# What do women find ugly in men?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 26, 2007, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520 "2007-01-26T02:55:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/81 "2007-01-27T00:47:34Z")

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Everyone has likes and dislikes. Some things I might dislike doesn’t necessarily mean a person is ugly.

Almost everyone has the potential to look good or presentable with a little grooming, same way with women.

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**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/82 "2007-01-27T00:51:46Z")

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One thing I really don’t get here is the body hair thing. Some guys are not hairy, some are moderately hairy, and some are very, very hairy, but, um, by the time he takes his shirt off I’ve already passed the point where it matters. (Unlike the teeth thing.)

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**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/83 "2007-01-27T00:53:15Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
I had tetracycline medication for asthma as a child, with the result that my teeth are striated – yellow and white bands. Overall, the impression is yellow. They can’t be whitened by bleach or anything, the coloring is in the enamel.

Would it be worthwhile to get them capped (if I could afford it)?  
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Veneers are pretty expensive but they do look amazing. Even bonding which is a lot less money will give good results for a lot less. Look into a dental school. You can get it done there for a fraction of the price.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/84 "2007-01-27T00:56:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Hilarity N. Suze]  
#2 turnoff–stingy personality. You may think it doesn’t show. But it does.  
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Stingy WRT money, or what?

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**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/85 "2007-01-27T01:06:37Z")

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BrainGlutton, here’s a school near you I think

[http://www.nova.edu/HCC/dental/index.html](http://www.nova.edu/HCC/dental/index.html)

Maybe not so close

> **[College of Dentistry » University of Florida](https://dental.ufl.edu/)**
>
> Established in 1972, the UF College of Dentistry is the only publicly-funded dental school in the State of Florida and is a national leader in dental education, research and community service.

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**Author:** ![moonstarssun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@moonstarssun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moonstarssun)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/86 "2007-01-27T03:07:56Z")

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Features that are unattractive on one person can be attractive on another, IMO. And just about everyone has something attractive about him or her.

Generally it’s personality traits that I find unappealing in men, rather than looks. I like men who are confident, intelligent, compassionate and funny.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/87 "2007-01-27T03:27:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Hilarity N. Suze]  
One thing I really don’t get here is the body hair thing. Some guys are not hairy, some are moderately hairy, and some are very, very hairy, but, um, by the time he takes his shirt off I’ve already passed the point where it matters. (Unlike the teeth thing.)  
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That’s my experience too (as a pretty hairy guy). Once my shirt was off, it was time for the crazy sex, and the hair didn’t matter in the least.

Hell, my fiance told me once (paraphrased): “You know… I always said I didn’t like back hair, and that it was gross, but to be honest, I kind of like it… it’s fun to run my fingers through and play with while we’re cuddling and making out.”

So it’s not all one way or the other.

And guys… the divide between the women who want thin, lanky types and the ones who want burly bear types is about 50-50. I’m built very much like an NFL offensive lineman, only about 4 inches shorter than the average, and you would probably be surprised at the level of female interest I used to get. Unfortunately, I was pretty damned clueless, but the interest was definitely there.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/88 "2007-01-27T03:31:42Z")

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I have to say, all you ladies who are turned off by back hair don’t know what you’re missing. Back hair is fucking awesome. You’d rather touch bare skin? Really? Would you rather pet [this cat](http://photo.bigasterisk.com/harlan/photofolder/fuzzycatcurl_info/fuzzycatcurl.jpg) or [this cat](http://www.ljplus.ru/img/k/a/kaminsky/bald_cat.jpg)?

Once you go back hair, you’ll never go back… there… to those guys who don’t have any… uh… back hair.

Or something.

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**Author:** ![Anastasaeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@Anastasaeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anastasaeon)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/89 "2007-01-27T03:36:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
I have to say, all you ladies who are turned off by back hair don’t know what you’re missing. Back hair is fucking awesome. You’d rather touch bare skin? Really? Would you rather pet [this cat](http://photo.bigasterisk.com/harlan/photofolder/fuzzycatcurl_info/fuzzycatcurl.jpg) or [this cat](http://www.ljplus.ru/img/k/a/kaminsky/bald_cat.jpg)?

Once you go back hair, you’ll never go back… there… to those guys who don’t have any… uh… back hair.

Or something.  
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He speaks truth, ladies. I used to be attracted to the body-hairless, and then I met my husband. He’s hairy. He’s also warm on cold nights. His chest, it’s like a bearskin rug! Sooo nice. 😃

Cuddly.

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**Author:** ![blue\_sky\_dreamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@blue\_sky\_dreamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_sky_dreamer)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/90 "2007-01-27T10:46:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
I have to say, all you ladies who are turned off by back hair don’t know what you’re missing. Back hair is fucking awesome. You’d rather touch bare skin? Really? Would you rather pet [this cat](http://photo.bigasterisk.com/harlan/photofolder/fuzzycatcurl_info/fuzzycatcurl.jpg) or [this cat](http://www.ljplus.ru/img/k/a/kaminsky/bald_cat.jpg)?

Once you go back hair, you’ll never go back… there… to those guys who don’t have any… uh… back hair.

Or something.  
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Miller… stroking pussies doesn’t really jive with my orientation. 😉

Look - guys with hairy backs can be happy that they have fans. It just really isn’t going to be me. If you’re a fan, you should be happy, since that leaves more of your favorite guys for you.

I think y’all missed the line about not wanting to date someone that reminded too strongly of dear old dad. For me, that also pretty much sorts out men shorter than me and men who are bald with a fringe. I love my dad, but contrary to what Freud thought, I don’t want to date/sleep with someone like him.

Just about any other physical attribute is up for discussion since, as many others have said in this thread, an attractive personality can trump a lot of physical preferences.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/91 "2007-01-27T12:59:42Z")

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[QUOTE=romansperson]  
Yes. It is good for men to get a little taste of what happens to us women all our lives. It’s not fun to feel that if you are not classically attractive you are utterly worthless. Or invisible, in the case of us women who are over 40.  
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So true. I mean, I’m male and that never happened to me.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Shecky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@Shecky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shecky)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/92 "2007-01-27T15:27:48Z")

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Speaking as a guy who sees his hair is moving from brown to clear - might I inform you ladies that sometimes, we can’t help some for of combover! My hair has been trained to grow in a certain way since I was 14. I also have a head shape that is not conducive to shaving all the hair off. So, I have thinning with combover. It works for me now, but I see my father’s head and realize that eventually, I’ll have to either go Ron Popeil on it or dye it.

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**Author:** ![Carnac\_the\_Magnificent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Carnac\_the\_Magnificent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnac_the_Magnificent)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/93 "2007-01-27T15:41:09Z")

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[QUOTE=msmith537]  
What about sharp-witted meanness and arrogance with really nice hair? 😃  
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Sorry, the arrogance has to be backed by wealth, Ivy education, and rakish looks. 😉

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/94 "2007-01-27T16:04:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
So true. I mean, I’m male and that never happened to me.

:rolleyes:  
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The difference is that it doesn’t happen to you constantly. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/95 "2007-01-27T16:16:25Z")

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[QUOTE=romansperson]  
The difference is that it doesn’t happen to you constantly. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:  
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Sez yoo. If you’d followed me around with a video camera pretty much all through my twenties, you might be singing a different tune.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/96 "2007-01-27T18:13:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Caridwen]  
BrainGlutton, here’s a school near you I think

[http://www.nova.edu/HCC/dental/index.html](http://www.nova.edu/HCC/dental/index.html)

Maybe not so close

> **[College of Dentistry » University of Florida](https://dental.ufl.edu/)**
>
> Established in 1972, the UF College of Dentistry is the only publicly-funded dental school in the State of Florida and is a national leader in dental education, research and community service.

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Thanx. Maybe I’ll check it out. I don’t think it’s a **big** problem – the way my mouth is shaped, my teeth don’t show much unless I really grin or snarl.

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**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/97 "2007-01-27T19:38:05Z")

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I’m sure it isn’t as bad as you think it is. But even bonding looks good, and it’s not very expensive.

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/98 "2007-01-27T20:09:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
Sez yoo. If you’d followed me around with a video camera pretty much all through my twenties, you might be singing a different tune.  
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**Malacandra** is right. Trust me, I’ve got the videotape to prove it.

Seriously though, **M** , I know how you feel.

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**Author:** ![Mrs.Cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mrs.Cake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs.Cake)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2007, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/99 "2007-01-27T22:17:21Z")

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**Diana G** pretty much said what I came in to say. I dated a wide (physical) variety of men and the only thing they had in common, other than the Y chromosome and a decent command of English was good hygeine. Thin, fat, hairy, smooth, balding, flowing locks, pink, brown, tall short, and a lot in between. All were attractive to me (some pheremone at work?). Yes, even (gasp!) hairy backs! Beards! Untamed pubic hair! I guess I didn’t get a lot of specific imprinting when I was young and so never settled on a “type”.

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**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2007, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-women-find-ugly-in-men/389520/100 "2007-01-28T02:07:02Z")

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Poor hygiene is about it for me, short of morbid obesity. I’ve been attracted to hairy, hairless, tall, short, thin, heavy, brunette, blond, red-haired, blue eyes, brown eyes, green eyes…Common factor in all was sense of human and a kind heart.

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