# What do you think of the math here? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 18, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-math-here/752595 "2016-04-18T20:54:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-math-here/752595/21 "2016-04-19T18:18:14Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Meanwhile, I can only imagine the articles that will come out if Clinton doesn’t clinch the nomination with pledged delegates (and she probably won’t) after the final vote (DC, I think): > > “Here is a list of the phone numbers of the Democratic members of Congress; call them and tell them that if they don’t vote for Sanders at the convention, they shouldn’t count on your vote at their next election (which, except for a few Senators, is in, or even before, November)” > > or even: > > “Here is a list of the hotel rooms where the Superdelegates will be staying…” > > . The Bernie Bros have already done those two things. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-math-here/752595/22 "2016-04-19T18:51:52Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > The Bernie Bros have already done those two things. I had to look up “Bernie Bros” - they’re a thing now? (And I hesitate to think what any female ones are called. Then again, I wouldn’t be surprised to see, "Bernie Bros before Hillary **AHEM** I’ll go quietly…) Anyway, while I have only heard rumors about the second one (besides, I doubt they have actually assigned hotel rooms yet - hotels, yes, but not matching specific delegates to specific rooms), I have started to see the first one become a Facebook meme, complete with singling out specific people, usually ones from states (a) that Sanders “won” but who have already made their support for Clinton public, and (b) that have not had their Congressional primary yet (some states have separate votes for President and for everybody else). ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-math-here/752595/23 "2016-04-19T18:59:46Z")
My heavens! Imagine people targeting lobby efforts against elected officials for the political decisions they make! Where will it end? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-math-here/752595/24 "2016-04-19T19:14:47Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > I had to look up “Bernie Bros” - they’re a thing now? (And I hesitate to think what any female ones are called. Then again, I wouldn’t be surprised to see, "Bernie Bros before Hillary **AHEM** I’ll go quietly…) > > Anyway, while I have only heard rumors about the second one (besides, I doubt they have actually assigned hotel rooms yet - hotels, yes, but not matching specific delegates to specific rooms), I have started to see the first one become a Facebook meme, complete with singling out specific people, usually ones from states (a) that Sanders “won” but who have already made their support for Clinton public, and (b) that have not had their Congressional primary yet (some states have separate votes for President and for everybody else). Yes, they are a thing. Well, not quite hotel rooms, but home addresses, and personal contact info. [http://wthitv.com/2016/02/22/sanders-supporters-use-email-to-attack-indiana-super-delegates/](http://wthitv.com/2016/02/22/sanders-supporters-use-email-to-attack-indiana-super-delegates/) > **[Sanders' supporters are lashing out, but here's how they might be hurting his...](https://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-bernie-sanders-supporters-20160415-story.html)** > > Shawn Bagley thought he knew what he was getting into when he was elected to become one of California’s so-called superdelegates to the Democratic National Convention, and energetic debate with other activists was part of it. _There is the activist in Chicago who unleashed a movement to “harass” superdelegates backing Clinton, with an online “hit list” complete with delegate phone numbers and some home addresses._ [http://americablog.com/2016/04/sanders-supporter-publishes-hit-list-super-delegates-including-home-addresses-women.html](http://americablog.com/2016/04/sanders-supporter-publishes-hit-list-super-delegates-including-home-addresses-women.html) ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-math-here/752595/25 "2016-04-19T19:16:42Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > My heavens! Imagine people targeting lobby efforts against elected officials for the political decisions they make! Where will it end? Lobby efforts are one thing. Threats and personal attacks are another. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-math-here/752595/26 "2016-04-19T19:25:16Z")
Indeed they are but I’ve seen Clintonistas being about as equally affronted by Bernie Bros threatening to primary out super delegates. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-math-here/752595/27 "2016-04-19T20:19:07Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Indeed they are but I’ve seen Clintonistas being about as equally affronted by Bernie Bros threatening to primary out super delegates. ??? Huh? 😕 So the Bernie Bros are personally attacking, targeting and threatening the Clinton Supers, so it’s unfair for the Clintonistas to be upset about it? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-math-here/752595/28 "2016-04-19T20:39:21Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > ??? Huh? 😕 So the Bernie Bros are personally attacking, targeting and threatening the Clinton Supers, so it’s unfair for the Clintonistas to be upset about it? Read what I said again. Threatening to primary out Clinton’s super delegates is not “personally threatening” someone. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-math-here/752595/29 "2016-04-19T21:14:12Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Read what I said again. Threatening to primary out Clinton’s super delegates is not “personally threatening” someone. Posting a “online “hit list” complete with delegate phone numbers and some home addresses” certainly is, especially when he actually used a \*gun target \*motif. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-math-here/752595/30 "2016-04-19T21:58:09Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Posting a “online “hit list” complete with delegate phone numbers and some home addresses” certainly is, especially when he actually used a \*gun target \*motif. Quite a stirring symbol of Integrity and Good Character, that. (Does Sanders see no reason to rein in this type of thing? You’d think he’d at least bother to have one of his top aides denounce it.) ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-math-here/752595/31 "2016-04-19T23:07:08Z")
Do you have a cite for all that? [The NPR story](http://www.npr.org/2016/04/09/473398688/sanders-supporter-creates-superdelegate-hit-list-superdelegates-not-amused) I read doesn’t mention home addresses and says this: > [@](#): > > Thayer, who answered questions over email, later changed the name simply to “Superdelegate List.” > > “The intent of the branding was to parody the famous Clinton Hit List, this was a tongue–in–cheek attempt at parody which I thought would encourage resharing,” Thayer said. “The branding began to detract from the campaign’s purpose, so it wasn’t a hard decision to make the change once it was clear it wasn’t working.” > > Thayer’s goal with the site was to make it easier for voters to get in touch with superdelegates. Also, no gun target motiff. Arrows and a stags head. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-math-here/752595/32 "2016-04-19T23:37:36Z")
On review, I guess that’s obviously a donkey not a stag. lol. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-math-here/752595.md?page=1)