# What do you make of this creepy photograph? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 28, 2007, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753 "2007-06-28T12:27:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2007, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/61 "2007-07-02T16:09:56Z")
Well the original is much more creepy but I’m still not convinced that she is dead or even seriously hurt. I guess I’m just an optimist, or maybe I’ve done f/x make-up too long so I’ve seen people look worse. You can’t really trust the color in the photograph. Your web browser doesn’t display all the colors of the photograph and then there is the quality of the scan and your personal monitor settings. So it’s very difficulty to judge the over all color of this image. Maybe if she were cuter and blonder then this would be national news. Call Nancy Grace and we’ll hear nothing but this 24/7 for a few weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2007, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/62 "2007-07-02T16:17:05Z")
**Zebra** , you did notice (in the unretouched photograph) the red, wet, tissuey clumps in her hair, right? ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2007, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/63 "2007-07-02T16:34:18Z")
Yes I see her wet hair but I’m not seeing ‘chunks of tissue’ in it. [QUOTE=Johnny Hildo] Oh for fuck’s sake. Were any of these retouched by a forensic artist? What do you think a forensic artist does? I’ll tell you. Facial reconstruction of skulls. Computer generated composites. Age progression sketches and sculptures. He’s not some dork sitting around on his computer taking the red eye out of drunk people in keg party pictures. [/QUOTE] You have no proof that this touch was done by a forensic artist for the purpose of reconstruction. It came from the OSBI lab (OKlahoma State Beruo of Invstigation) but that does not mean it was done by a forensice artist. It could have been done by someone who just knows how to retouch a photo. Not every crime lab is like CSI and OSBI has been known to be sucky. Like their scientist that falsified reports in hair matching and convicted hundreds of people with her testimony. Is anyone in this thread a doctor or nurse with trama room expierence? I’d like to hear that opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2007, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/64 "2007-07-02T21:19:06Z")
I [Dugg](http://digg.com/world_news/Photograph_of_possibly_injured_woman_found_at_Oklahoma_gas_station) the story, for whatever good that could do. Really eerie story. ---
**Author:** ![Shryn\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Shryn\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shryn_King)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2007, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/65 "2007-07-02T22:34:59Z")
Troy, check your link out. I was able to find it at the following… [http://www.mcclaincountysheriff.com/index.asp?content=25](http://www.mcclaincountysheriff.com/index.asp?content=25) ---
**Author:** ![Shryn\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Shryn\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shryn_King)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2007, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/66 "2007-07-02T22:40:03Z")
Sorry, Troy! I should have been clearer. I was checking out the Digg website. I was curious because I had never seen it before. Once I got to DIGG and read what you wrote, I tried the link you had listed. I was not able to get to the site, at first I thought maybe it was because of the spelling of unidentified…but, that didn’t help. ---
**Author:** ![Operation\_Ripper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/34f0e0/32.png) [@Operation\_Ripper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Operation_Ripper)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2007, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/67 "2007-07-04T03:08:30Z")
Any updates? ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/68 "2007-07-04T17:36:39Z")
That link goes to a blank “Press Room” page…anyone have another one? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Hildo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@Johnny\_Hildo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Hildo)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2007, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/69 "2007-07-04T18:30:33Z")
Strange that the link has gone blank. I wonder if they’ve identified her? You can still see the picture [here,](http://www.mcclaincountysheriff.com/mcclain/unideentified.jpg)however. Posters on another board have opined that the indistinct spot on her upper lip might be a fly. ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2007, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/70 "2007-07-04T19:22:14Z")
The website of the [McClain County Sheriff’s Office](http://www.mcclaincountysheriff.com/) has nothing about the case, not on their page of [press releases](http://www.mcclaincountysheriff.com/index.asp?content=25), nor on their page of [missing persons](http://www.mcclaincountysheriff.com/index.asp?content=19) or the [Sheriff’s message](http://www.mcclaincountysheriff.com/index.asp?content=11). My guess is that the case has been found to be a hoax or a misunderstanding. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2007, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/71 "2007-07-04T19:39:27Z")
[QUOTE=Walloon] The website of the [McClain County Sheriff’s Office](http://www.mcclaincountysheriff.com/) has nothing about the case, not on their page of [press releases](http://www.mcclaincountysheriff.com/index.asp?content=25), nor on their page of [missing persons](http://www.mcclaincountysheriff.com/index.asp?content=19) or the [Sheriff’s message](http://www.mcclaincountysheriff.com/index.asp?content=11). My guess is that the case has been found to be a hoax or a misunderstanding. [/QUOTE] Well, now’s the time to start an internet panic, then! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Hildo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@Johnny\_Hildo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Hildo)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2007, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/72 "2007-07-06T09:13:01Z")
UPDATE: A guy from Websleuths has been emailing the local sheriff’s department and the official word is that this woman is an Iraqi homicide victim, the picture being taken in Iraq. That’s all they’re saying at this point. So how’d a photo of it wind up in Lightyerfart, Oklahoma? ---
**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2007, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/73 "2007-07-06T13:17:28Z")
[QUOTE=Johnny Hildo] So how’d a photo of it wind up in Lightyerfart, Oklahoma? [/QUOTE] A journalist had a copy maybe? ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2007, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/74 "2007-07-06T14:28:50Z")
It would be an interesting way to drive attention to civillian casualties in Iraq- scatter a few pictures of dead Iraqis around the heartland of America. Maybe it’s a protest or art project of sorts. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2007, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/75 "2007-07-06T14:40:34Z")
Or somebody printed it from an email and dropped it to see what would happen. I wonder how they found out she was from Iraq? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2007, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/76 "2007-07-06T15:41:16Z")
[QUOTE=Swallowed My Cellphone] A journalist had a copy maybe? [/QUOTE] A soldier, more likely (most journos I know don’t make prints). Huh. I hope the photo’s origin is discovered. A ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2007, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/77 "2007-07-06T16:49:02Z")
[QUOTE=Cat Fight] A soldier, more likely (most journos I know don’t make prints). Huh. I hope the photo’s origin is discovered. A [/QUOTE] I’d say you’re right. After GW 1.0 a coworker in the guard showed off the photo album of things he’d taken pictures of. You know that famous photo of a Japanese soldier’s remains after he’d been hit by a flamethrower? Yeah, that was what some of the “nicer” photos looked like. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Hildo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@Johnny\_Hildo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Hildo)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2007, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/78 "2007-07-07T09:32:22Z")
[QUOTE=Tuckerfan] I’d say you’re right. After GW 1.0 a coworker in the guard showed off the photo album of things he’d taken pictures of. You know that famous photo of a Japanese soldier’s remains after he’d been hit by a flamethrower? Yeah, that was what some of the “nicer” photos looked like. [/QUOTE] So we’ve established 2 things: Our soliders are gorehounds. Also, this woman is dead. Not that anyone gives a fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Operation\_Ripper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/34f0e0/32.png) [@Operation\_Ripper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Operation_Ripper)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2007, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/79 "2007-07-07T18:08:21Z")
[QUOTE=Johnny Hildo] So we’ve established 2 things: Our soliders are gorehounds. Also, this woman is dead. Not that anyone gives a fuck. [/QUOTE] No, we haven’t established anything of the sort. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2007, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753/80 "2007-07-07T18:17:34Z")
[QUOTE=Operation Ripper] No, we haven’t established anything of the sort. [/QUOTE] I found the [topic](http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50654) on the Websleuths board, and according to the person who wrote the Sheriff, she is dead, and she is Iraqi. It’s a long read, but the investigative process they went through is incredible. Post number 377, on page 16 is where writing to the Shreriff is first mentioned, and that person makes other posts regarding the correspondence several times in the following pages. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-make-of-this-creepy-photograph/409753.md?page=5)