# What do you think of the Vikings NOW SeekingTruth? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 21, 2003, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254 "2003-12-21T02:55:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![eli\_the\_fanatic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ccd318/32.png) [@eli\_the\_fanatic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eli_the_fanatic)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/21 "2003-12-21T20:58:33Z")
The only thing I don’t understand is people from Minnesota rooting for the Yankees against the Twins. It’s just so… evil. ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/22 "2003-12-21T21:18:10Z")
Or, some of us live in Kansas City, are natives, and _still_ don’t care for the Chiefs; which has nothing to do with acting superior or teenage angst. Sometimes it’s possible to just not like a hometown team. Aside from which, fans from Kansas City and its large, surrounding metro area, tend to be pretty fair-weathered for both the Royals and the Chiefs. When the teams lose a lot during the season, attendance drops rapidly (although I believe that the Chiefs attendance holds up better than the Royals’), and familiar jokes of: > [@](#): > > “Did you hear what happened to the guy who left two Chiefs/Royals tickets on his dashboard?” > > “No, what?” > > “Someone broke into his car and, when the guy got back, there were four more tickets!” abound. Attendance picks up quite a bit when the teams do well. We definitely don’t have any Chicago Cub fan loyalty here (with the exception of individuals such as **BubbaDog** ). Rabid fan loyalty usually manifests itself in the presence of the local university teams such as KU, KSU and MU. ---
**Author:** ![Sweet\_Sota\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@Sweet\_Sota\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Sota_Girl)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/23 "2003-12-21T22:32:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by eli\_the\_fanatic \* > \*\*The only thing I don’t understand is people from Minnesota rooting for the Yankees against the Twins. It’s just so… evil. \*\* I was at two of those play-off games, and the Yankee fans in the crowd did seem like some sort of blasphemy. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/24 "2003-12-21T22:52:54Z")
Kansas City Royals? 😕 They’re still around? ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/25 "2003-12-21T22:59:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Airman Doors, USAF \* > \*\ ***Creative\_Munster** , is it now a rule that you have to like the team from the city you live in at all times? Just wondering, because if that’s the case I can never live anywhere but Pittsburgh. \*\* No, but you should pick the team you grew up cheering for. And that should be the team from your childhood hometown. Of course, if you moved around a lot or something then all bets are off. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/26 "2003-12-21T23:05:09Z")
> [@](#): > > Creative\_Munster, is it now a rule that you have to like the team from the city you live in at all times? Just wondering, because if that’s the case I can never live anywhere but Pittsburgh. Fuck, I’d have to be a _Raiders_ fan. Ewwwwwwwwww. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/27 "2003-12-21T23:08:19Z")
Well, maybe the Super Bowl just isn’t for us. It does attract a lot of attention, so people start thinking maybe you think you’re better than them, and all. Plus, I was living in Mpls when the Twins won the World Series, and all heck broke loose! There were people honking car horns at _one o’clock in the morning!_ No one can guess how many people went to work sleepy headed, and drank twice as much coffee as usual, none of it de-caff! Do we really want a repeat of that sort of unbridled, pagan debauchery again? I think not. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2003, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/28 "2003-12-21T23:34:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Neurotik \* > \*\*No, but you should pick the team you grew up cheering for. And that should be the team from your childhood hometown. \*\* NO WAY! I grew up in St. Louis watching the football Cardinals. I would NEVER route for a team owned by Bidwell. A good year is when the Cards lose Ten Plus. Of course, since we’re only talking about _professional_ teams then its not even necessary to discuss the Cardinals. Bubba ---
**Author:** ![eli\_the\_fanatic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ccd318/32.png) [@eli\_the\_fanatic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eli_the_fanatic)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/29 "2003-12-22T00:43:05Z")
The St. Louis Cardinals??? We’re talking about FOOTBALL, BubbaDog. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/30 "2003-12-22T00:48:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Neurotik \* > \*\*No, but you should pick the team you grew up cheering for. And that should be the team from your childhood hometown. Of course, if you moved around a lot or something then all bets are off. \*\* What if your hometown/state doesn’t have a football team? Are you banned from being a fan? ---
**Author:** ![Sweet\_Sota\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@Sweet\_Sota\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Sota_Girl)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/31 "2003-12-22T05:18:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elucidator \* > \*\*Well, maybe the Super Bowl just isn’t for us. It does attract a lot of attention, so people start thinking maybe you think you’re better than them, and all. Plus, I was living in Mpls when the Twins won the World Series, and all heck broke loose! There were people honking car horns at _one o’clock in the morning!_ No one can guess how many people went to work sleepy headed, and drank twice as much coffee as usual, none of it de-caff! > > Do we really want a repeat of that sort of unbridled, pagan debauchery again? I think not. \*\* Not to mention what happened when the Gophers hockey team took the championship… _twice_. Wasn’t pretty. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/32 "2003-12-22T14:29:07Z")
Outside agitators. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/33 "2003-12-22T14:33:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by eli\_the\_fanatic \* > \*\*The St. Louis Cardinals??? We’re talking about FOOTBALL, BubbaDog. \*\* Whoosh or stupid? Whoosh response: Ha Ha **eli**. Good One Stupid Question Resonse: The Phoenix Cardinals (NFL Semi-Pro Football Team) were [moved](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=4265456#post4265455) from St. Louis to Phoenix when the people of St. Louis became very tired of Bidwell’s refusal to fund a pro team. After kicking Bidwell and his semi-pro team out of St. Louis the fine citizen’s (many of them being relatives of Bubbadog) aquired the mighty Rams who took their righteous place in history. Glad to help Bubbadog Tail’s Wagging again ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/34 "2003-12-22T14:46:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Little Miss Attitude \* > \*\*Not to mention what happened when the Gophers hockey team took the championship… _twice_. Wasn’t pretty. 😉 \*\* Well, at least it wasn’t the Badgers. If they won, their popularity would absolutely mushroom. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/35 "2003-12-22T14:48:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Homebrew \* > \*\*And here I thought there was going to be a discussion about how the Viking were really more farmers and fishers than random pillagers. \*\* And I thought it would be about how they’ve given up raping and pillaging in order to seek truth, wisdom, and enlightenment. ---
**Author:** ![eli\_the\_fanatic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ccd318/32.png) [@eli\_the\_fanatic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eli_the_fanatic)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/36 "2003-12-22T14:51:02Z")
I remember the St Louis Football Cardinals, BubbaDog. It was a ha ha. (One wonders if a live cardinal bird has ever set one yellow foot in the state of Arizona…) Why, I even know that the current Baltimore Orioles team used the be the St Louis Browns (who were about as good as the football Cardinals, and once let a midget play just for the laffs). But what are these Rams you speak of? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/37 "2003-12-22T14:52:34Z")
Sven the Unready: “OK, guys, one more time and get it straight this time! Its ravage, plunder, pillage, rape…and _then_ burn!” ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/38 "2003-12-22T16:10:46Z")
Ummm, guys? Guys? Am I the only long suffering Vikings fan here that thinks it’s a bit too early to gloat? The cards didn’t fall our way this weekend, so the playoff berth isn’t clinched. **How the Vikings can make the playoffs** [ul]If Seattle loses to San Francisco. The Vikings would be the wild-card. If the Seahawks win, the Vikings must win the NFC North to make the playoffs. Beat Arizona. That would clinch the NFC North and a playoff berth. If the Packers lose twice. If the Packers lose tonight against Oakland _and_ lose to Denver, the Vikings would clinch the division even if they lose to Arizona. Or they could win a tiebreaker. If the Packers split and the Vikings lose, the teams would go to the fifth tiebreaker, strength of victory. The win percentage of teams Vikings have beaten is .481; the win percentage of teams Packers have beaten is .441. [/ul]If the Packers lose tonight, I’m pretty sure we’re in (but that relies on Denver’s final record and K.C.'s final record, strenght of schedule, and high math). We may then gloat. But I’ve been a Vikings fan for too long to have any confidence either way. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/39 "2003-12-22T16:17:56Z")
Doesn’t matter. Its only a question of what point in time The Curse takes effect. PS: “long-suffering” and “Vikings fan” is redundundant. ---
**Author:** ![eli\_the\_fanatic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ccd318/32.png) [@eli\_the\_fanatic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eli_the_fanatic)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2003, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254/40 "2003-12-22T16:34:35Z")
I am only gloating about the Vikings beating the Chiefs. I think it is not too early to gloat about that. My opinion is this: If the Vikings can’t beat the Cardinals with the playoffs on the line, they don’t deserve to be in the playoffs. They have more than enough talent to beat that team, and more than enough motivation. There’s no way I can play out other scenarios where they go to the playoffs. Just beat the goddamned Cardinals, is what I say. And it’s what they’re saying, too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-of-the-vikings-now-seekingtruth/220254.md?page=3)