Unless you are talking about the Star Wars universe, and Force Ghosts and such.
No, I think he’d just classify that as “fantasy.”
Star Wars is fantasy with SF trappings.
Pretty much. “There is no death; there is the Force”.
Which is why the prequel attempts to explain the force with midichlorians was so off-brand. The force is mysticism, not science.
I’m mostly not a Star Wars fan, but I stan Andor.
I’m 100% a Trekkie.
Yup, I was not very happy with the movie by that point, but when they started technobabbling about midichlorians they cemented my dislike for the prequels.
That reminds me of a similar was of putting it; that magic and fantasy are largely about anthropomorphizing the universe. It’s about treating the nonhuman world as if it can be commanded or persuaded, and “will” as a tangible force.
A “KEEP OUT” sign might stop a person, but it won’t stop something inanimate; the natural world cares nothing for symbols in the real world. But in a world of magic if you know the right symbols, use the right words or just have enough willpower maybe you can make things refuse to cross the line you drew in the sand. You can draw a pentagram and the demon can’t get out of it.
I think that midichlorians would have been okay if it had been explicitly said that they’re an indicator of Force potential, not a cause. Basically something like “–but putting midichlorians into people doesn’t GIVE them a command of the Force; it’s been tried”.
Even that way it would be clunky, why not have the Jedis simply sense the ginormous force potential of Anakin? Vader could sense Luke force potential from a friggin Tie Fighter engaged in dogfighting, so probably at least 5 kms. And 2 Jedis cannot feel the potential of a boy they have right in front of them?
This is why I dislike The Matrix sequels–they spent way too much time technobabbling to explain things.
Certainly that is a basis claim regarding magic. I’m not sure it’s true of all fantasy, but certainly to the degree that magic is interwoven with story expectations.
Yeah, even then, the idea that the Force is something quantifiable like that still bugs me. Turns it into some Dragonball Z style bullshit.
Yes! And so unnecessary.
Obi Wan: The force is incredibly powerful in this boy
Qui Gon Jinn: By Yoda’s green underwear you are right! (or words to that effect), In all my years as a Jedi Knight I haven’t sensed someone as strong.
There, fixed, no ugly technobabble neded.