# What do you think about Drake?

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**Created:** [May 6, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-drake/754112 "2016-05-06T22:37:21Z")\
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In the late 1980s I dated a guy named Drake. Tall, sandy-blond hair, blue eyes, wicked smart, owned his own tuxedo. Drove a VW bug up to the Yacht Club (his parents were members) and had it valet-parked, which was the most go-to-hell move I’d ever seen.

So you know him? No?

Oh. Then I don’t know who you mean.

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> [@orcenio](#):
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> That’s a bit presumptuous, no? [emphasis’ mine]

Sure, I wasn’t there. Still, you have to make assumptions at some point or you’d never have an opinion on anything.

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> [@Zeke\_N.Destroi](#):
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> Celine Dion and who?
> 
> I can think of a few but I’m wondering who is on your list.
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> As far as Drake goes I’m fucking sick of him. I don’t especially like his music and he is constantly being talked about in Canadian radio and news services.
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> I don’t like his stuff regardless of whether he is Drake, Drizzle, D. Izzle or any other iteration of his adopted name.

Bieber and Nickelback, but feel free to substitute your own.

BTW, does the Weeknd ever get not slow and boring? I’m sure he’s a great singer, it just doesn’t seem very interesting from what I’ve heard, yet people seem to think his music is the best ever so I probably just haven’t heard the right things.

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Do you generally like hip hop or R&B? If not, don’t worry about it. This isn’t for you.

Yeah, see but it isn’t really for me either. I try not to be a hip-hop snob or anything. So I’ll try not to pigeonhole him as the pop rapper du jour, but to me Drake is just middle of the road pop-rap that’s inoffensive without being particularly notable. Compared to a lot of guys who carried the torch as THE pop-rapper of the day, he’s well above most of them, but that doesn’t mean I like him or think he’s good. He’s OK.

I also acknowledge I am old. I am not THAT old. I am in my late 30s, and I can easily name half a dozen rappers in their FORTIES who out-rap Drake in 2016. But that’s old for hip-hop and pop. So someone who had an 8 Track of “Rapper’s Delight” (and remembers/bought the NEW cover version of that song/cover compilation CD that came out almost 20 years ago) and listened to Run DMC in elementary school, had every EPMD and Eric. B and Rakim cassette, remembers when herbs listened to MC Hammer, when it went from “cool” to not cool to like the Fresh Prince, went through a heavy Rawkus phase, remembers when Lil Wayne was a kid and (IMHO) sounded much better, remembers when Beyonce mispronounced Kanye’s name on MTV, or when no one would sign Jay Z and later when he got clowned on for copying Puff Daddy, etc. - I am not supposed to listen to Drake, either.

And I’m cool with that. Drake might as well be Justin Beiber, but I’m assuming he’s a little better. It’s not a “hip hop” thing with me. It’s a young kids pop thing.

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I hardly ever think about him at all. He’s okay, I guess.

He had some pretty decent comedy chops for an adolescent on _The Amanda Show_, and he and Josh had a good chemistry that justified them getting their own sitcom. I’m happy for him that he gained a modicum of success, but he (or his agent) should have looked out for his interests a little better, and not been content with the one-note nature of his character. Josh’s character actually developed some during the course of the series, and as a result, he managed to land a substantial spot on an episode of _The Big Bang Theory_.

Drake’s big post-_Drake and Josh_ project, OTOH, was a live-action/CGI made-for-TV _Fairly Oddparents_ movie, which TBH, wasn’t very good (as delightful as Cosmo and Wanda are).

Most distressing (to my daughter, anyway) is that he doesn’t seem to want to do anything these days except hang out at Disneyland.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2016, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-drake/754112/46 "2016-05-08T08:15:15Z")

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> [@Sahirrnee](#):
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> I thought you meant this Drake
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> [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363328/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363328/)
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> I think my son watched it a few times.

That IS what the question _What do you think about Drake?_ means.

Why? Is there another guy who’s also called Drake?

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2016, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-drake/754112/47 "2016-05-08T08:36:09Z")

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the equation would be the first thing to my mind.

I’m not a total shut-out from modern music, I could name you a Katy Perry and Lady gaga song, I know that people called Taylor Swift and Kanye West exist (though I couldn’t name any of their hits)

But Drake? no. Not until this thread have I had any inkling of their existence.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2016, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-drake/754112/48 "2016-05-08T08:50:51Z")

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> [@orcenio](#):
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> No matter how insulated from pop culture you THINK you are…you’ve heard of “[the motto](https://youtu.be/BYDKK95cpfM?t=90)”

I was hoping that thing would say what the motto is, so I could evaluate whether I’d heard of it or not, but that link turned out to be just a music video, which I can’t even hear because the sound on my tablet sucks.

> [@](#):
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> …It took me awhile to not see him as “that wheelchair Degrassi kid” but I’ve always liked Drake’s stuff.

I think you spelled that wrong; it’s **DeGrasse**. And I never heard of Neil DeGrasse Tyson being in a wheelchair.

Are you thinking of Stephen Hawking?

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Drake doesn’t even try to carry a tune. It’s excruciating to listen to.

> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> I’m not very insulated from pop culture and I have never heard that song.

If he’s not trying to carry a tune, is it accurate to call it a “song?”

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2016, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-drake/754112/50 "2016-05-08T09:33:16Z")

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I enjoyed _Started from the Bottom_, but since then all his raps have sounded pretty much the same to me.

Meanwhile tunes like _Hotline Bling_ are more of a club style than rap. I don’t see the appeal of this kind of song, even as something to dance to (too slow + flat), but I don’t go to clubs any more, so I’m not in the target audience.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2016, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-drake/754112/51 "2016-05-08T10:50:12Z")

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> [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](#):
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> Yeah, see but it isn’t really for me either. I try not to be a hip-hop snob or anything. So I’ll try not to pigeonhole him as the pop rapper du jour, but to me Drake is just middle of the road pop-rap that’s inoffensive without being particularly notable. Compared to a lot of guys who carried the torch as THE pop-rapper of the day, he’s well above most of them, but that doesn’t mean I like him or think he’s good. He’s OK.
> 
> I also acknowledge I am old. I am not THAT old. I am in my late 30s, and I can easily name half a dozen rappers in their FORTIES who out-rap Drake in 2016. But that’s old for hip-hop and pop. So someone who had an 8 Track of “Rapper’s Delight” (and remembers/bought the NEW cover version of that song/cover compilation CD that came out almost 20 years ago) and listened to Run DMC in elementary school, had every EPMD and Eric. B and Rakim cassette, remembers when herbs listened to MC Hammer, when it went from “cool” to not cool to like the Fresh Prince, went through a heavy Rawkus phase, remembers when Lil Wayne was a kid and (IMHO) sounded much better, remembers when Beyonce mispronounced Kanye’s name on MTV, or when no one would sign Jay Z and later when he got clowned on for copying Puff Daddy, etc. - I am not supposed to listen to Drake, either.
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> And I’m cool with that. Drake might as well be Justin Beiber, but I’m assuming he’s a little better. It’s not a “hip hop” thing with me. It’s a young kids pop thing.

No no, I’m with you. I would have chosen the “meh” option if there was one. But he’s ok. His early stuff was better and since he has become bland and boring. What you gonna do? The reason I asked was to find out if there was a conversation to be had or if it was better to just walk because the OP just hates hip hop.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2016, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-drake/754112/52 "2016-05-08T10:51:13Z")

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> [@Tithonus](#):
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> How is this even music? Listening to Hotline Bling made me feel like a drum machine had just taken a shit on my face. And that was the best one!

I laughed a lot. Thanks. (meant sincerely)

[QUOTE=NAF1138]  
Do you generally like hip hop or R&B? If not, don’t worry about it. This isn’t for you. It’s like when classical music enthusiasts complained about Jazz in the 20, when Jazz enthusiasts complained about Rock and Roll in the 50s, etc etc.

If yes, what do you like? Can you be more specific about what it is about his music that doesn’t work for you? If it’s just drum machines, well, that’s modern music for you.

I like Drake ok. He isn’t the best (right now that’s Kendrick Lamar. Like seriously), but I like him. I like his R&B less, it’s sort of boring. Hotline Bling bored me to tears. But that’s the way modern R&B is going. You didn’t have an option that covered my feelings, so I voted that I quite liked him.  
[/QUOTE]

Pretty much agree on all counts. Drake is interesting to watch as he manages his brand much more than I care about his music. The whole concept of the Hotline Bling video - providing a steady stream of grabbable images so you could make silly, sharable Drake clips and he gets the viral buzz for it - was fascinating. A Harvard Business School case in “Marketing in the Now 101.”

ETA: I didn’t vote in the poll. There was no option for “I know of Drake and understand why Drake is popular, but don’t actively listen to him.”

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He’s no Snake. But I quite liked Drake when he was Uncharted. Seems now he’s charting…?

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I love it whenever one of his [Disney cartoons](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnSzaM8mmUU) come on.

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I voted “Drake?”, though that’s not entirely true. I’ve definitely heard his name and I’m sure I’ve heard his stuff and am just not matching the name with the songs. I generally don’t like hip hop but I think he’s more of a pop guy(?) Anyway I guess I don’t mind him or I’d probably recognize him as “the guy who does that song I hate”.

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He’s okay. I’ve liked a couple of his songs, but not enough to seek them out on youtube/spotify etc.

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He seems like a pleasant enough guy, but I really can’t stand his music. It seems like every song has a total of about 6 or 7 words that are just repeated for the entire duration of the song? It’s incredibly grating.

This is the hook for _ **Big Rings** _:

Cause I got a really big team  
And they need some really big rings  
They need some really nice things  
Better be comin’ with no strings  
Better be comin’ with no strings  
We need some really nice things  
We need some really big rings  
I got a really big team  
I got a really big team  
They need some really big rings  
They need some really nice things  
Better be comin’ with no strings  
Better be comin’ with no strings  
We need some really nice things  
We need some really big rings  
I got a really big team

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I know what he looks like, but have no clue what he sounds like or what stuff he does besides being in music. I know him as that guy I’ve heard some women talk about being really hot.

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> [@amaguri](#):
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> He seems like a pleasant enough guy, but I really can’t stand his music. It seems like every song has a total of about 6 or 7 words that are just repeated for the entire duration of the song? It’s incredibly grating.
> 
> This is the hook for _ **Big Rings** _:
> 
> Cause I got a really big team  
> And they need some really big rings  
> They need some really nice things  
> Better be comin’ with no strings  
> Better be comin’ with no strings  
> We need some really nice things  
> We need some really big rings  
> I got a really big team  
> I got a really big team  
> They need some really big rings  
> They need some really nice things  
> Better be comin’ with no strings  
> Better be comin’ with no strings  
> We need some really nice things  
> We need some really big rings  
> I got a really big team

THIS THIS THIS!!!

My oldest son thinks the Sun rises and Sets on Drake, Ugg… I cannot stand him and he has nothing of interest to contribute to the music world.

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