# What does "No Substitutions" mean to you?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-no-substitutions-mean-to-you/843347>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 12, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-no-substitutions-mean-to-you/843347 "2019-11-12T20:07:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-no-substitutions-mean-to-you/843347/61 "2019-11-14T20:11:12Z")

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I don’t know, honestly. I rarely see it at restaurants, and it doesn’t apply to me because I’m not picky and I’ll take the meal however it’s normally prepared. That said, I would be miffed if I couldn’t get something I wanted for silly technicality reasons. But I might expect to pay more.

For example, “Sandwich combos come with chips, substitute fries or tots for a dollar more”. I’d still expect to be able to get a side of coleslaw or chili if I asked, I just wouldn’t expect to get it at the regular combo price. Like at McDonald’s I can get a double cheeseburger with special sauce, but I wouldn’t expect to get it at the same price as a Big Mac. It’s just common sense, to me. If I want roast beef on rye, I won’t order the Dagwood sandwich “without ham, without turkey, and put it on rye bread instead of a hoagie”. I’ll just order roast beef on rye and pay whatever that costs.

So basically, in my mind “no substitutions” means “our combos are priced based on what they come with, if you want a different combination of items and toppings, you may have to pay a la carte prices for that order” rather than “if you don’t see the specific combo you want on our menu you’re SOL”. But like I said, I literally have no experience bumping up against this rule because I take it how it comes.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-no-substitutions-mean-to-you/843347/62 "2019-11-14T20:11:24Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> I went to a Japanese restaurant today. They offered some vegan dishes. This included a vegan bent with miso soup, but the miso soup wasn’t listed as vegan on the menu. When I asked, the waitress affirmed that even though the misogyny is listed in the vegan bento, they don’t serve it but substitute. What do they substitute? Nothing!

“Now I don’t eat chicken, so it’s just noodle soup. And there’s no chicken in the broth either, so it’s really just… noodle water.”

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-no-substitutions-mean-to-you/843347/63 "2019-11-14T20:15:28Z")

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Hey, the patriarchy made the spelling check on my phone! Miso, misogyny–it all leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

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**Author:** ![drivekiller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cdc98d/32.png) [@drivekiller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drivekiller)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-no-substitutions-mean-to-you/843347/64 "2019-11-15T04:48:30Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> [Here’s one from a place in New York (Karakatta)](https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/cerOiQ-E8GRYes_OlXOdsA/o.jpg). Note the bottom: “No Alterations To Menu.” [Here’s a place in Washington](https://silversandstavern.com/menu/).

The definition of pizza is pretty much ‘a bread base with alterations’. I can’t imagine why anyone would order a pizza at the Silver Sand Tavern.

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-no-substitutions-mean-to-you/843347/65 "2019-11-15T05:16:26Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I didn’t even know you could order misogyny for dinner these days. I certainly wouldn’t!

I’d like to order one person please. White people. No no no, black people. And Hispanic on half. No misogyny please.

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**Author:** ![tavalla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tavalla/32/89_2.png) [@tavalla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tavalla)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-no-substitutions-mean-to-you/843347/66 "2019-11-15T10:16:22Z")

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I said “you can remove ingredients”, but I’m going to qualify it - you can remove easily removed ingredients e.g. if it’s fish, chips and salad, you can skip the salad or the chips, but you can’t ask for no tomato in the salad.

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**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2019, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-does-no-substitutions-mean-to-you/843347/67 "2019-11-25T04:22:08Z")

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It means you have to play with the set of players you start the game with for the entire game.

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