# What Effect Will Trump's Concentration Camps have on his reelection campaign?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [June 19, 2019, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738 "2019-06-19T12:15:42Z")
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/561 "2019-07-02T17:51:26Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> If I had $750.00 a day, I could live in a nice hotel with maid service, room service and free HBO.
>
> And have money left over. Complaints about a lack of funds sure ring hollow.
And we have people here who are being critical of THE GOVERNMENT for not being efficient. But boy howdy, that Private Business model sure works great.
Here’s my proposed budget for $750/child/day. Of course I’m only proposing that I’d look after 4 kids - So just imagine that there are a bunch of people like me, each one of them responsible for 4 kids.
4 kids, one year, $750/day/kid
budget = $1,095,000
Salary – me, executive director of child procurement and oversight = $150,000
Assistant director and staff overseer (my spouse) = $75,000
Cook – I don’t like cooking. 20 hours/week @$30/hour = $31,200
Cleaning – I don’t like cleaning. 20 hours/week @$30/hour = $31,200
Gardening/pool maintenance – I will be too busy. 20 hours/week @$30/hour = $31,200
Nanny – someone needs to actually look after the kids. I’m busy doing… executive things. = $50,000/year for really good nanny.
Nanny can stay in the 6th bedroom with an ensuite.
Psychologist/counselling. Probably a good thing for these kids $200/hour, 3 hours/week/child for one full year = $124,800. A big ticket item, but worth it, I think.
Private school tuition. I think they deserve this, right? $10,000 per child = $40,000
Music lessons, art lessons, swimming lessons… these things are good for kids. $5,000/kid = $20,000
Platinum family golf club membership at Painted Dunes in El Paso = $2400. Well worth it I say.
Set of clubs for me and spouse = $2400
Set of clubs for all 4 kids = $2000
Rent of 6 bedroom house in El Paso:
- luxury home in Loretto/Radford
- 6 bedroom, 3.5 bathrooms
- Den, family room, fireplaces
Cul-de-sac close to schools
Fenced back yard with pool, sauna
Kitchen with granite counters, all stainless appliances = $3,000/month, $36,000 total
Furniture for house:
Bedrooms @ $10,000 each = $60,000 Kids will have to make to with just a small TV in each of their private bedrooms
Living room = $15,000
Other rooms = $20,000
Food - average cost in USA is $2641 per person per year, so lets say $5000 per person = $25,000 including me.
Clothing, other costs per child = $10,000 each per child = $40,000. We can probably afford soap and toothpaste on that.
Utilities, other monthly incidentals = $2,000/month = $24,000
Cell phones for kids and me $300/month = $3600
Car. I”ll need a 7 passenger Range Rover discovery. = $80,000
Insurance, gas, etc. for car = $15,000
Restaurants Once/week for 5 people@$150 = $7,800
Holiday. Kids should go to Disneyland, right? Hotel and airfare = $7,000 Food = $2,000, Disney tickets = $5000 Souvenirs= $1000 total = $15,000
Christmas and birthday presents for kids = $5,000/kid = $20,000
GRAND TOTAL $924,600
Hmmmm. Better give myself a bonus. $150,000 bonus for doing such a good job.
Total = $ 1,074,600
You know what? I’m under budget.
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### Author:  [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/562 "2019-07-02T17:56:52Z")
> [@octopus](#):
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> Lol. Keep raging impotently at the machine and let’s see how much difference you actually make. But to answer your question what does the government usually do with extra money? Waste 7/8ths of it. Which should leave enough money for some off brand toilet paper, diapers, and tooth paste.
Buddy, they already have enough money for toilet paper and tooth paste. They don’t provide those things because they’re engaged on a program of deliberate cruelty.
The “we need more funding” thing is a lie that was only supposed to distract the stupid people until their attention could be distracted by a sporting event or a war, not to confuse the people who cared enough about the subject to make it to page 20 of a topic thread.
To be honest, I’m not sure what you hope to gain by being snarky about a subject you’re so profoundly ignorant about. If all your snark does is reveal your ignorance, is it really snark, or is it just ignorance? (P.s. if it’s just ignorance, let me say how amusing it is that ignorance ties so perfectly to the right-wing opinion on things)
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/563 "2019-07-02T17:58:52Z")
Here’s an alternate budget for my company:
Alternate budget:
40 kids, one year, $750/day/kid
budget = $10,950,000
Salary for me: $10,000,000
Salary for 4 guards = $160,000
Rental of warehouse = $40,000
Rental of portable toilets = $20,000
Fencing = $10,000
Food $2.45/day/kid = $35,000
(cost of prison food)
Soap, toothbrushes etc. $100/kid = $4,000
Cots, bedding = $10,000
Political donations = $671,000
Total = $10,950,000
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### Author:  [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/564 "2019-07-02T18:00:05Z")
None whatsoever. The people that support him are OK with this. The people who aren’t already are against him.
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### Author:  [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/565 "2019-07-02T18:01:03Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
>
> And we have people here who are being critical of THE GOVERNMENT for not being efficient. But boy howdy, that Private Business model sure works great.
>
> Here’s my proposed budget for $750/child/day. Of course I’m only proposing that I’d look after 4 kids - So just imagine that there are a bunch of people like me, each one of them responsible for 4 kids.
>
> 4 kids, one year, $750/day/kid
>
> budget = $1,095,000
>
> Salary – me, executive director of child procurement and oversight = $150,000
> Assistant director and staff overseer (my spouse) = $75,000
> Cook – I don’t like cooking. 20 hours/week @$30/hour = $31,200
> Cleaning – I don’t like cleaning. 20 hours/week @$30/hour = $31,200
> Gardening/pool maintenance – I will be too busy. 20 hours/week @$30/hour = $31,200
> Nanny – someone needs to actually look after the kids. I’m busy doing… executive things. = $50,000/year for really good nanny.
> Nanny can stay in the 6th bedroom with an ensuite.
> Psychologist/counselling. Probably a good thing for these kids $200/hour, 3 hours/week/child for one full year = $124,800. A big ticket item, but worth it, I think.
>
> Private school tuition. I think they deserve this, right? $10,000 per child = $40,000
>
> Music lessons, art lessons, swimming lessons… these things are good for kids. $5,000/kid = $20,000
>
> Platinum family golf club membership at Painted Dunes in El Paso = $2400. Well worth it I say.
> Set of clubs for me and spouse = $2400
> Set of clubs for all 4 kids = $2000
>
> Rent of 6 bedroom house in El Paso:
>
> - luxury home in Loretto/Radford
> - 6 bedroom, 3.5 bathrooms
> - Den, family room, fireplaces
> Cul-de-sac close to schools
> Fenced back yard with pool, sauna
> Kitchen with granite counters, all stainless appliances = $3,000/month, $36,000 total
>
> Furniture for house:
> Bedrooms @ $10,000 each = $60,000 Kids will have to make to with just a small TV in each of their private bedrooms
> Living room = $15,000
> Other rooms = $20,000
>
> Food - average cost in USA is $2641 per person per year, so lets say $5000 per person = $25,000 including me.
>
> Clothing, other costs per child = $10,000 each per child = $40,000. We can probably afford soap and toothpaste on that.
>
> Utilities, other monthly incidentals = $2,000/month = $24,000
>
> Cell phones for kids and me $300/month = $3600
>
> Car. I”ll need a 7 passenger Range Rover discovery. = $80,000
> Insurance, gas, etc. for car = $15,000
>
> Restaurants Once/week for 5 people@$150 = $7,800
>
> Holiday. Kids should go to Disneyland, right? Hotel and airfare = $7,000 Food = $2,000, Disney tickets = $5000 Souvenirs= $1000 total = $15,000
>
> Christmas and birthday presents for kids = $5,000/kid = $20,000
> GRAND TOTAL $924,600
> Hmmmm. Better give myself a bonus. $150,000 bonus for doing such a good job.
>
> Total = $ 1,074,600
> You know what? I’m under budget.
Wow. How much would it cost for me to buy a franchise of your operation? I’d be willing to pay $20,000 for a location.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/566 "2019-07-02T18:08:01Z")
> [@Drum\_God](#):
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> Wow. How much would it cost for me to buy a franchise of your operation? I’d be willing to pay $20,000 for a location.
Done! I think the franchise model would be great. Each franchisee would take on 4 kids. I’d say the most number of franchise operations I’d allow would be 4 - 16 kids in all. Each operation would have a live-in director of operations (@$75,000/year), and you could then oversee each of the 4 units.
This would mean your total salary would be $600,000, and you’d owe me $80,000 franchise fee for the 4 operations.
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### Author:  [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/567 "2019-07-02T18:10:00Z")
Pictures of the overcrowding from the Office of the Inspector General:
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/568 "2019-07-02T18:21:54Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Pictures of the overcrowding from the Office of the Inspector General:
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> [https://twitter.com/GadiNBC/status/1146111881565933569](https://twitter.com/GadiNBC/status/1146111881565933569)
Use the term “refugee camp” now-I dare you. Son of a ghod damn bitch.
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/569 "2019-07-02T18:27:00Z")
Just remember - you can’t say “concentration camp”, because it hurts the feelings of the right wing.
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### Author:  [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/570 "2019-07-02T18:43:14Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> Ah yes, those filthy stupid savages don’t even know nuthin’ 'bout 'murican terlits.
They make [signs like this](https://dur-cjweb.newscyclecloud.com/storyimage/CJ/20170403/LIVING/170409984/EP/1/1/EP-170409984.jpg) for a reason.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/571 "2019-07-02T18:47:31Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> They make [signs like this](https://dur-cjweb.newscyclecloud.com/storyimage/CJ/20170403/LIVING/170409984/EP/1/1/EP-170409984.jpg) for a reason.
Would you like a bigger shovel, or are you satisfied with the hole you are currently digging? You have been told that there was no water available other than the toilet-what is your problem?
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/572 "2019-07-02T18:48:09Z")
Dirty foreign animals. They’re not like us.
Uncivilized. They probably will never even learn to use a toilet. Subhuman. Why should we even bother to treat them better than animals.
AmIRight **HurrcaneDitka**?
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/573 "2019-07-02T19:01:11Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I suspect the “drink from the toilet” claim was most likely a case of third-worlders not understanding how American toilets work and guards trying to explain to them that they can drink from the spout above the toilet, {…}
The standard American toilet comes with a built-in water fountain in what reality?
CMC fnord!
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/574 "2019-07-02T19:04:50Z")
“Most likely”. Sounds reasonable. :smack:
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/575 "2019-07-02T19:29:02Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> They make [signs like this](https://dur-cjweb.newscyclecloud.com/storyimage/CJ/20170403/LIVING/170409984/EP/1/1/EP-170409984.jpg) for a reason.
That came from [The Arches National Park.](https://the-journal.com/articles/38058#slide=0)
The image is in the slideshow.
> [@](#):
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> Home to the largest concentration of natural sandstone arches in the world, the park also boasts an array of pinnacles, massive fins and giant balanced rocks formed millions of years ago that jut out of the red desert and into the canyon country of southeastern Utah.
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> But it’s also become an educational experience on how to properly use a toilet.
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> Hanging in every bathroom, above every toilet, is an instructional sign, titled “Keep This Toilet Clean,” which offers five directives in a quest for sanitary restroom conditions. Each instruction is paired with a graphic, if humorous, illustration:
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> 1. Sit on the toilet during use.
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> 2. DO NOT stand on the toilet.
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> 3. DO NOT use the floor. Use the toilet.
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> 4. Put used toilet paper in the toilet.
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> 5. DO NOT put trash in the toilet. Use the trash can.
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> Like all eyebrow-raising rules, there always seems to be some infamous backstory. The case of Arches’ puzzling bathroom signs is no exception.
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> “That sign is up there because some of our foreign visitors are accustomed to what we call a ‘squat toilet,’” said park superintendent Kate Cannon, carefully trying not to disrespect certain visitors while at the same time being a good sport for this story.
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> “And sometimes when they use our more standard toilets, they’re not comfortable with them. So, they do various things that make it more comfortable for them to use the standard toilets.”
Article dated April 3, 2017.
Which Republican cesspool did you get that from?
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### Author:  [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/576 "2019-07-02T19:49:57Z")
> [@running\_coach](#):
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> That came from [The Arches National Park.](https://the-journal.com/articles/38058#slide=0)
> The image is in the slideshow.
>
> Article dated April 3, 2017.
> Which Republican cesspool did you get that from?
I did a Google image search for “Arches bathroom sign” because I recalled seeing them there last time I visited. I found a good picture of it, and followed the link to get an image URL. I have no idea about the source’s political leanings, but whatever they may be, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s a documented reality that some foreigners “don’t even know nuthin’ 'bout 'murican terlits” (to borrow an early poster’s humorous phrasing). They sometimes cause damage to the facilities and leave behind disgusting messes.
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### Author:  [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/577 "2019-07-02T19:59:21Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> The standard American toilet comes with a built-in water fountain in what reality?
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> CMC fnord!
I admit, it’s probably not as common as, say, a garbage disposal, but they’re pretty standard in most detention facilities, AFAIK. I’ve seen online posts where guards have said they’ve repeatedly had to tell illegal immigrants that it was ok to drink the water out of the top, that it was not, actually, dirty toilet water, but that there were separate lines to service each function. I can see how someone might not trust them and perhaps even report to a certain emotional congressperson that the guard told them to drink out of the toilet, who might then tweet about it and blow a little miscommunication / misunderstanding way out of proportion.
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### Author:  [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/578 "2019-07-02T20:00:08Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I did a Google image search for “Arches bathroom sign” because I recalled seeing them there last time I visited. I found a good picture of it, and followed the link to get an image URL. I have no idea about the source’s political leanings, but whatever they may be, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s a documented reality that some foreigners “don’t even know nuthin’ 'bout 'murican terlits” (to borrow an early poster’s humorous phrasing). They sometimes cause damage to the facilities and leave behind disgusting messes.
In the Caribbean some of the waste systems cannot handle toilet paper, so trash cans are supplied for it. Often Americans create disgusting messes because they do not know “nuthin bout Caribbean terlits” despite adequate explanatory signage (in French).
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/579 "2019-07-02T20:02:40Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I did a Google image search for “Arches bathroom sign” because I recalled seeing them there last time I visited. I found a good picture of it, and followed the link to get an image URL. I have no idea about the source’s political leanings, but whatever they may be, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s a documented reality that some foreigners “don’t even know nuthin’ 'bout 'murican terlits” (to borrow an early poster’s humorous phrasing). They sometimes cause damage to the facilities and leave behind disgusting messes.
Does that make it o.k. to tell them to drink out of the toilet?
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### Author:  [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/580 "2019-07-02T20:03:22Z")
Would \*you \*do it?
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