# What does a political "conservative" believe today? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 14, 2025, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-a-political-conservative-believe-today/1017031 "2025-04-14T13:17:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-a-political-conservative-believe-today/1017031/81 "2025-05-20T16:10:09Z")
Happily this will not be a problem. Those “election” thingies are definitely a thing of the past. They were all rigged anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-a-political-conservative-believe-today/1017031/82 "2025-05-28T20:13:00Z")
> [@fedman1](#): > > can you imagine the blowback if a Dem liberal proposed recognizing China or surrendering a lost Vietnam war? Johnson was in negotiations to surrender the lost war, but Nixon was sneaking behind his back to stymy negotiations until he was in office. > [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Without the help of white women and latinos, who realize being second in gender and second in race in a social hierarchy is better than living in a purely egalitarian system, they wouldn’t be able to get to a plurality of voters. What a lot of people, including professional political analysts, is that identity politics is not one- dimensional. Women voting for Trump may be comfortable with, and some even support, their second- class status, but they are also typically white traditional or evangelical christians who fear the growth of the other much more than they want the nebulous gains of egalitarianism. > [@DrDeth](#): > > Fiscal restraint? That was the lie they propagated. > [@DrDeth](#): > > Bush invaded Iraq- for no good reason. And kicked off the drive for “regime change” in both Iraq and Afghanistan. It was the Neocon agenda to remake the Middle East, not the Dems who had to pick up the pieces. > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > No. When they decided to build their base out of the crazies, it was inevitable that the crazies would take over eventually. Yes, the Tea Party were already shaping the Republican Party. When Ted Cruz first ran for Senate, his primary campaign was that his opponent was “too moderate”. MAGA came along and told the Tea Party _they_ were too moderate. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-a-political-conservative-believe-today/1017031/83 "2025-06-02T17:10:37Z")
An interesting article about legal conservatives (unfortunately paywalled, unless someone has a gift link): > **[A Fiery Brief Fueled by Conservatives Helped Put Trump’s Tariffs in Peril](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/02/us/trump-tariffs-court-brief.html)** > > A coalition including leading figures on the right said the president’s program did violence to the Constitution. One judge cited it eight times. > “You have to understand that the conservative movement is now, as an intellectual movement, consistently anti-Trump on most issues,” he said… > > “The powers to tax, to regulate commerce and to shape the nation’s economic course must remain with Congress,” the brief said. “They cannot drift silently into the hands of the president through inertia, inattention or creative readings of statutes never meant to grant such authority. That conviction is not partisan. It is constitutional. And it strikes at the heart of this case.” > > … the justices will have to grapple with two doctrines dear to the conservative legal movement, both of which would seem to cut against Mr. Trump’s understanding of his powers. One, the nondelegation doctrine, says that Congress may not transfer unbounded legislative powers to the executive branch. The other, the major questions doctrine, says Congress must authorize in plain and direct language any sweeping executive actions that could transform the economy. Here is the brief (not paywalled): > **[Tariff%20amicus%20for%20distribution.pdf](https://www.hoover.org/sites/default/files/2025-05/Tariff%20amicus%20for%20distribution.pdf)** > > 310.46 KB ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-a-political-conservative-believe-today/1017031/84 "2025-06-02T20:31:41Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > An interesting article about legal conservatives (u Yes. trump didnt realize when he picked Gorsuch that Gorsuch was a _legal_ conservative (like Roberts), not a MAGA conservative. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-a-political-conservative-believe-today/1017031.md?page=4)