# What do you believe that you could only say in the Pit?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 27, 2007, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674 "2007-05-27T02:33:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/21 "2007-05-27T17:48:25Z")

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1. Zionism is indefensible; Jews born in Europe and America do not have more rights to the land in Israel than non-Jews born there.
2. Killing innocent people to protest Zionism is even worse.

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**Author:** ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/22 "2007-05-27T17:55:38Z")

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0x31 Even on these boards, most people are idiots  
0x32 Christianity is inherently evil

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/23 "2007-05-27T18:15:31Z")

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We need to pull out of Iraq. Not because it’s their country or whatever, but because a hundred Iraqi civilians is not worth one american soldier’s life (airman, marine etc).

Every politician is evil. Every single one of them.

Democracy is overrated. People are too stupid to govern themselves.

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/24 "2007-05-27T18:27:57Z")

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So, far, I haven’t seen a single stated belief that couldn’t be defended (albeit perhaps not effectively) in Great Debates, or presented in IMHO. Just do it without swearing or personal attacks, and we should be able to talk about anything.

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**Author:** ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/25 "2007-05-27T18:38:51Z")

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Ok **Baldwin** , I think I can only say this in the pit as it’s a personal attack - I believe **Der Trihs** is a mild-mannered conservative Seventh Day Adventist IRL 🙂

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/26 "2007-05-27T18:41:18Z")

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Some of those are opinions that are going to invite personal attacks even if the proponent doesn’t start it. My Iraq one, for one.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Hildo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@Johnny\_Hildo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Hildo)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/27 "2007-05-27T18:47:06Z")

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1. When at the grocery story, never get in a line behind an elderly lady or an immigrant. If you do, you’re just asking for aggravation.

2. Jailbait chicks who wear t-shirts adorned with cherries or the words “Porn Star” should legally be considered fair game.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/28 "2007-05-27T18:58:20Z")

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1. I agree with a scary number of the above, and cannot name one that I can only say in the Pit. But in the spirit of the thread:
2. Religion is fundamentally harmful and will go extinct eventually, but it will take a very long time, as in centuries at the very least.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/29 "2007-05-27T20:30:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Johnny Hildo]  
50. Jailbait chicks who wear t-shirts adorned with cherries or the words “Porn Star” should legally be considered fair game.  
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I have never agree with anything as much as I’ve agreed with this.

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/30 "2007-05-27T21:09:14Z")

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\*n.\*Even if it’s the Pit, it’s not necessary to hurl every possible insult at someone.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/31 "2007-05-27T21:30:15Z")

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That when laid bare, most Dopers are extremists who society would be better off without.

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/32 "2007-05-27T21:36:34Z")

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i love Jesus and he loves me . And i’m proud of it. Don’t like it or don’t believe it ? i’m all broke up. So fucking what . I mean to see justice is served within my sphere of influence hell be damned. Justice for you . Justice for all.Peace be with you.

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**Author:** ![Mbossa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@Mbossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mbossa)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/33 "2007-05-27T21:44:41Z")

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People who constantly whine about threads being “Godwinized” are as bad as Hitler.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/34 "2007-05-27T21:56:05Z")

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Even though I know plenty (and even love some) intelligent people who believe in religion, it still staggers me sometimes that they cannot see it for the fairy tale that is so obviously is. In even a high-school educated population, there should be about the same amount of adults who believe in God as adults who believe in the Easter Bunny.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/35 "2007-05-27T21:57:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Johnny Hildo]  
50. Jailbait chicks who wear t-shirts adorned with cherries or the words “Porn Star” should legally be considered fair game.  
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If you ain’t selling, don’t advertise.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/36 "2007-05-27T22:05:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Mbossa]  
People who constantly whine about threads being “Godwinized” are as bad as Hitler.  
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😃 That was hilarious.

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**Author:** ![MizTina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MizTina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MizTina)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/37 "2007-05-27T22:21:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain\_C]  
33. Children have no place out in public and should be left at home if they cannot behave to the same standard as the rest of us. I would be arrested if I ran around the mall screaming and knocking over stuff.  
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Preach it!

I not only agree 100%, but my ex and backed it up. If while at the store, if one of ours misbehaved and was attempting to become awful, I had no problem with tucking the offender under my arm and leaving a full buggy behind.

At a resturant, same thing…packed it up, paid the bill and left. The boys soon learned that we weren’t going to put up with it. I wish other parents would do the same.

Oh, and I firmly believe that every damn polititian is so deep in corporate pocket they shit lint.

That most large corporation CEOs would gladly condemn us to the burning fires of hell for a bit more brass in their pockets.

T

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**Author:** ![Martha\_Medea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@Martha\_Medea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martha_Medea)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/38 "2007-05-27T22:36:34Z")

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[QUOTE=SnakesCatLady]  
20. There should be more requirements for motherhood than the ability to spread your legs and get knocked up.  
21. If he has children by more than one babymama, you and your spawn are going to be left on the side of the road just like they were.  
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[QUOTE=RevTim]  
Even though I know plenty (and even love some) intelligent people who believe in religion, it still staggers me sometimes that they cannot see it for the fairy tale that is so obviously is. In even a high-school educated population, there should be about the same amount of adults who believe in God as adults who believe in the Easter Bunny.  
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Absolutely.

The minimum driving age should be raised to 25.

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**Author:** ![Millit\_the\_Frail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Millit\_the\_Frail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millit_the_Frail)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/39 "2007-05-27T22:53:03Z")

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There is no such thing as “accidental pregnancy.” There is only “unwanted pregnancy” and “people who somehow won’t admit that it was their fault for choosing to have sex without using one or more of the million forms of protection out there.”

We, as a society, should criticize people for their lack of self-control more often.

Cats are no fun, and they leave boxes of feces around your house, which is just disgusting.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/40 "2007-05-27T23:07:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Revtim]  
Even though I know plenty (and even love some) intelligent people who believe in religion, it still staggers me sometimes that they cannot see it for the fairy tale that is so obviously is. In even a high-school educated population, there should be about the same amount of adults who believe in God as adults who believe in the Easter Bunny.  
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Atheists who think they are smarter than theists suffer from delusions of grandeur.

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