start to separate the incurable predators from those attracted to sexually mature but legally immature persons from victim/perpetrators, and begin to develop more effective public policy. I don’t think we can do full justice to sexual abuse victims unless we also more effectively prevent the abuse from happening in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/64 "2011-06-18T22:13:14Z")
I do not think an attraction should be regarded as a crime, a sin, or a sickness if it does not lead to actual behavior. The crime is sexual abuse, or actual statutory rape. That is is a serious crime, and I am glad that it is being stigmatized. I also think 18 is an appropriate age of consent, and I do not want it to be lowered. ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/65 "2011-06-18T22:15:17Z")
> [@Vlad\_Igor](#): > > However,at least acknowledging that a perpetrator was also a victim would put us in a position of looking seriously at the issue, rather than punishing the guilty, end of story. The only issue is that he fucking _murdered_ a four-year-old boy. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2011, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/66 "2011-06-18T23:50:18Z")
> [@SoulFrost](#): > > The only issue is that he fucking _murdered_ a four-year-old boy. In the immediate sense, that’s true. And he should be punished appropriately. Part of that punishment SHOULD involve psychological services and examination of his history and behavioral influences, so we can maybe prevent the next killing of a small child, yes? Is the issue “This one person, in a vacuum, killed a kid” or is the issue “how do we, as a society, minimize the number of killings of innocent kids?” ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/67 "2011-06-19T00:15:23Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > In the immediate sense, that’s true. And he should be punished appropriately. > > Part of that punishment SHOULD involve psychological services and examination of his history and behavioral influences, so we can maybe prevent the next killing of a small child, yes? > > Is the issue “This one person, in a vacuum, killed a kid” or is the issue “how do we, as a society, minimize the number of killings of innocent kids?” The court heard the guy’s history of having been abused and _still_ sentenced him to > [@the judge](#): > > …live outside of death row, in general population, in fear of prison justice every day. The court heard about the abuse, the court understood, the court took it into account… and still found him to be a monster. As for the bigger picture… the lives of murderers and sex-offenders are already being studied–they have been for decades. IIRC, the “cycle of violence” has been largely discredited. “He was abused as a child, himself” is not a valid indicator that some future person might kidnap, poison, rape, and murder a four-year-old kid. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/68 "2011-06-19T00:47:25Z")
> [@SoulFrost](#): > > The court heard about the abuse, the court understood, the court took it into account… and still found him to be a monster. How is that relevant to my point again? Oh, right, it’s not at all. Did you maybe not read “he should be punished appropriately”? As an aside, the judge saying “in fear of prison justice every day” as part of the sentencing is IMHO nearly as bad as the actual molestation (both involving people in a position of power abusing that power in extra-legal ways, after all), and should be immediate grounds for a mistrial. > [@](#): > > As for the bigger picture… the lives of murderers and sex-offenders are already being studied–they have been for decades. IIRC, the “cycle of violence” has been largely discredited. > “He was abused as a child, himself” is not a valid indicator that some future person might kidnap, poison, rape, and murder a four-year-old kid. Link me a study instead of an IIRC and I might give a shit about your opinion. Or I might not, since you’ve come out in favor of extra-legal abuse by an agent of the legal system (which makes you a dangerous asshole). ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/69 "2011-06-19T01:29:25Z")
> [@SoulFrost](#): > > The only issue is that he fucking _murdered_ a four-year-old boy. Your tone indicates you are thinking emotionally rather than rationally. A thought terminating cliche does not help anyone. Catching criminals after the fact is not enough. If we can find the triggers that make people more predisposed to these behaviors, we can actually prevent deaths instead of just punishing people. The only thing the death penalty does is provide deterrence, and deterrence does not stop people who are sufficiently irrational. (Well, if the deterrence is in the form of corporal punishment, it works on a primal level. But lessons you learn from someone else require rational thought.) ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/70 "2011-06-19T01:31:17Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Link me a study instead of an IIRC and I might give a shit about your opinion. Or I might not, since you’ve come out in favor of extra-legal abuse by an agent of the legal system (which makes you a dangerous asshole). I really have nothing left to say to you. Later. ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/71 "2011-06-19T01:45:32Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Your tone indicates you are thinking emotionally rather than rationally. A thought terminating cliche does not help anyone. Not so, if you’ll look to **Vlad / Igor** ’s posts in this thread. I was pointing out that Mr. New was on trial, not for abusing the kid or for being a pedophile or for anything sex-related, but for _murdering_ the boy. > [@](#): > > Catching criminals after the fact is not enough. If we can find the triggers that make people more predisposed to these behaviors, we can actually prevent deaths instead of just punishing people. The only thing the death penalty does is provide deterrence, and deterrence does not stop people who are sufficiently irrational. Agreed, but as I said earlier, I believe that the “cycle of violence” idea has been largely disproven. I’ll try to find some reputable cites in a bit. ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/72 "2011-06-19T02:11:24Z")
> [@SoulFrost](#): > > Agreed, but as I said earlier, I believe that the “cycle of violence” idea has been largely disproven. I’ll try to find some reputable cites in a bit. [Cite from the US Accountability Office](http://www.gao.gov/products/GGD-96-178). > [@link](#): > > GAO found that: > (1) there was no consensus among the 23 retrospective and 2 prospective studies reviewed that childhood sexual abuse led directly to the victim becoming an adult sexual abuser; > > (2) the retrospective studies, which sought to determine whether a sample of known sex offenders had been sexually abused as children, differed considerably in the types of offenders studied, use of control or comparison groups, and definition and reporting of childhood sexual abuse; > > (3) although some of the retrospective studies concluded that childhood sexual abuse may increase the risk that victims will commit sexual abuse later, most of the studies noted that the majority of sex offenders had not been sexually abused as children; > > (4) the prospective studies, which tracked sexually abused children into adulthood to determine how many became sex offenders, studied sample populations that may not be representative of the entire population of childhood sexual abuse victims; > > and (5) the prospective studies found that victims of childhood sexual abuse were not more likely than nonvictims to be arrested for sex offenses. A link to the full .pdf is at the top of the page. The study is from 1996, though, and only applies to the cycle of sexual abuse, not to other types of physical abuse or to neglect. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/73 "2011-06-19T02:16:13Z")
I honestly believe that a lot of people have a sadistic side to them, a side that enjoys the idea of other people being brutalized and actually gets gratification at the notion of an acceptably “evil” person being tortured, raped and killed. And since child molesters are pretty much the _only_ people about whom it is societally acceptable to feel this way, they’re the ones who draw all the rhetoric about “prison justice” and castration and all of that. I think, as bad as their crimes may be, we have to remember they are still human beings and still entitled to the rule of law. But since lots of people apparently just _have_ to let their inner rabid dog of righteous rage out for a romp, pedophiles are the target. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/74 "2011-06-19T02:52:03Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > (which makes you a dangerous asshole). You’ve been here long enough to know that there is no excuse for calling other posters assholes in Great Debates. This is a Warning to avoid that behavior. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/75 "2011-06-19T03:04:10Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > I honestly believe that a lot of people have a sadistic side to them, a side that enjoys the idea of other people being brutalized and actually gets gratification at the notion of an acceptably “evil” person being tortured, raped and killed. And since child molesters are pretty much the _only_ people about whom it is societally acceptable to feel this way, they’re the ones who draw all the rhetoric about “prison justice” and castration and all of that. I’d add terrorists to that; look at all the people who enthuse about torturing accused terrorists. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/76 "2011-06-19T05:01:19Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > You’ve been here long enough to know that there is no excuse for calling other posters assholes in Great Debates. > > This is a Warning to avoid that behavior. > > [/Moderating] You’re right, I got emotional. The insult was uncalled for, and I apologise. ---
**Author:** ![panamajack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@panamajack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panamajack)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/77 "2011-06-19T19:17:58Z")
I think there is difficulty around the term “pedophile” as if it meant only one thing. I know that the OP avoided this, but it seems to be a popular way of looking at the issue. I’m prepared to be corrected on this, but my understanding is that a fairly large number of people who are sexually attracted to children, and thus potential pedophiliac offenders, may also be attracted to adults. I think those cases tend to be more of the ‘ep/hebephilia’ types, but that category is just as much, if not more, of a problem as that with young children. Not that I can think of a good solution. But if ostracism is a proposed solution, then these cases would need to be dealt with as well. Making it voluntary is not effective — the truth is there are some people who are comfortable with these desires and argue for it being legal. But casting someone out merely on the basis that they might be part of the group seems to be the wrong way to go, especially if they might well lead an acceptably normal sexual life with adults and never offend. ---
**Author:** ![mitosises](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@mitosises](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mitosises)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/78 "2011-11-23T06:39:07Z")
> [@](#): > > Someone else is eventually going to bring up the ‘paedophilia is the same as homosexuality’ argument soon. Someone who I’d never suspected of being so uninformed did that on another thread just the other day. So I’ll get in there first - it’s not the same because a) sexuality is about more than just sexual attraction and b) it depends on a partner who can truly be a partner. A pre-pubescent or early teen child can’t. Saying paedophilia is inborn is kinda like saying wanting to rape is inborn. a) sexuality is about more than just sexual attraction I agree. But do you think that pedophilia is just sexual attraction? Is a sexuality, meaning that some people can (and are) romantically and emotionally attracted to children. You have never talked with a pedophile, have you? What makes you to conclude that pedophilia is just sexual? b) it depends on a partner who can truly be a partner. A pre-pubescent or early teen child can’t. Saying paedophilia is inborn is kinda like saying wanting to rape is inborn. Completely false analogy. Wanting to rape children is different from wanting to have consensual sex with one. The opposite would be like saying that wanting to fly is the same as wanting to die from falling from the sky. If you dream of flying, you dream of flying, you dont dream of splashing your brains on the pavement because of gravity. Also, saying that a child cant be a truly partner depends on your definition of partner. PS: Of course that pedophilia is not the same as homosexuality. It doesnt mean its bad either. > [@](#): > > “Clearly attraction to pre-pubescent kids (or going through pubescence kids) is a whole other realm and clearly wrong.” Why its ‘wrong’? Because you find it difficult to understand? > [@](#): > > "Our society has changed and decided that sex with teens is unacceptable for various reasons, but it seems to me that there’s a fundamental difference between sexual attraction to teens and sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children. Sexual interest being linked with the development of secondary sexual characteristics in the opposite sex seems like a **pretty easy to _understand_ idea."** And what that difference being? Children (pre-pubescent children) are extremely beautiful on their own. Not to mention their amazing and lively personalities. I think there is a strong anti-pedophile bias just because its the attraction to pre-pubescent children. Can you explain why that would be “wrong”? It seems that people are saying “oh, if you are attracted to teens, dont worry, you are not like the truly sick pedophiles”. Why is that? > [@](#): > > “People with pedophilia are bad. Full stop.” > [@](#): > > "Sexual interest being linked with the development of secondary sexual characteristics in the opposite sex seems like a pretty easy to understand idea. This kind of comment really show how people “think”. **If an idea its easy to understand (attraction to opposite sex, etcetera) then it must be OK. If an idea its difficult to understand (pedophilia) then it must be wrong and people who think that are clearly bad (full stop!)** > [@](#): > > "Except that, like I said, paedophilia depends on attraction to someone who can’t consent. That is a HUGE difference. " Children can consent. They can say yes or no, they can feel sexual pleasure and have sexual emotions. They can fall in love with someone older, although they certainly dont have the same notion of sex as we do. They are not allowed to consent, which is a different issue. People think that children are “asexuals”, which is laughable. > [@](#): > > “By making relevant circumstances part of the punishment narrative, we can start to \*\*\*separate the incurable predators from those attracted to sexually mature \*\*\*but legally immature persons from victim/perpetrators, and begin to develop more effective public policy.” See? Why do you think that someone who is not attracted to the “Sexually mature” is an “incurable predator” but someone who is can be redeemed? :smack: This is typical heterosexual bullshit. You think that a criminal who is like you, who shares your sexual orientation, is ‘not that bad’, he is ‘curable’, he is ‘NORMAL’. While a criminal who does not share your sexual orientation is ‘an incurable predator’. > [@](#): > > “If we separate out people with Hebephilia and Ephebophilia (which legally we don’t now) there might be fewer people who are seen as having the more legitimate problem of ACTUAL PEDOPHILIA, and we might not be quite so hysterical about it.” You dont see any bias there? Treating “ACTUAL PEDOPHILIA” (sic) as a sickness while ephebophilia as completely “natural” and “normal”. It might be, but so is pedophilia. There is a clearly heterosexual bias that favors ephebophilia (attraction to teens, mostly girls) against pedophilia. Under your view, anything that resembles “normal” normative heterosexuality (teens with big breasts, sluty 15 yo wearing make up., etc.) is OK, while liking an extremely beautiful, lively and cute 7 yo girl is “sick” and “abnormal”. TL; DR: There is clearly an heterosexual bias that favors attraction to teens girls over attraction to children. Ephebophiles are more similar to heterosexuals, thus **I can understand them** , so they must be OK while pedophiles are BAD! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/79 "2011-11-23T10:09:38Z")
This…is going to go well. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929/80 "2011-11-23T13:43:59Z")
> [@mitosises](#): > > Completely false analogy. Wanting to rape children is different from wanting to have consensual sex with one. “Wanting” to have consensual sex with children is anon-issue, because they are not capable of informed consent. (See below.) > [@mitosises](#): > > **If an idea its easy to understand (attraction to opposite sex, etcetera) then it must be OK. If an idea its difficult to understand (pedophilia) then it must be wrong and people who think that are clearly bad (full stop!)** Given that the post to which you are responding addresses both Hebephilia and Ephebophilia, your injection of homosexuality to the discussion is an unwarranted straw man argument. > [@mitosises](#): > > Children can consent. They can say yes or no, they can feel sexual pleasure and have sexual emotions. They can fall in love with someone older, although they certainly dont have the same notion of sex as we do. They are not allowed to consent, which is a different issue. People think that children are “asexuals”, which is laughable. You have confused two issues in a troubling way. First, children cannot consent in an informed way to sexual activity with an adult. It is analogous to society “preventing” children from entering legal contracts. They lack the knowledge, the experience, and, frankly, the mental maturity to consent in the manner that we expect adults to consent. (Before you try to argue this point, read enough of Piaget and his fellow researchers to have a serious basis for your opinion.) Next, I see no one saying that children are asexual. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-as-a-society-do-about-pedophilia/584929.md?page=5)