# What do you think the Cosby verdict will be?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 15, 2017, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029 "2017-06-15T13:16:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/1 "2017-06-15T13:16:27Z")

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It’s day 4 of the jury deliberations in the Bill Cosby sexual assault case. It is anticipated that the jury may be close to a verdict today.

So far the questions from the jury to the judge have centered around the victim’s testimony and Cosby’s statements made in a previous deposition.

So predict the verdict.

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/2 "2017-06-15T13:29:52Z")

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With the time that has passed and the questions they are asking, my money would be on hung jury. With the majority being for conviction.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/3 "2017-06-15T13:34:31Z")

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Will Cosby go straight to jail if he’s convicted?

It seems like they are heading towards a hung jury. It could easily go either way.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/4 "2017-06-15T15:47:44Z")

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> **[Jury in Bill Cosby Trial Still Deadlocked as Fourth Day Ends (Published 2017)](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/15/arts/television/bill-cosby-trial-day-9.html)**
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> The deliberations ended in the sexual assault trial with the jury reporting that it still is unable to reach a verdict on any count after some 40 hours.

Jury reports that it is deadlocked. Judge asks the jury to continue deliberations.

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/5 "2017-06-16T01:43:50Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Will Cosby go straight to jail if he’s convicted?

I doubt it. I would say probably continued on bail pending sentencing.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/6 "2017-06-16T01:57:51Z")

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I voted hung jury.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/7 "2017-06-16T01:59:50Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> I voted hung jury.

Me too.

But they just got an Allen charge this morning, so maybe not. . .

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/8 "2017-06-16T02:15:30Z")

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In pretty sure he is guilty but I am equally sure the state cant prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Not Guilty.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/9 "2017-06-16T02:27:28Z")

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I’d hope guilty, but it sounds like a hung jury.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/10 "2017-06-16T02:37:23Z")

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Are there any statistics on how often an Allen charge has successfully broken a deadlock? Is it really anything other than an instruction from the judge to “go back and try really, really hard to reach a consensus”?

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**Author:** ![BobBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@BobBitchin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobBitchin)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/11 "2017-06-16T03:06:45Z")

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I voted pie because I really don’t have a feel for what might happen with the jury.

But I will say whatever this jury says he will not pay. He will claim special circumstances, medical blah blah blah.

Between appeals, and half measures like house arrest or community service, he’ll die before one iota of punishment or Justice is seen.

Sorry to be pessimistic, but the number of celebrities that have escaped Justice for serious and repeated felonies like rape , murder ,assault on officers, felons with guns drugs kids in the same car etc just floors me.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/12 "2017-06-16T12:13:52Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> Are there any statistics on how often an Allen charge has successfully broken a deadlock? Is it really anything other than an instruction from the judge to “go back and try really, really hard to reach a consensus”?

As when I am working my ass off sorting out a computer problem, and someone begins screaming, “Do you not realize how IMPORTANT this is to the company?”

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/13 "2017-06-16T15:40:51Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> As when I am working my ass off sorting out a computer problem, and someone begins screaming, “Do you not realize how IMPORTANT this is to the company?”

I mean, if you and a team of 11 other technicians can’t reach unanimous consensus on the nature of the computer problem, and you have to have that (verdict) so that you can begin corrective actions (sentencing), then, sure, exactly the same.

Otherwise, completely different, other than the “keep working at it” angle. And the fact that I suspect you won’t quit if you can’t easily find an answer, whereas a jury can legitimately quit (hung jury).

But, yeah, other then those little differences, precisely like that. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/14 "2017-06-16T15:57:16Z")

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> [@BobBitchin](#):
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> Sorry to be pessimistic, but the number of celebrities that have escaped Justice for serious and repeated felonies like rape , murder ,assault on officers, felons with guns drugs kids in the same car etc just floors me.

Serious and repeated felonies?

Who are you thinking of?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/15 "2017-06-16T16:10:39Z")

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I’m expecting a hung jury. And a 2nd trial.

At least two jurors strongly disagree. Will one (side) concede that the other (side) is correct? Will one (side) simply give up and join the majority?

Personally, I have no idea if the prosecution has proven it’s case, or at least convinced the jury that the prosecution was justified.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/16 "2017-06-16T16:32:03Z")

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Jurors today requested the meaning of “reasonable doubt”.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/17 "2017-06-16T16:43:36Z")

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Would this be reasonable doubt?

The witness Constand could be lying about her and Cosby’s relationship and that it was a consensual sexual one.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/18 "2017-06-17T14:41:28Z")

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And it’s a mistrial.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/19 "2017-06-17T14:59:15Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> And it’s a mistrial.

How long does it take to start a new trial? What happens if they get another mistrial or 2? Can you just keep prosecuting someone forever if you can’t get a decision?

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-think-the-cosby-verdict-will-be/789029/20 "2017-06-17T15:04:00Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> How long does it take to start a new trial? What happens if they get another mistrial or 2? Can you just keep prosecuting someone forever if you can’t get a decision?

Depends on the state.

There is no constitutional bar for multiple reprosecutions following mistrials.

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