# What do you believe that you could only say in the Pit?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 27, 2007, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674 "2007-05-27T02:33:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/41 "2007-05-27T23:10:38Z")

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Trying to examine God with science is like trying to examine gravity with prayer.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/42 "2007-05-27T23:17:27Z")

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-Regular bathing should be forced by law

-Health care is a right-children should not be dying from [fucking toothaches](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/27/AR2007022702116.html) in this day and age. Especially in the richest country in the world. Anyone who says otherwise is a greedy, selfish bastard.

-REASONABLE gun control (waiting periods, for example, for background checks) are not restrictions, nor an infringment of one’s rights.

-There are nutbars in every group-judging an entire class of people by the lunatic fringe is fucking fucked up.

-The Israelies and the Palestinians need to be sat down and told, in no uncertain terms that enough is enough. BOTH sides need to compromise, and if they don’t listen, the UN needs to step in. [Mom Voice]If you can’t share the Holy Land, NOBODY gets it![/Mom Voice]

-George W. Bush is probably the worst president EVER, except MAYBE Nixon, and that’s a toss-up.

-Humans are just a bunch of assholes. I’m an asshole, you’re an asshole, EVERYONE’S a goddamned asshole.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/43 "2007-05-27T23:19:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Millit the Frail]  
Cats are no fun, and they leave boxes of feces around your house, which is just disgusting.  
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“No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.”  
Eleanor Roosevelt

(who obviously never had a cat)

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**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/44 "2007-05-27T23:20:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Martin Hyde]  
That when laid bare, most Dopers are extremists who society would be better off without.  
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Excluding yourself, of course. You _cadillac_ of a man.

[/resisting obvious joke about laying bare]

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/45 "2007-05-27T23:57:25Z")

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Anyone who says everyone should have health care, but hasn’t bought even one policy for a poor person, is a fucking hypocrite.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/46 "2007-05-27T23:58:28Z")

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People who call pets their “babies”, or who treat animals like children, are emotionally retarded at approximately the level of eight year old girls.

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/47 "2007-05-28T00:01:45Z")

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Okay, I’ll try to get into the spirit of things.

Human civilization is doomed. We’re not going to the stars, we’re not going to be immortal, we’re not going to create a peaceful utopia – we’re not going to make it out of this century.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/48 "2007-05-28T00:05:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Lord Ashtar]  
Atheists who think they are smarter than theists suffer from delusions of grandeur.  
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Theists will see delusions of grandeur when an atheist simply states what he or she believes.

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**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/49 "2007-05-28T00:22:01Z")

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white heterosexual males who complain about reverse discrimination are ignorant and weak.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/50 "2007-05-28T00:37:50Z")

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Hip hop music is crap.  
Obesity is voluntary.  
Humans aren’t supposed to be vegetarians.  
Islamic extremism poses no serious threat to the US.  
Life is not sacred.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/51 "2007-05-28T00:39:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
Anyone who says everyone should have health care, but hasn’t bought even one policy for a poor person, is a fucking hypocrite.  
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How about those who believe that people should buy things for the poor-when they can’t even afford such things for themselves?  
:rolleyes:

-Theists and Atheists need to just shut the fucking fuck up, and agree that both sides have their assholes, and neither are morally superior.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/52 "2007-05-28T00:44:20Z")

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[QUOTE=RandMcnally]  
We need to pull out of Iraq. Not because it’s their country or whatever, but because a hundred Iraqi civilians is not worth one american soldier’s life (airman, marine etc).  
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Ironically, and especially due to the fact that Iraqis did NOTHING to provoke your ire, I believe you have the equation ass-backwards.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/53 "2007-05-28T00:44:33Z")

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Atheism and theism are not symmetrical when it comes to assholes. There are way, WAY more religious assholes than atheist ones and they do a lot more damage.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/54 "2007-05-28T00:51:04Z")

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Ps-Might I add that you’re a worthless cumstain? Well, you are, permission or otherwise. You are one load your Momma should have been proud to swallow.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/55 "2007-05-28T00:55:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
Humans aren’t supposed to be vegetarians.  
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Humans are _supposed_ to [**activity X**]? Not _supposed_ to [**activity Y**]? Since when do you use those as meaningful teleological terms?

And I do hope I’m using the word “teleological” correctly…

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/56 "2007-05-28T00:56:33Z")

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[QUOTE=RedFury]  
Ps-Might I add that you’re a worthless cumstain? Well, you are, permission or otherwise. You are one load your Momma should have been proud to swallow.  
[/QUOTE]

Now _THAT’S_ one that can only be said in the Pit! 😃

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/57 "2007-05-28T01:02:56Z")

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> [@Lib](#):
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> Anyone who says everyone should have health care, but hasn’t bought even one policy for a poor person, is a fucking hypocrite.

Ain’t talking to me that I know for sure. As you well know, atheist here and everyone under my employment is fully covered – as are their families.

Does that make me a believer/pseudo-saint or a normal, feeling human-being, whose heard and felt of “empathy” b4?

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/58 "2007-05-28T01:21:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
There are way, WAY more religious assholes than atheist ones…  
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To be fair, there are way, way more theists than atheists, period. Assholes are assholes, and are distributed fairly uniformly, IME.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/59 "2007-05-28T01:36:31Z")

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[QUOTE=kaylasdad99]  
Humans are _supposed_ to [**activity X**]? Not _supposed_ to [**activity Y**]? Since when do you use those as meaningful teleological terms?

And I do hope I’m using the word “teleological” correctly…  
[/QUOTE]

Let me rephrase myself. Humans are not _adapted_ to be vegetarians.

ETA you did use the word “teleological” correctly.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-that-you-could-only-say-in-the-pit/405674/60 "2007-05-28T01:46:22Z")

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[QUOTE=RedFury]  
Ironically, and especially due to the fact that Iraqis did NOTHING to provoke your ire, I believe you have the equation ass-backwards.  
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Eh. I have something in common with an american soldier. A shared culture, upbringing etc. For whatever reason, for right or wrong, _those people_ are trying to kill me, my friends, and my brothers in arms. When it comes down to it, my own are worth more to me than _those people_.

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