# What do you think of interracial couples?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 28, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331 "2012-11-28T01:55:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/121 "2012-11-30T00:43:59Z")

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> [@Zelkova](#):
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> Interracial relationships make me sad, especially when it’s a case of a person of color dating or marrying a white person. Whenever I that learn that a non-white person is in an interracial relationship with a white person—or someone else who sits “above” them on the pyramid of races—I can’t help thinking a little bit less of them. I can’t help being judgmental of the white person too. This antipathy is something that developed only within the last few years, but it’s a pretty strong one.
> 
> My distaste for mixed-race people began around the same time, but is even stronger. It’s hard for me to think of people I know to be mixed race with any positivity, and I’ve had some really awful, inhumane thoughts about mixed-race children and adults.
> 
> That said, I don’t harass interracial couples or mixed-race people. I don’t shoot nasty looks, I don’t stare, I don’t shake my head. I don’t move away when they stand or sit near me…well, sometimes I do move away. But I don’t attack, either physically or verbally, in real life or online. I also don’t believe that it’s wrong or sick or unnatural for a person to date or marry outside their race, or that this is something that should ever be outlawed. It just makes me sad.

If you don’t think interracial relationships are wrong, what the fuck was all this?

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/122 "2012-11-30T00:59:49Z")

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> [@Zelkova](#):
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> Interracial relationships make me sad, especially when it’s a case of a person of color dating or marrying a white person. Whenever I that learn that a non-white person is in an interracial relationship with a white person—or someone else who sits “above” them on the pyramid of races—I can’t help thinking a little bit less of them. I can’t help being judgmental of the white person too. This antipathy is something that developed only within the last few years, but it’s a pretty strong one.
> 
> My distaste for mixed-race people began around the same time, but is even stronger. It’s hard for me to think of people I know to be mixed race with any positivity, and I’ve had some really awful, inhumane thoughts about mixed-race children and adults.
> 
> That said, I don’t harass interracial couples or mixed-race people. I don’t shoot nasty looks, I don’t stare, I don’t shake my head. I don’t move away when they stand or sit near me…well, sometimes I do move away. But I don’t attack, either physically or verbally, in real life or online. I also don’t believe that it’s wrong or sick or unnatural for a person to date or marry outside their race, or that this is something that should ever be outlawed. It just makes me sad.

I never thought I’d see the day when someone around here would have the balls to express themselves about race in anything but a_falling all over themselves to be the most color blind_ way \*. Aside from trolls that is, which i don’t think you are. I can’t say I share your views, but I’d be very interested to hear them.

- I’m not saying that anyone here lies about their views on race, just that we all sometimes go a little overboard with the political corectness.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/123 "2012-11-30T01:12:16Z")

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> [@Zelkova](#):
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> Interracial relationships make me sad, especially when it’s a case of a person of color dating or marrying a white person. Whenever I that learn that a non-white person is in an interracial relationship with a white person—or someone else who sits “above” them on the pyramid of races—I can’t help thinking a little bit less of them. I can’t help being judgmental of the white person too. This antipathy is something that developed only within the last few years, but it’s a pretty strong one.
> 
> My distaste for mixed-race people began around the same time, but is even stronger. It’s hard for me to think of people I know to be mixed race with any positivity, and I’ve had some really awful, inhumane thoughts about mixed-race children and adults.
> 
> That said, I don’t harass interracial couples or mixed-race people. I don’t shoot nasty looks, I don’t stare, I don’t shake my head. I don’t move away when they stand or sit near me…well, sometimes I do move away. But I don’t attack, either physically or verbally, in real life or online. I also don’t believe that it’s wrong or sick or unnatural for a person to date or marry outside their race, or that this is something that should ever be outlawed. It just makes me sad.

I never thought I’d see the day when someone around here would have the balls to express themselves about race in anything but a_falling all over themselves to be the most color blind_ way \*. Aside from trolls that is, which i don’t think you are. I can’t say I share your views, but I’d be very interested to hear them.

- I’m not saying that anyone here lies about their views on race, just that we all sometimes go a little overboard with the political corectness.

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**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/124 "2012-11-30T01:12:51Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> - I’m not saying that anyone here lies about their views on race, just that we all sometimes go a little overboard with the political corectness.

Not me, I say things that could be construed as offensive all the time, here and IRL. Somehow it works out, but it’s definitely not because I go around “trying” to be PC.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/125 "2012-11-30T01:19:40Z")

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> [@Blackberry](#):
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> Not me, I say things that could be construed as offensive all the time, here and IRL. Somehow it works out, but it’s definitely not because I go around “trying” to be PC.

Then I guess I’m not talking about you, _wabbit_ 😛

But seriously, I know I find myself measuring my words around here because, let’s face it, we are an ultraliberal group for the most part, and nothing gets the collective dander up more than the seeming appearance of racism.

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**Author:** ![ReticulatingSplines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@ReticulatingSplines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReticulatingSplines)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/126 "2012-11-30T01:30:12Z")

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> [@Zelkova](#):
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> Interracial relationships make me sad, especially when it’s a case of a person of color dating or marrying a white person. Whenever I that learn that a non-white person is in an interracial relationship with a white person—or someone else who sits “above” them on the pyramid of races—I can’t help thinking a little bit less of them. I can’t help being judgmental of the white person too. This antipathy is something that developed only within the last few years, but it’s a pretty strong one.
> 
> My distaste for mixed-race people began around the same time, but is even stronger. It’s hard for me to think of people I know to be mixed race with any positivity, and I’ve had some really awful, inhumane thoughts about mixed-race children and adults.
> 
> That said, I don’t harass interracial couples or mixed-race people. I don’t shoot nasty looks, I don’t stare, I don’t shake my head. I don’t move away when they stand or sit near me…well, sometimes I do move away. But I don’t attack, either physically or verbally, in real life or online. I also don’t believe that it’s wrong or sick or unnatural for a person to date or marry outside their race, or that this is something that should ever be outlawed. It just makes me sad.

I respect your saying this. It’s certainly preferable to paying lip service on the Internet and then yelling at me from your car on the way home. Not you specifically; I mean others of your ilk.

I find the attitude somewhat reprehensible, but to each his own.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/127 "2012-11-30T01:33:03Z")

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Yes, how perceptive of you - I am dating a white man so I can find an easier way to scramble up the pyramid of races. Sleeping my way to the top! I don’t know how I live with myself.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/128 "2012-11-30T01:37:46Z")

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> [@HazelNutCoffee](#):
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> Yes, how perceptive of you - I am dating a white man so I can find an easier way to scramble up the pyramid of races. Sleeping my way to the top! I don’t know how I live with myself.

Actually since you are in Korea, I assume the opposite is in effect. Your boyfriend is the one looking to increase his local status. Go you for helping that guy out! 🙂

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/129 "2012-11-30T01:41:17Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Actually since you are in Korea, I assume the opposite is in effect. Your boyfriend is the one looking to increase his local status. Go you for helping that guy out! 🙂

Ha! I knew he had an ulterior motive.

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**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/130 "2012-11-30T01:48:32Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> Then I guess I’m not talking about you, _wabbit_ 😛

You people don’t even blackberry right; I’m a refreshing fruit, nothing more.

> [@](#):
>
> But seriously, I know I find myself measuring my words around here because, let’s face it, we are an ultraliberal group for the most part, and nothing gets the collective dander up more than the seeming appearance of racism.

I grew up in a community of white Catholic Republicans, I know all about wording one’s bigotry carefully, lol. Me, I’ll say what I think. I’ve said the exact same things to my WASC (Catholic) family as I’ve said to my I-fucking-hate-crackers black dude. I just don’t see how it’s that hard to not be considered racist if you aren’t.

ETA: Not trying to imply you’re a bigot and wording it carefully.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/131 "2012-11-30T01:50:36Z")

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The last time I heard much about the issue was back when Nicole Brown Simpson was killed. Out of nowhere, I heard a bunch of “what was that white girl doing with that black guy” kind of comments.

By the way, I am not part of an interracial couple, but we are white and our kids are Korean, so we definitely think about it.

We really don’t get many stares having non-white kids, though. Maybe when the kids are older.

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**Author:** ![IceQube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@IceQube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IceQube)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/132 "2012-11-30T01:53:17Z")

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> [@Zelkova](#):
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> Interracial relationships make me sad, especially when it’s a case of a person of color dating or marrying a white person. Whenever I that learn that a non-white person is in an interracial relationship with a white person—or someone else who sits “above” them on the pyramid of races—I can’t help thinking a little bit less of them. I can’t help being judgmental of the white person too. This antipathy is something that developed only within the last few years, but it’s a pretty strong one.
> 
> My distaste for mixed-race people began around the same time, but is even stronger. It’s hard for me to think of people I know to be mixed race with any positivity, and I’ve had some really awful, inhumane thoughts about mixed-race children and adults.
> 
> That said, I don’t harass interracial couples or mixed-race people. I don’t shoot nasty looks, I don’t stare, I don’t shake my head. I don’t move away when they stand or sit near me…well, sometimes I do move away. But I don’t attack, either physically or verbally, in real life or online. I also don’t believe that it’s wrong or sick or unnatural for a person to date or marry outside their race, or that this is something that should ever be outlawed. It just makes me sad.

The hell? :dubious: :smack:

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/133 "2012-11-30T02:01:07Z")

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> [@Zelkova](#):
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> Interracial relationships make me sad, especially when it’s a case of a person of color dating or marrying a white person. Whenever I that learn that a non-white person is in an interracial relationship with a white person—or someone else who sits “above” them on the pyramid of races—I can’t help thinking a little bit less of them. I can’t help being judgmental of the white person too. This antipathy is something that developed only within the last few years, but it’s a pretty strong one.
> 
> My distaste for mixed-race people began around the same time, but is even stronger. It’s hard for me to think of people I know to be mixed race with any positivity, and I’ve had some really awful, inhumane thoughts about mixed-race children and adults.
> 
> That said, I don’t harass interracial couples or mixed-race people. I don’t shoot nasty looks, I don’t stare, I don’t shake my head. I don’t move away when they stand or sit near me…well, sometimes I do move away. But I don’t attack, either physically or verbally, in real life or online. I also don’t believe that it’s wrong or sick or unnatural for a person to date or marry outside their race, or that this is something that should ever be outlawed. It just makes me sad.

My grandma thought like this. I don’t know when she was born exactly, probably about 1910 in white homogeneous Scotland.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/134 "2012-11-30T02:08:32Z")

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> [@Blackberry](#):
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> You people don’t even blackberry right; I’m a refreshing fruit, nothing more.  
> I grew up in a community of white Catholic Republicans, I know all about wording one’s bigotry carefully, lol. Me, I’ll say what I think. I’ve said the exact same things to my WASC (Catholic) family as I’ve said to my I-fucking-hate-crackers black dude. I just don’t see how it’s that hard to not be considered racist if you aren’t.
> 
> ETA: Not trying to imply you’re a bigot and wording it carefully.

As do I, IRL. Yet around here, any question that is race related seems like an invitation for a pile on.

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**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/135 "2012-11-30T02:17:48Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> As do I, IRL. Yet around here, any question that is race related seems like an invitation for a pile on.

I don’t know, I’ve said plenty of non-“kum-ba-yah” type stuff about race here and never felt piled on.

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**Author:** ![Zelkova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/34f0e0/32.png) [@Zelkova](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zelkova)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/136 "2012-11-30T02:49:56Z")

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> [@Blackberry](#):
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> And I thought I had issues.

I definitely do have issues.

> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> If you don’t think interracial relationships are wrong, what the fuck was all this?

I really don’t think they’re wrong. And as I said, I never felt this way till recently, so a reversal of my feelings is probably possible.

I think it was mostly contrariness that reshaped my view. There’s the common belief that racial mixing is genetically and culturally ruinous, but there’s another common belief that the interracial relationship is the most beautiful and beneficial of all relationships—the endpoint of human evolution, the truest measure of social progression, something we should all cheer over and applaud. I got tired of hearing that.

> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> I never thought I’d see the day when someone around here would have the balls to express themselves about race in anything but a_falling all over themselves to be the most color blind_ way \*. Aside from trolls that is, which i don’t think you are. I can’t say I share your views, but I’d be very interested to hear them.
> 
> - I’m not saying that anyone here lies about their views on race, just that we all sometimes go a little overboard with the political corectness.

No, no troll.

My views? I wasn’t overstating when I wrote of my “inhumane” thoughts about mixed-race children. It’s the best thing for me to not elaborate on these thoughts too much, especially since many involve specific people, but I can say that it’s become hard for me to even think of them as people. I don’t see them as subhumans, though, more as beings floating outside the borders of humanity. I’m not so far gone that I don’t realize that they _are_ people and that they _are_ fully human, but it honestly is hard for me to see them as people in the same way I see monoracial people (of all races) as people. I _know_ they’re people, but I \*feel \*otherwise. I wouldn’t befriend a mixed-race person or adopt a mixed-race child. I try to avoid them entirely in my social life, and I feel twinges of uneasiness whenever I do have to interact with a mixed-race person.

But again, these are fairly new feelings. Before about 2007, multiracial people were just regular people to me, and I felt no resentment toward interracial couples. It’s just this strange thing that’s intensified in the last year of two, and it might also be something I should get some professional help for.

> [@ReticulatingSplines](#):
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> I respect your saying this. It’s certainly preferable to paying lip service on the Internet and then yelling at me from your car on the way home. Not you specifically; I mean others of your ilk.
> 
> I find the attitude somewhat reprehensible, but to each his own.

I get that.

> [@HazelNutCoffee](#):
>
> Yes, how perceptive of you - I am dating a white man so I can find an easier way to scramble up the pyramid of races. Sleeping my way to the top! I don’t know how I live with myself.

It’s an unfair and twisted way of thinking, I know. But to defend myself just a little, it’s not that I believe that any given person in an IR is motivated by reasons like these. It’s more that the existence of such people—even if they actually form a minority of the total number of people in interracial relationships—has infected my opinion of all people who date interracially. I know my feelings are irrational.

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**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/137 "2012-11-30T02:55:29Z")

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Recommending counseling is overdone and shit but, dude. Seek it.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/138 "2012-11-30T03:05:58Z")

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> [@Zelkova](#):
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> I definitely do have issues.
> 
> My views? I wasn’t overstating when I wrote of my “inhumane” thoughts about mixed-race children. It’s the best thing for me to not elaborate on these thoughts too much, especially since many involve specific people, but I can say that it’s become hard for me to even think of them as people. I don’t see them as subhumans, though, more as beings floating outside the borders of humanity. I’m not so far gone that I don’t realize that they _are_ people and that they _are_ fully human, but it honestly is hard for me to see them as people in the same way I see monoracial people (of all races) as people. I _know_ they’re people, but I \*feel \*otherwise. I wouldn’t befriend a mixed-race person or adopt a mixed-race child. I try to avoid them entirely in my social life, and I feel twinges of uneasiness whenever I do have to interact with a mixed-race person.
> 
> But again, these are fairly new feelings. Before about 2007, multiracial people were just regular people to me, and I felt no resentment toward interracial couples. It’s just this strange thing that’s intensified in the last year of two, and it might also be something I should get some professional help for.
> 
> I get that.
> 
> .

I was okay with your original post, but now you’re talking about my kids. Your views about “mixed race” children make me sad.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/139 "2012-11-30T03:21:13Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> What is this, 1970 or something? 😕

Again, I think that if you have to think about what you think about interracial couples, then you have racial issues. Sorry.

And you should have another _think_ coming.

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-interracial-couples/642331/140 "2012-11-30T04:12:22Z")

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Meh.

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