# What do you believe that you could only say in the Pit?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 27, 2007, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674 "2007-05-27T02:33:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/1 "2007-05-27T02:33:25Z")

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I’m putting this here because the nature of the statements is Pit-ish, but I am hoping NOT to start any arguments. I’m looking for the things fellow Dopers firmly believe that they know they can’t normally defend without accusations of trollery or bigotry.\*\* I can’t control the thread, but if it were up to me, there would not be any arguing about these things, just stating them. \*\*

1. I don’t vote and I’m proud of it.
2. Circumcision is mutilation.
3. Sex with people who are at least 16 is not always wrong, though I wouldn’t do it myself.
4. Some forms of socialism are better than some forms of capitalism.
5. Women are better writers than men.
6. Men are better at giving directions than women.
7. Fat people are often sexy, and so are very skinny people.
8. Monotheism is more dangerous than polytheism.
9. Maybe the sun doesn’t 100% shine out of Israel’s ass, huh?
10. Or Palestine’s, but seriously.
11. Bush doesn’t matter and his puppetmasters love that you think he does.
12. Partisan politics are destroying this country, but I’m all for that.
13. Yeah, that’s right, I hate America.
14. No, I don’t think it’s better elsewhere, I just think we’re part of why.

Your turn.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/2 "2007-05-27T02:45:26Z")

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1. With rare glandular exceptions, fat people have only themselves to blame for their condition.
2. No-fault divorce is a major factor in a substantial number of the US’s problems today.
3. Not all cultures are equal.
4. No, your opinion on the subject is **not** equal to mine. I am trained in this area. You are not.
5. There should be more requirements for voting than just being over 18 and breathing. Lots more.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/3 "2007-05-27T03:05:51Z")

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1. By a strange coincidence, everyone who beleives in more resrictive standards believe themselves eminently qualified.

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**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/4 "2007-05-27T03:23:33Z")

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1. There should be more requirements for motherhood than the ability to spread your legs and get knocked up.
2. If he has children by more than one babymama, you and your spawn are going to be left on the side of the road just like they were.
3. It is not kindness to your cat to let in roam freely in an urban/suburban environment.
4. Neutering a dog (or cat) does not remove the testicles from a male owner.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/5 "2007-05-27T03:25:46Z")

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How very reassuring.

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/6 "2007-05-27T08:41:08Z")

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1. Yes, Jimmy Carter, Bush really is the worst President in history.
2. Al Gore is electable as President now.
3. Global warming is not a myth.
4. Melinda Dolittle was robbed.
5. No, just because you are a guy and I am Gay, I am not interested, really.
6. Banning smoking in bars is like banning fucking in bed.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/7 "2007-05-27T08:49:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Ensign Edison]  
3. Sex with people who are at least 16 is not always wrong, though I wouldn’t do it myself.  
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Prude. 14 is just fine.

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**Author:** ![essell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/34f0e0/32.png) [@essell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/essell)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/8 "2007-05-27T08:52:50Z")

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[QUOTE=DMark]  
29. Banning smoking in bars is like banning fucking in bed.  
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Good. It’s more fun doing it around the house anyway.

1. There are plenty of Laws which can be broken, morally. Look at the authors of them.
2. There’s a value in stereotypes. They didn’t come out of nowhere.
3. Pot Noodles are great food.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_C](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Captain\_C](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_C)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/9 "2007-05-27T09:28:20Z")

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1. Children have no place out in public and should be left at home if they cannot behave to the same standard as the rest of us. I would be arrested if I ran around the mall screaming and knocking over stuff.

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**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/10 "2007-05-27T09:41:50Z")

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1. This is a rip-off of **Diggleblop** ’s thread

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/11 "2007-05-27T09:55:21Z")

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1. Not everybody should have a driving permit. People over 60 should be subject to very serious testing, yearly, to keep their driving privileges.

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**Author:** ![The\_Dumbest\_Guy\_in\_the\_Room](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@The\_Dumbest\_Guy\_in\_the\_Room](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dumbest_Guy_in_the_Room)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/12 "2007-05-27T11:49:31Z")

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1. An atheist’s opinion on something is of much greater value than a theist’s opinion.

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**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/13 "2007-05-27T12:07:50Z")

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#37. A war isn’t pointless, period. Anything that contributes to population control is OK.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/14 "2007-05-27T12:09:40Z")

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1. Many, many people are alive only because it would be illegal to kill them.

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**Author:** ![Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5e9695/32.png) [@Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Licentious_Ectomorph)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/15 "2007-05-27T13:01:09Z")

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1. Health care is not a right. It’s a business, just like any other good or service produced by human beings, and those human beings are not your slaves just because _you_ need or want something from them.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/16 "2007-05-27T13:51:45Z")

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1. SUVs are wonderful vehicles and everybody ought to get one.
2. What’s so bad about talking on your cell phone while you’re driving? I do it all the time.
3. I never wear a seatbelt – I’m much safer being thrown free of the car in an accident.

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/17 "2007-05-27T14:54:44Z")

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[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]  
39. SUVs are wonderful vehicles and everybody ought to get one.  
40. What’s so bad about talking on your cell phone while you’re driving? I do it all the time.  
41. I never wear a seatbelt – I’m much safer being thrown free of the car in an accident.  
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Do you honestly believe these? Particularly the third one?

Not that I’d ever tell you to stop. I love looking at new photos on [Rotten.com](http://Rotten.com).

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**Author:** ![parthenokinesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cc9497/32.png) [@parthenokinesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/parthenokinesis)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/18 "2007-05-27T16:57:13Z")

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1. Sometimes a punch in the mouth is the appropiate action.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/19 "2007-05-27T17:10:55Z")

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American Libertarian-style Rugged Individualism is morally inferior to subsuming yourself in Society a-la Democratic Socialist N. Europe.  
American Libertarians online often give me the same vibes as the racist fucks in SA who run [Orania](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orania).  
The coalition troops are the bad guys in the Iraq war. They deserve to get their asses kicked.  
Numbering your Pit points is dumb when one simulposter will fuck it up for everybody 🙂

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**Author:** ![coffeecat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coffeecat/32/3405_2.png) [@coffeecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coffeecat)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/20 "2007-05-27T17:31:00Z")

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1. Psychology is not a science.
2. One person’s vote does not matter.
3. Pro-life demonstrators who get arrested for protesting too close to a clinic are being civilly disobedient, just like Thoreau, Gandhi, and Martin Luther King.  
45a. Therefore, civil disobedience does not necessarily make your opponents respect you for your integrity.
4. It has been mathematically proven that MrDibble doesn’t exist. 😉

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