# What do you want to see in the next Star Trek?

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**Created:** [April 27, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491 "2010-04-27T04:03:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/21 "2010-04-27T14:19:22Z")

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Count me in the the people saying NO TIME TRAVEL! It always pisses me off.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/22 "2010-04-27T14:35:13Z")

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Uhura naked.

I don’t even care which one.

preferably both.

and no time travel.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/23 "2010-04-27T14:54:24Z")

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Phasers  
Photon torpedoes  
Warp drive  
Explosions  
Romulans  
Short skirts  
A plot line

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/24 "2010-04-27T15:14:01Z")

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Fine, keep the fucking reboot… but the next movie has to start with someobdy saying “y’know, it’s completely fucking stupid for a third-year cadet to get promoted to Captain, so now that everything’s calmed down, back to class, Mister Kirk!”

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/25 "2010-04-27T15:14:18Z")

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I’d like to see them go back to Elba II.

Given what Marta wore for prime-time 1969 audiences, I can’t wait to see what she’ll wear for 2012 PG-13.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/26 "2010-04-27T15:18:42Z")

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> [@Max\_the\_Immortal](#):
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> You know how at the end of Voyager, Voyager gets decked out with fancy tech from the (farther) future and steamrolls a few Borg ships? I want to see the long-term consequences of that. Maybe a timeline where the Federation outfits its whole fleet with those fancy weapons, wrecks the Borg, and then, drunk with power, goes all warmongery. Suddenly, the Federation doesn’t seem so shiny and happy (or, perhaps, it seems unsettlingly shiny and happy). They’d be the bad guys of this series. There could be an anti-Federation coalition that managed to get their hands on stolen Federation tech, setting the stage for a protracted war.

The new Federation could use some cool logo. Maybe a blue sun. And their operatives could wear blue gloves and go in pairs…

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/27 "2010-04-27T15:56:45Z")

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Staying away from time travel would be nice. When you start thinking about time travel, then you start thinking about why Spock couldn’t go back in time to stop Nero or keep Romulus from blowing up. Spock could go forward in time and make the whole movie/reboot/“new reality” moot.

Also, keep away from breweries when filming the engine room. We don’t need another wacky scene where Kirk gets sucked all around the water pipes like it’s Charlie and the Chocolate factory or something.

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**Author:** ![mambocrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc348/32.png) [@mambocrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mambocrow)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/28 "2010-04-27T16:00:15Z")

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What I don’t want to see is anyone (especially Kirk) hanging off a thousand foot precipice by his fingernails. Happens at least three times in the reboot. Enough already.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/29 "2010-04-27T16:07:30Z")

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> [@Darkhold](#):
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> I hope ‘like the reboot’ is referring to the action scenes as the reboot definitely didn’t have an intelligent script. It had to have had the most nonsensical plot with erratic characters behaving completely ridiculously to move the plot along.
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> Strangely I still managed to enjoy it. It just was a very very very dumb movie.

Yea, I agree that the reboot managed to be entertaining despite the egregiously dumb plot. So for the next movie, I’d just like to see the same actors/characters as the last film, but with a smart plot. Also I hope they don’t just start rehashing old original series villains in the new slightly different universe. Wrath of Khan was a good movie, but I don’t really feel the need to watch a slightly different version of it with different actors and a different universe.

Also agree, stay away from time-travel and mirror universes.

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**Author:** ![infinitii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e8c25b/32.png) [@infinitii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/infinitii)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/30 "2010-04-27T16:07:42Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Also, keep away from breweries when filming the engine room. We don’t need another wacky scene where Kirk gets sucked all around the water pipes like it’s Charlie and the Chocolate factory or something.

Or the ridiculous scene where he has hands like “Huge Hands Hans”.

I kinda like most of the time travel stories in the Star Trek universe though.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/31 "2010-04-27T16:22:27Z")

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Kathryn Janeway gets timewarped into the body of Wilma Deering in 2432, creating the moral dilemma of whether she should jump Buck Rogers.

Then she wakes up to find it’s all a dream and it is actually _1932_ and she is in the body of the _actress_ playing Wilma on the Buck Rogers _radio program_. One problem down, another greeeeat big one to go.

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/32 "2010-04-27T16:53:57Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> An intelligent, witty script and good action scenes. Like the reboot.

Witty I can see. Intelligent? Not so much.

I should support that statement.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/33 "2010-04-27T17:06:49Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Also, keep away from breweries when filming the engine room. We don’t need another wacky scene where Kirk gets sucked all around the water pipes like it’s Charlie and the Chocolate factory or something.

Hey, I liked that scene! It was fun, it was completely random, and it made me think of [this bit](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWL0BdmC3ek)from another great Star Trek movie. It was basically another example of the “what the hell” attitude that made the film so endearing.

As for intelligence - I judge a Trek film the same way I judge other comic-book flicks. Its script was about as intelligent as \*Iron Man \*or \*Dark Knight \*- what more do you want?

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/34 "2010-04-27T17:16:16Z")

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Khan.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/35 "2010-04-27T17:20:13Z")

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Gratuitous nudity.

A script by Wil Wheaton.

A re-re-boot that passes off the re-boot as just a nightmare of Spock’s after eating a bad churro.

Lots of Klingons.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/36 "2010-04-27T17:20:14Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> Khan.

So who could play Khan if they revisit that character? Antonio Banderas?

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/37 "2010-04-27T17:31:59Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> So who could play Khan if they revisit that character? Antonio Banderas?

Too old. I am thinking the guy who plays Sayid on Lost.

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**Author:** ![The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_In_Black)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/38 "2010-04-27T17:56:01Z")

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If they to Kahn right, it could be amazing. But it would be hard finding an actor who can pull it off.

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**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/39 "2010-04-27T18:09:18Z")

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What I want to see in the next movie is Lt. Gary Mitchell on the bridge. I’d also kinda like to see him come to an untimely demise, preferrably by way of mysterious space affliction, just like in TOS.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-want-to-see-in-the-next-star-trek/537491/40 "2010-04-27T18:19:11Z")

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> [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](#):
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> If they to Kahn right, it could be amazing. But it would be hard finding an actor who can pull it off.

I’m still against it. One of the (many) problems with the last few attempts to revisit the franchise is that Star Trek writers are addicted to endlessly revisiting actors, heroes and (especially) villains from previous iterations. Taking advantage of audience nostalgia for older Treks occasionally is kinda fun, but its just boring if thats basically all they offer, and things that were cool the first time (the Borg in TNG) become so convoluted and neutered by the tenth or twentieth appearance that they’re boring (the Borg by the end of Voyager). I’m convinced the reason the latest movies plot was such a mess was at least in part because the writers felt they had to shoehorn a part for Leonard Nemoy.

Kahn had a good run back in the days of the original cast. Hopefully they’ll try something new this time, and show some actual _new_ worlds and _new_ civilizations.

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