# What do you think about this map of the Old Man Logan setting? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 26, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this-map-of-the-old-man-logan-setting/1002078 "2024-05-26T00:00:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cmyers1980](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyers1980/32/11814_2.png) [@Cmyers1980](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cmyers1980)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this-map-of-the-old-man-logan-setting/1002078/1 "2024-05-26T00:00:47Z")
What do you think about this [map](https://i.redd.it/g592mzr9kn2d1.jpeg) of the US after the villain takeover in Old Man Logan from a technical/worldbuilding standpoint? I like the map and the setting but there are three changes I would make: 1: The villain territories would have neater and squarer borders. 2: The wasteland in the middle of the country wouldn’t be as large. It doesn’t make sense that the villains would leave that much of the country unclaimed given their resources and desires even if it meant splitting it up into smaller territories run by other villains. 3: The unclaimed territory around Michigan either wouldn’t exist or would have an official villain ruler (Wizard, Count Nefaria, Baron Mordo etc.). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this-map-of-the-old-man-logan-setting/1002078/2 "2024-05-26T01:18:03Z")
I’d rather expect that all of the borders would have that hash-marked “disputed” notation. Villains are not the sort to settle things with a handshake and a treaty and leave it at that. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this-map-of-the-old-man-logan-setting/1002078/3 "2024-05-26T01:54:53Z")
What happened to the UP? Brian ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this-map-of-the-old-man-logan-setting/1002078/4 "2024-05-26T03:07:40Z")
> [@Cmyers1980](#): > > 2: The wasteland in the middle of the country wouldn’t be as large. It doesn’t make sense that the villains would leave that much of the country unclaimed given their resources and desires even if it meant splitting it up into smaller territories run by other villains. …it’s a post apocalyptic wasteland…You think there are ample resources? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this-map-of-the-old-man-logan-setting/1002078/5 "2024-05-26T03:15:53Z")
Interesting that they labeled Charleston and Columbia but didn’t include the nearby Charleston and District of Columbia. ---
**Author:** ![Cmyers1980](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyers1980/32/11814_2.png) [@Cmyers1980](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cmyers1980)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-about-this-map-of-the-old-man-logan-setting/1002078/6 "2024-05-26T03:36:35Z")
It wasn’t a wasteland originally. It’s only shown as such decades after the villain takeover. We aren’t given an explanation as to why they never included the middle of the country in their post takeover plans or why they let it descend into Mad Max. I don’t think Alaska and Hawaii are ever mentioned either in the setting.