# What does Eminem have against Moby? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 22, 2003, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594 "2003-06-22T17:28:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/1 "2003-06-22T17:28:08Z")
Eminem seems to have taken anger management classes lately so his angry young white man shtick is mellowing but he really did dislike Moby there for a while-- remember Em flying Moby the bird during the MTV awards a year or so ago? Em usually had some sort of rationale for the venom but I never understood his dislike for Moby. Did Moby steal his beats? Kiss his wife? What? ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/2 "2003-06-22T17:42:32Z")
Most of his action against Mody is manufactured, but it is because Moby accused Eminem of being a closet homosexual. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/3 "2003-06-22T17:56:21Z")
Moby called Em an undercover fag? Whoo hoo! I always knew I liked him. What do you mean Em’s actioned were manufactured? Do you mean staged? Are you trying to tell me MTV actually staged that fight? I’m shocked. _Shocked!_ ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/4 "2003-06-22T17:57:58Z")
no, I mean probably most of it was just hyped, to boost Eminems status as a ‘taking no guff from no-one’ kinda guy…you know what rappers are like all bravado and stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/5 "2003-06-22T18:18:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Biggirl \* > \*\*Moby called Em an undercover fag? Whoo hoo! I always knew I liked him. \*\* Yea, we were watching AlTV (note: Weird Al hosts, you can imagine how accurate it is) and I’m not entirely sure, but I think Weird Al outed Eminem… ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/6 "2003-06-22T23:22:51Z")
When did Weird Al out Eminem? What happened? And of course, there was John Stewart, “I just ran into Eminem backstage. Man, is he ever GAY! He’s just so gay-I mean, he’s so completely gay!” Or something to that effect. ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/7 "2003-06-22T23:39:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > **When did Weird Al out Eminem? What happened?** Oh, Al was doing one of his AlTv interviews and Em said something about liking men. Then Al invited him out after the show and Em said, “Yea, we can pick some nice looking guys”, etc. I think Eminem had a normal interview first and Weird Al cut it up and made it funny. ---
**Author:** ![wakimika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f08c70/32.png) [@wakimika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wakimika)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/8 "2003-06-23T01:54:26Z")
“Rapper” vs. “Techno nerd who steals all his material from dead black people” fights are kinda dull. If you want to have a laugh, check out Em’s trashing of Everlast: “Quitter” ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Gahona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Joe\_Gahona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Gahona)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/9 "2003-06-23T02:11:01Z")
> [@](#): > > no, I mean probably most of it was just hyped, to boost Eminems status as a ‘taking no guff from no-one’ kinda guy… Yeah. It’s real gangsta to pick on bald vegans, muppets, guys with heart problems, and boy bands. At least other rappers talk crap to each other. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/10 "2003-06-23T02:36:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GMRyujin \* > \*\*Oh, Al was doing one of his AlTv interviews and Em said something about liking men. Then Al invited him out after the show and Em said, “Yea, we can pick some nice looking guys”, etc. > > I think Eminem had a normal interview first and Weird Al cut it up and made it funny. \*\* I got the impression that the interviews on ALTV aren’t interviews at all. I think he took another interview from eariler, cut it up, and edited it together. I don’t make a habit of watching Eminem interviews, but I _know_ I’ve seen the at least parts of the un"ALed" interview before. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/11 "2003-06-23T02:54:02Z")
The real reason is that Eminem is in denial about being attracted to Moby. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/12 "2003-06-23T03:04:16Z")
**GMRyujin** , I’m watching AlTV right now. He’s “interviewing” Avril Lagvine (or however you spell it). There’s no way this is a real interview. It’s really funny. ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/13 "2003-06-23T03:16:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Biggirl \* > \*\ ***GMRyujin** , I’m watching AlTV right now. He’s “interviewing” Avril Lagvine (or however you spell it). There’s no way this is a real interview. > > It’s really funny. \*\* The Avril interview had me on the floor. “Say some stuff that makes no sense at all.” ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/14 "2003-06-23T03:24:14Z")
Al:So Britney, are you a serious singer/songwriter or a soulless robot sent here to take over the world? Britney Spears: I guess I’m a little bit of both. Hee hee. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/15 "2003-06-23T03:28:41Z")
Where is AlTv? What channel, when. I want to see. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/16 "2003-06-23T03:30:24Z")
He’s “interviewing” Celine Dion right now on MTV. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/17 "2003-06-23T03:33:03Z")
It’s on MTV? I thought it was on VH1 ---
**Author:** ![Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/db5fbb/32.png) [@Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fred)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/18 "2003-06-23T03:34:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by wakimika \* > **"Rapper" vs. “Techno nerd who steals all his material from dead black people” fights are kinda dull.** Have you listened to any of Moby’s albums? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/19 "2003-06-23T03:44:36Z")
Yeah, it is VH1. That big ole one in the corner should have tipped me off. **Fred** , I love Moby’s _Play_ because of the roots, gospel and jazz influences. But Rappers should be the very last group of musicians to be upset about “stealing” from dead black people. ---
**Author:** ![Freiheit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e8c25b/32.png) [@Freiheit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freiheit)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594/20 "2003-06-23T03:48:34Z")
paraphrased… “So Celine, I remember one time we had a date… it started with an intimate dinner,” “And it ended with whipped cream, all over me” Hilarious! “And your parents were cannibalized…” “Yes, I could smell the cooking of my mother.” I hope these interviews are on kazaa. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-eminem-have-against-moby/183594.md?page=2)