Take that tongue out of your cheek right now, young man! Who knows where it’s been?
You seem to have a lot of nasty things to say about atheists, but your rubber never really seems to meet the road: you never actually demonstrate that atheists really are the way you say, by and large. And of course, you couch all your slanders in weasel language that you later can just go back and say doesn’t apply to anyone in particular.
Jesus didn’t believe that the world would be around long enough to care about earthly matters. Trying to turn this into a doctrine of separation of church and state is ridiculous. Render unto Caesar ain’t it.
Ok, the above applies to you and Der Trihs, but not Diogenes the Cynic or Voyager.
And yet, there you will find the foundation of the philisophical thread that founded it. The notion of a seperate spiritual life and temporal life takes root there. Christ was specifically fighting the Pharisees who had a pretty cozy relationship with Rome. Not to understand that notion is to not understand the history of the west. I’ve posted several voluminous posts about the rise of modern secularism. If you are that ignorant of how the end of Ecclesiastical authority occurred in western civilization, the history lesson it would require is beyond my capability on an internet message board.
Try:
Rise and Decline of the State by Martin van Creveld
Templars by Piers Paul Reed
Moral Minority by Brooke Allen
The attempts to remove the stranglehold that Christianity has over Western Civilization is shallow at best. It’s revisionist history that is devoid of any meaningful content. If I were making a similar argument trying to revise Plato’s influence out of the picture in the same way, the same people making the arguments against Christ would be so far down my throat they could tell me what I ate for breakfast yesterday.
I am glad that you know how long Jesus thought the world would be around though. 
Ok, well then you are lying about me, at least. Stop it.
This claim is so weak as to be ridiculous. The idea of the separation of church and state did not arise until 1600 years AFTER the founding of Christianity, and it came about in REACTION to the Christian theology of the day, not because of it. If there was any thread of Christian thought that supported it, it certainly was not a thread anyone interpreted into it until a millenia and a half later.
What does that have to do with SoCaS? Worse, that’s a pretty lousy accounting of history. The Pharisees were radical scholars and separatists: and worse, they were hardly “cozy” with Rome (it was the Sadducees who were often accused of being cozy, and, frankly, the Gospel stories themselves, which have little if anything bad to say about Roman oppression and much that is strangely flattering about it) and it was THEY that emphasized a separation between wordly and spiritual realms (something that is even more starkly an idea in gnosticism, a HERETICAL idea in Christianity and some of Judaism).
Forgive me if I don’t find you a very reliable historian, so simply declaring that you know best is not particularly convincing.
The only one spinning historical revisionism here is yourself. Forgive me, again, if I trust people who have some actual expertise in the subject over yourself.
I know because he said it, and his early followers repeated it and said it themselves.
While I could reasonably believe that the quote likely played some part in the development of American Church and State Separation (especially given Jefferson’s development of his version of the Gospels minus the supernatural along with his use of the much-maligned wall of separation phrase), I have a difficult time believing that the idea was itself solely founded upon that quote alone or that Jesus (assuming he existed and is rightly credited with the quote) was the first to articulate the concept.
Hopefully the spouse or significant other.
Neither, actually. I’m contentedly single (and short-term abstinent) at present. 
No foolin’ What a strange coincidence. Me too.
Essentially, the seperation of church and state was put in by a bunch of protestants and deists who wanted to worship freely. Jesus statement was a good argument that it was perfectly compatible with Christianity to have a separation. Also, there is a whole lot of history of secularization leading up to the founding of the United States, which I have tried to point out and have been summarily ignored. When Secular Kings in Europe were asserting their authority, they used arguments about how the church in Rome is supposed to preside over spiritual affairs, not temporal ones. This of course removed a lot of power from the Roman church as Roman lands were seized by secular rulers.
This argument is in my opinion rather asinine, because throughout the history of Europe from Jesus up until the Modern era Christianity was the main current, and they tried to jive every political doctrine with Christianity in some way. Most political arguments up until about 1700 were Christian vs Christian. Humanism was spawned out of Christianized philosophy.
Apos Whatever happened to “No one will know the day or the hour.” etc… etc… ?
As far as discussing it. You can deny what I say all you want, but it seems more like you are ignoring it. I have yet to see you remark at all about what I said about the secularization of the Monarchies prior to the formation of the United States, even though I’ve brought it up multiple times. You can appeal to some vague ‘authority’ of historians that know better than I do all you want. I gave you three cites of books that back up my argument, by real historians. One of them was even a compilation of primary sources.
Separation of Church and State is just a manifestation of secularism. I am talking about the longer historical current that is secularism, that is tied intrinsically with the formation of the nation-state system.
So far all you’ve done is personally attack me, but haven’t addressed my points as I have presented them.
Here are two main points in list format:
- Monarchs seized power from the church taking power as ‘secular’ rulers.
- All of them were Christians.