# What Effect Will Trump's Concentration Camps have on his reelection campaign?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [June 19, 2019, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738 "2019-06-19T12:15:42Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/581 "2019-07-02T20:04:17Z")
> [@kayaker](#):
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> In the Caribbean some of the waste systems cannot handle toilet paper, so trash cans are supplied for it. Often Americans create disgusting messes because they do not know “nuthin bout Caribbean terlits” despite adequate explanatory signage (in French).
I lived in Chile for two years, and I’m familiar with the issue (it’s similar throughout much of South America, not just the Caribbean). Their sewer system didn’t handle toilet paper well, which led to the waste basket disposal method, which is the reason we make signs here that instruct foreign visitors that they should “Put used toilet paper in the toilet.” which all just gets back to my point that the “drink from the toilet thing” might well have been a misunderstanding by a foreigner unfamiliar with how our plumbing and restroom facilities operate.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/582 "2019-07-02T20:07:33Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I lived in Chile for two years, and I’m familiar with the issue (it’s similar throughout much of South America, not just the Caribbean). Their sewer system didn’t handle toilet paper well, which led to the waste basket disposal method, which is the reason we make signs here that instruct foreign visitors that they should “Put used toilet paper in the toilet.” which all just gets back to my point that the “drink from the toilet thing” might well have been a misunderstanding by a foreigner unfamiliar with how our plumbing and restroom facilities operate.
And you were told why your explanation doesn’t hold water(sorry about that one, folks). _The only water available was in the toilet. Nothing came out of the only faucet available when it was turned on._
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/583 "2019-07-02T20:16:09Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I admit, it’s probably not as common as, say, a garbage disposal, but they’re pretty standard in most detention facilities, {…}
So, immigrants should come to America with foreknowledge of what the toilet facilities are like in American PRISONS?
While you were in South America how many toilets did YOU see with built in water fountains?
CMC fnord!
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### Author:  [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/584 "2019-07-02T20:17:46Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> And you were told why your explanation doesn’t hold water(sorry about that one, folks). _The only water available was in the toilet. Nothing came out of the only faucet available when it was turned on._
I’m no more confident in Ayanna Pressley’s ability to operate a faucet than I am in AOC’s ability to truthfully report on the situation.
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/585 "2019-07-02T20:20:19Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I’m no more confident in Ayanna Pressley’s ability to operate a faucet than I am in AOC’s ability to truthfully report on the situation.
Then who _would_ you believe, if not the people that actually were there?
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### Author:  [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/586 "2019-07-02T20:20:38Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> So, immigrants should come to America with foreknowledge of what the toilet facilities are like in American PRISONS?
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> While you were in South America how many toilets did YOU see with built in water fountains?
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> CMC fnord!
Well, if they’re going to cross the border illegally then yes, I suppose it would be a useful bit of knowledge, but, to your broader point, I’m not arguing that foreigners are bad people for not knowing how our plumbing works. I don’t expect them to have encyclopedic knowledge of American culture when they arrive, but I do see how this deficit might cause confusion and misunderstandings, which I have no doubt AOC would blow wildly out of proportion.
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### Author:  [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/587 "2019-07-02T20:22:18Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Then who _would_ you believe, if not the people that actually were there?
How about some Border Patrol agents. They were there too. Any of them report hearing a colleague telling women to drink out of the toilet bowl?
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### Author:  [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/588 "2019-07-02T20:23:16Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I don’t expect them to have encyclopedic knowledge of American culture when they arrive, but I do see how this deficit might cause confusion and misunderstandings, which I have no doubt AOC would blow wildly out of proportion.
Or report honestly what she’d seen, heard, and experienced.
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### Author:  [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/589 "2019-07-02T20:24:49Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> How about some Border Patrol agents. They were there too. Any of them report hearing a colleague telling women to drink out of the toilet bowl?
Border Patrol Agents…aren’t they the folks circulating memes of AOC with her head in the president’s foul lap?
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### Author:  [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/590 "2019-07-02T20:27:26Z")
> [@kayaker](#):
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> Border Patrol Agents…aren’t they the folks circulating memes of AOC with her head in the president’s foul lap?
It’s certainly a possibility that one of them did. I don’t think the identity / employer of the person who posted that particular image has been confirmed, has it?
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### Author:  [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/591 "2019-07-02T20:28:34Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I’m no more confident in Ayanna Pressley’s ability to operate a faucet than I am in AOC’s ability to truthfully report on the situation.
You got caught saying something reprehensible, so you double down and declare “Fake news!”.
Try some better role models, okay?
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### Author:  [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/592 "2019-07-02T20:30:13Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> You got caught saying something reprehensible, so you double down and declare “Fake news!”. …
Which thing that I said did you find “reprehensible”?
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/593 "2019-07-02T20:31:08Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> How about some Border Patrol agents. They were there too. Any of them report hearing a colleague telling women to drink out of the toilet bowl?
That’s who you would believe?
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### Author:  [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/594 "2019-07-02T20:31:46Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Which thing that I said did you find “reprehensible”?
Let’s be generous and just say “this thread”. I’ve read it even if you haven’t.
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### Author:  [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/595 "2019-07-02T20:32:58Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> That’s who you would believe?
Yes, and I’ll note that that same feeling you get when I suggest we believe the Border Patrol agents that were present is how I feel when people suggest I take AOC’s word for something just because she tweeted it and they know in their hearts that it must be true.
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### Author:  [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/596 "2019-07-02T20:34:01Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Let’s be generous and just say “this thread”. I’ve read it even if you haven’t.
That’s the same ElvisL1ves lack of specifics I’ve come to know and … well … know.
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### Author:  [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/597 "2019-07-02T20:53:09Z")
Guys, when are we going to wise up and understand that…
**HD** pulling stuff completely out of his ass
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Some libtard who reports something that they saw in person
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### Author:  [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/598 "2019-07-02T21:01:41Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> just because she tweeted it and they know in their hearts that it must be true.
You should have put more time between this particular piece of snark and your argument that eyewitness evidence should be ignored because you “know in your heart that it must be false”.
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### Author:  [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/599 "2019-07-02T21:01:50Z")
> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Guys, when are we going to wise up and understand that…
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> **HD** pulling stuff completely out of his ass
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> \>
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> Some libtard who reports something that they saw in person
The sooner the better 🙂
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### Author:  [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/600 "2019-07-02T21:13:03Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> You should have put more time between this particular piece of snark and your argument that eyewitness evidence should be ignored because you “know in your heart that it must be false”.
I think that “hearsay” is probably a better descriptor for the evidence that we’ve been presented rather than “eyewitness”. AOC didn’t claim to see anyone drinking out of the toilet. She didn’t claim to have heard the CBP officer tell the women to do it. She says someone told her about it after the fact, or at least told someone in her delegation, I’m still a bit fuzzy on if she actually entered the facility or not. I see a lot of her retweeting or posting photos taken by others and saying “we saw” rather than more unambiguously-first-person accounts.
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