# What do you think of straight girls who kiss each other...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 8, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132 "2009-06-08T19:29:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/41 "2009-06-09T02:35:55Z")

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> [@CC](#):
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> Yeah, you’re not supposed to get a boner reading in G.Q.

Well, hey, you’d have to be a robot not to get turn on by that thread about the pan fried semen.

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**Author:** ![Starring\_Emma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@Starring\_Emma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starring_Emma)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/42 "2009-06-09T02:59:15Z")

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> [@anson2995](#):
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> Me thinks you are a young-un.

…and you think that because I listen to Katy Perry?

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**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/43 "2009-06-09T03:13:48Z")

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Well, not just because of that! but really…I’m 52. I’ve never ever seen women my age doing this to get the attention of men! Okay, i don’t hang out in bars, but I think this is much more a recent phenomenom amongst the young.

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**Author:** ![Kayeby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@Kayeby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kayeby)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/44 "2009-06-09T03:34:47Z")

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> [@Cat\_Fight](#):
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> Imagine it? I’ve seen it. It was supposed to be ‘in exchange’ for seeing two girls make out, but they decided not to. Just as seeing two girls who aren’t necessarily lesbians is hot to some boys and girls, seeing two otherwise straight boys kiss is pretty hot.

My sister and her group of friends (in their early 20s) do this. Right down to the “exchange” for seeing two girls do it and then the girls backing out.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/45 "2009-06-09T03:36:21Z")

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> [@Starring\_Emma](#):
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> …and you think that because I listen to Katy Perry?

No, because you think her song is what made it popular.

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**Author:** ![Starring\_Emma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@Starring\_Emma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starring_Emma)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/46 "2009-06-09T03:47:16Z")

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> [@kittenblue](#):
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> Well, not just because of that! but really…I’m 52. I’ve never ever seen women my age doing this to get the attention of men! Okay, i don’t hang out in bars, but I think this is much more a recent phenomenom amongst the young.

Yeah… I don’t think 52 yr. old women are kissing each other to get the boys to notice them.

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**Author:** ![Starring\_Emma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@Starring\_Emma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starring_Emma)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/47 "2009-06-09T03:53:33Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> No, because you think her song is what made it popular.

I think it made it more popular.

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**Author:** ![Idlewild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8491ac/32.png) [@Idlewild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idlewild)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/48 "2009-06-09T04:39:47Z")

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As for putatively straight guys engaging in displays of intimacy, there’s plenty of that to go around in the homosocial field of professional sports.

In fact, this last couple of months I’ve watched all the handshake lines of the Stanley Cup playoff eliminations just to watch all that cuddling and butt-patting. Mmm. You go, guys.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/49 "2009-06-09T05:10:12Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> “I know Big Vinny said he was giving me the kiss of death. But I still think he was gay.”

Either way you’re lucky to be alive, man.

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**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/50 "2009-06-09T05:20:08Z")

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> [@Cat\_Fight](#):
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> Attention whorish, clichéd, usually sloppy and slightly embarrassing,

Took the words right off my keyboard.

There was a time when this was edgy and hot - around the time of the first “I Kissed a Girl” song. That would be (checking Wikipedia) – good God, 14 years ago!

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/51 "2009-06-09T12:15:51Z")

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> [@Starring\_Emma](#):
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> I think it made it more popular.

I doubt it, it’s been going on a long time.

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**Author:** ![Arglefraster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@Arglefraster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arglefraster)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/52 "2009-06-09T12:56:10Z")

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> [@Electric\_Warrior](#):
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> As a bisexual girl, I can’t really object to straight girls making out on an aesthetic basis, but it can be a little frustrating.

Yep. Twice that I can recall I met a hot girl at a club who was all over me. Then when I tried to get her number she made it clear that she was just doing it to get guys’ attention and assumed I was too. The first girl was apologetic enough for giving me the wrong idea. The second girl laughed at me. ☹

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**Author:** ![anson2995](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@anson2995](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anson2995)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/53 "2009-06-09T13:33:40Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> [QUOTE=Starring\_Emma]
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> …and you think that because I listen to Katy Perry?

No, because you think her song is what made it popular.  
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Right. Jill Sobule had a hit song with the exact same title 15 years ago, which jump started this exact same discussion.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/54 "2009-06-09T15:52:44Z")

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must read second page before posting same thing for fourth time…

Although yeah, I think you’re showing your youth by listening to Katy Perry. =P

In all seriousness, this has been going on in vague cycles since the 70s at minimum–my mom complained about seeing it in bars near Navy bases when dad was in the service during the latter half of Vietnam.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/55 "2009-06-09T16:06:27Z")

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> [@Cat\_Fight](#):
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> A lot has been made about ‘barsexualism’ and how obnoxious it is… and it is, for the most part. Attention whorish, clichéd, usually sloppy and slightly embarrassing, gives guys the sense that real lesbians are fictional and just need a real man.

It might be all of those things, but that doesn’t mean they should stop doing it.  
Please.

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**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/56 "2009-06-09T16:34:40Z")

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What do I think? I think, “How do I _know_ they’re straight girls? They probably _are_ lesbians, in which case I’m not going to do anything so crude as to cheer, ogle, or hit on either one of them ever again. I’ll just write 'em both off.” So in my case, I think that attention-getting tactic is a failure.

Don’t women use sexuality to manipulate men enough already? Jesus. I’m sick of it.

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**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/57 "2009-06-09T16:36:33Z")

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I dunno. I knew two women who did it -only- at social get-togethers in order to make one of the pair’s boyfriend hot-and-bothered. Sure, fine, I’m glad that’s a turn-on for him, but … I dunno. There was something very false and forced about it, and it just sorta seemed distasteful to me. Maybe I have more of an emotional (or at least attraction) criteria for kissing?

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**Author:** ![Lucky\_13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucky_13/32/13209_2.png) [@Lucky\_13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucky_13)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/58 "2009-06-10T03:04:57Z")

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> [@anson2995](#):
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> Right. Jill Sobule had a hit song with the exact same title 15 years ago, which jump started this exact same discussion.

No, I’m pretty sure same-gender kissing among heterosexuals was a pop-culture phenomenon earlier than that. I seem to remember reading about Red Hot Chili Peppers concerts in the early 90s where Anthony would kiss Flea or somebody just to get a rise out of the audience. Or maybe it was Jane’s Addiction. Either way, I still wouldn’t have been one to complain, were I in the audience at that particular show.

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**Author:** ![Psiharis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Psiharis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Psiharis)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/59 "2009-06-10T11:05:01Z")

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Less obnoxious than people who assume that two girls kissing in public **must** be doing it for attention, because we all know girls don’t actually do anything for themselves, only for the approval of onlookers.

Unless I had really compelling evidence otherwise, I’d be inclined to believe they’re at least a little bi-curious and taking advantage of an opportunity to experiment without having to adopt any labels they’re not comfortable with. I try not to make snap judgments about strangers, call me crazy.

I’m sure it has happened that two 100% straight girls have been convinced to kiss each other for the amusement of an audience, but these days, where do you even find two 100% straight girls? How much do you really know about what they’re doing in private? :dubious:

And no, I’ve never done this and wouldn’t care to kiss anybody I wasn’t attracted to, irrespective of gender. And as much as I like watching two guys kiss, it doesn’t appeal to me when there’s obviously no chemistry at all. I guess that’s part of my problem with the premise – if they can actually make it look good, how fake is it really? And if they can’t, I have more distaste for the guys who’d egg them on than the girls for going along with it “for attention.” Isn’t that why a lot of people go to bars? 😕

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**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-straight-girls-who-kiss-each-other/499132/60 "2009-06-10T16:02:36Z")

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Interresting response, which makes sense. I guess in my (observed) situation mentioned above, it wasn’t girl A kissing girl B, with chemistry between A and B. It was girl A kissing girl B, with chemistry between girl A and boy C. If anything, the underlying feeling of A saying “I’m using you to get my boyfriend hot” just came off as really skeevy.

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