# What do we call these fucking people? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 22, 2001, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420 "2001-02-22T04:04:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/21 "2001-02-22T14:25:51Z")
[we now return you to your regularly scheduled hijack] Re “the spirit of Cecil”. Oh, yeah, it’s definitely okay to express skepticism. It’s just that after it’s gone on for 4 pages, and it involves a well-known, and in the eyes of the SDMB, already well-debunked conspiracy theory, people tend to get a tad irritable with yet another, “Yes, but…” I got jumped on a teeny bit a while back when I stubbornly persisted in believing, in the face of all evidence to the contrary, that there’s a ghost in _Three Men and a Baby_. But it didn’t go on for 4 pages, because somebody finally weighed in with a train of thought that made sense to me, explaining the picture. So I went, “Oh. Okay.” [shrug] The thing I like most about you, Bick, is that so far you’ve been, in a word, polite. We’ve seen a lot of conspiracy theorists come (and go), and the reason they go is usually because they get all pissy and hysterical when THEY can’t convince US, for example, that the moon landings were a hoax. Then they start spewing venom, and dribbling shit all over the boards, and they get lots of flame threads started about them, and eventually they get so mad that they stomp off, fuming. So you’re doing well so far–you’re not here to make converts, you’re not here to pick a fight. Keep up the good work! [/hijack] Eh, **Satan** , you’re making this too easy for me. > [@](#): > > And how, exactly, is this one any different from anyone else on the list? List? What list? OH, you mean this list? > [@](#): > > \*\*The fucking circumcision jerk > > Creationists who keep on talking > > The fucking moon hoax jerk > > He who cannot be named (Begins with a P) > > The fucking Navaho-writing jerk > > John John (Dick Dick) > \*\* Er, not having been blessed with mental telepathy (Cecil says it doesn’t exist), I have no clue as to who these people are. (A search under “moon hoax” All Open Forums, Any Date, brought up 96 threads. Which “fucking moon hoax jerk” did you have in mind? [RiverRat?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=43098) ) So, how can I tell you how Bick is different from these people, if I don’t even know who they are? Heh. Logic. And I haven’t even had my coffee yet. 🙂 Name some names, babe, and then we’ll have a talking point. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/22 "2001-02-22T14:25:57Z")
I’m not gonna comment on BickByro, since I haven’t read a single post of his, outside of this thread. However, I think I understand the _category_ of poster that Brian’s referring to here. John John (aka Cyberian54) is still around, over on [Fathom](http://fff.fathom.org/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro&BypassCookie=true), as Johnsbury1. I remember P… all too well. And I am quite familiar with the creationists. What I see here are a group of people who definitely have brain cells to rub together, and can create what look like plausible arguments. In this respect, they superficially appear to be among the fighters of ignorance. However, their particular obsessions (JDT and circumcision; Johnsbury and the Clintons; every creationist and evolution) seem to grab hold of them to the extent where they can’t admit the failings of their arguments, even when pointed out to them in great detail. Is this close to what you had in mind, Brian? If we’re comparing them to LOTR characters, I’d vote for Saruman, who looked like one of the good guys long after he’d embarked on his personal quest for domination of Middle-Earth. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/23 "2001-02-22T14:29:03Z")
OOOH, now that’s what I call a spooky simulpost! Were you reading my mind, RT? But Cecil says telepathy doesn’t exist… Oh, no, I’m having a crisis of faith. I need counseling. No. I need COFFEE. ---
**Author:** ![inor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f475e1/32.png) [@inor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inor)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/24 "2001-02-22T15:15:56Z")
it’s short, curt, and dismissive. So that’s what I’m gonna use. [sub]or fucker. fucker works for me too… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/25 "2001-02-22T15:30:48Z")
For the Fundied liars (such as the incredibly ridiculous FoG), how about… FORNOGRAPHER. That’s a combination of FUNDIE and PORNOGRAPHER, based in part on the excellent description of some (most?) of his posts as “Fundie Porn.” * * * Who’s the “Navaho writing jerk?” ---
**Author:** ![SkeptiJess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@SkeptiJess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkeptiJess)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/26 "2001-02-22T16:48:02Z")
I have a long-standing private name for these types and, in a strange coincidence, I just referred to it rather obliquely in another [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=60886). A little background – I have a theory that there are two things mankind will _always_ feel led to do: They will fight and they will fuck. It is, as I like to say, the nature of the beast. We teeming millions are _ignorance fighters_, right? So I call the above types: _ignorance fuckers_. Those who willingly embrace ignorance. Jess (to repeat: _fighting_ ignorance, not fucking it) ---
**Author:** ![Yue\_Han](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/eada6e/32.png) [@Yue\_Han](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yue_Han)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/27 "2001-02-22T16:55:34Z")
I favor hydra myself… Now, as to the real reason I’m here. This bullshit > [@](#): > > He who cannot be named (Begins with a P) invests a dickhead of below-average IQ with some kind of legendary powers. He’s just an asshole who self-destructed in public, not some cyclopean Elder God. And his name is \*\*Phaedrus Phaedrus Phaedrus\*\* –John ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/28 "2001-02-22T17:51:53Z")
How about calling them this: “people who happen to disagree with me, and I failed to convince them of my point of view (just as they failed to convince me of their point of view), and henceforth I must demonize them instead of respect their opinions.” Not very pithy, I admit. ---
**Author:** ![BickByro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/13edae/32.png) [@BickByro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BickByro)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/29 "2001-02-22T18:04:55Z")
I _can_ have a sense of humor about myself, and I’d have to agree that “hydra” comes the closest to what I’ve been up to. Can’t speak for the other assholes… Yue Han: “He’s just an asshole who self-destructed in public, not some cyclopean Elder God.” LOL, ROFL, etc. How’d you like THAT on your tombstone? ---
**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/30 "2001-02-22T18:17:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Revtim \* > > \*\*How about calling them this: > > “people who happen to disagree with me, and I failed to convince them of my point of view (just as they failed to convince me of their point of view), and henceforth I must demonize them instead of respect their opinions.” \*\* “Here at The Straight Dope, we don’t take votes on the facts.”-_Cecil Adams_. Maybe you think that it is admirable to hold onto opinions which are factually invalid? Or maybe you think that if you scream louder or longer than everyone else that makes you right? > [@](#): > > \*\*Not very pithy, I admit. \*\* “Pith off.”-_Cecil Adams_ As for _YOU_ John, if it rises from the dead because you said the beasts name thrice in a row, I shall be forced to smite you. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Nacho4Sara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Nacho4Sara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nacho4Sara)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/31 "2001-02-22T18:44:53Z")
> [@](#): > > ## This bullshit quote: > > ## He who cannot be named (Begins with a P) > > invests a dickhead of below-average IQ with some kind of legendary powers. He’s just an asshole who self-destructed in public, not some cyclopean Elder God. And his name is > > \*\*Phaedrus > > Phaedrus > > Phaedrus\*\* I thought it was \*\*PerkyDan PerkyDan PerkyDan\*\* but maybe I’m wrong. I was lurking back then, and not lurking much, so I might have missed something. As for the name, I like **FIFEL** : Fighting Ignorance from Enemy Lines. And it reminds me of that cute Disney mouse who went West or something. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mermaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@The\_Mermaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mermaid)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/32 "2001-02-22T18:44:58Z")
Because [this asshole](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=59965) was only here a few hours, he would have been easy to miss. I must admit that I was shocked by the level of hate and ignorance this guy spewed forth in only a handful of posts, mostly because his nastiness was directed at me. Now I may be silly at times, opinionated or even just plain wrong (rarely) but I am definitely not a "crack smoking whore with the intelligence of a chicken or even a “merfag” (sic). How about Psuedo Intellectual Troll Sucker or Pitsucker for short? ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/33 "2001-02-22T18:46:20Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by Satan \* \*\* > [@](#): > > Maybe you think that it is admirable to hold onto opinions which are factually invalid? Or maybe you think that if you scream louder or longer than everyone else that makes you right? > \*\* So, you are who decides what facts are valid and invalid? Maybe you should change the username from Satan to God. Do you think starting pit threads to derive derogitory names for people that disagree with you strengthens your argumentative position? I find that less worthy of respect than your own charge of “screaming louder or longer”. You know, the ironic thing is that I can’t remember an issue that you and I disagreed with. But I find starting a thread to make derogitory insults against your opponents pretty juvenile, and a tactic worse than anything you accused the people in the OP of. Yeah, nothing like name-calling to make a logical point against the people who disagree with you. That’s good ignorance-fighting! ---
**Author:** ![muppetsoup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@muppetsoup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muppetsoup)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/34 "2001-02-22T19:07:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Mermaid \* > \*\*Because [this asshole](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=59965) was only here a few hours, he would have been easy to miss. I must admit that I was shocked by the level of hate and ignorance this guy spewed forth in only a handful of posts, mostly because his nastiness was directed at me. > > Now I may be silly at times, opinionated or even just plain wrong (rarely) but I am definitely not a "crack smoking whore with the intelligence of a chicken or even a “merfag” (sic). > > How about Psuedo Intellectual Troll Sucker or Pitsucker for short? \*\* How sad is it that I didn’t have to click the link to know who you’re talking about? Is he gone already? That’s a damn shame… ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/35 "2001-02-22T19:07:44Z")
> [@](#): > > As for _YOU_ John, if it rises from the dead because you said the beasts name thrice in a row, I shall be forced to smite you. ::deep breath:: **Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice!** . . . . . Humph… . . . . . Oh, well, it was worth a shot. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/36 "2001-02-22T19:08:55Z")
I’m not sure why you want to call them; they seem to find their way here on their own, OK. All happy posters resemble one another, but each unhappy poster is unhappy in his or her own way. Perhaps we don’t really need one all-encompassing term? ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/37 "2001-02-22T20:55:03Z")
Why validate their existence with a title? If you still insist on a list, may I suggest Serlin, concrete, and the Rosiewolf/Idnew/LilPotato hillbilly clan. I also agree that “those whose beliefs are different than mine” do not a troll make. And FTR, I haven’t seen anything in Bicks behavior that even remotely resembles those in the OP list. ---
**Author:** ![Navigator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4af34b/32.png) [@Navigator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Navigator)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/38 "2001-02-22T20:59:05Z")
Okay… Satan: ‘what do we call these…’ _waves hands gesturing to a couple… umm… doing the deed…_ Satan: ‘f\*\*\*ing people?’ Ummmm… nymphomaniacs? sexual addicts? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![celestina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/258eb7/32.png) [@celestina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/celestina)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/39 "2001-02-22T21:12:07Z")
Oh, Satan, I understand how it can be painful and frustrating reading posts by or arguing with unreasonable people, but I thought the point of the SDMB is “to fight ignorance.” The people on the SDMB would be bored if they didn’t come across ignorant people. I am new to this board, and I’ve been shocked but not surprised at some of the stuff people put on here. Maybe after a while, I’ll get to the point you’re at, but right now I want to believe that the people you’re talking about have learned from their encounters on the SDMB. Therefore, I propose this name for ignorant people and their posts: Necessarily Evil Crap or NECs for short. What do you think? They do after all stick their necks out there and fight for the side of ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2001, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420/40 "2001-02-22T23:17:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rectum \* > > \*\*So, you are who decides what facts are valid and invalid? Maybe you should change the username from Satan to God. \*\* Maybe you should change your name to moron. I said “facts.” Cecil said “We don’t take votes on the _facts_.” Not opinions, of which I have not, nor will I, smite. FACTS. Buy a fucking dictionary and get back to me. You do know the difference between facts and opinions, I hope? > [@](#): > > \*\*Yeah, nothing like name-calling to make a logical point against the people who disagree with you. That’s good ignorance-fighting! \*\* Quick. Call Vanna White and buy a clue immediately. Right after you get that dictionary. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-we-call-these-fucking-people/55420.md?page=3)