# What Effect Will Trump's Concentration Camps have on his reelection campaign?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [June 19, 2019, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738 "2019-06-19T12:15:42Z")
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### Author: ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/661 "2019-07-03T22:56:51Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Serious question: is this the type of misleading statement that you would use in conversation with your wife?

Let’s not introduce other people’s spouses unless they bring it up.

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### Author: ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2019, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/662 "2019-07-03T23:11:54Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> You mean stuff like this:
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> or this:
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> ???

Well, in my first quote, I said that many Republicans were not reasonable, coherent, nor articulate. This is hardly “demonization”, and hardly equivalent to saying that asylum seekers are filthy animals, who deserve only to be shot on sight (note - this is not something YOU ever said, or would say - but I have heard it from Republicans who are not reasonable, coherent or articulate)

In the second quote you use, I note that Republicans value winning above all else, prefer simplistic solutions to complex problems, and that there is juvenile language coming out of the White House these days.

Again, hardly equivalent to saying that asylum seekers do not even know how to use a toilet.

But thanks anyway.

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### Author: ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> You think?
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> I think it’s just as likely that we’ll move [from stage 6 to stage 7.](http://www.genocidewatch.org/genocide/8stagesofgenocide.html) Because we’ll “have to take this regretful action. For our own safety”

> [@CarnalK](#):
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> You honestly think they may soon start murdering everyone in the detention centers?

Do you think that it _can’t_ happen here?

They don’t have to _directly_ murder people… just make conditions so deplorable that people will die from exposure, neglect, disease when they’re weakened by hunger and thirst… and when, inevitably, some of those people fight back they’ll be further abused to “keep order” or even shot during a riot…

It doesn’t _start_ with cattle cars of people being taken off somewhere else (although the image of people in standing-room-only conditions for days at a time do conjure up echoes of WWII cattle cars, which were also standing-room-only). It starts with just a few people being “detained” or taken away.

> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Yeah, ok. Not sure step 6 has been completed. You think death lists have been drawn up?

God, I hope not.

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> Are immigrants forced to wear special symbols?

No need to in the case of Latin American immigrants - their accents brand them as “other” to the bigots.

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> Has their property been expropriated?

Yes. As a matter of fact, it has. Detainees have been stripped of personal belongings that they carried from their points of origin, many of them being destroyed as “biocontaminated” because they got wet along the way at some point. Because that’s so much easier than, say, letting a backpack or clothing dry out. Or giving people access to laundry facilities.

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> Do you forsee this situation ending with an “inevitable tide of refugees”, as all immigrants flee to Canada and Mexico?

The immigrants have already passed through Mexico to get to the US, and they can’t get to Canada from south of the US without going through the US. It will be a situation where they’re between a rock and a hard place.

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### Author: ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Do you think that it _can’t_ happen here?

Geography doesn’t matter but political systems do. No, I don’t think it will happen at this point and time in America. Of course, it’s not impossible.

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> Yes. As a matter of fact, it has. Detainees have been stripped of personal belongings that they carried from their points of origin, many of them being destroyed as “biocontaminated” because they got wet along the way at some point. Because that’s so much easier than, say, letting a backpack or clothing dry out. Or giving people access to laundry facilities.

You don’t think the genocide page was talking about more offensive seizures, like people’s homes, money and heirlooms? You think they mean backpacks?

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### Author: ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
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If all you have is a backpack, it’s pretty significant to lose it.

ETA: If you have a house and lose it and everything else you have, and I have nothing but a backpack and lose it, are you poorer than me because you lost more? :dubious:

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### Author: ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)
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…lets clear this up.

America is at a crossroads. Its in very big trouble. Its been building to this for a very long time.

Trump didn’t start this. Trump is a focal point, the pivot, he’s the perfect storm that has people with white supremacist idealogies to take power. [Putin](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48795764) talks about how “liberalism is obsolete”, that he accepts LGBT peoples but they can be “excessive”, what we are witnessing here is not isolated to America but is part of a global movement towards authoritarianism.

What happening on the borders is not **the problem**. Its a symptom. Its been exacerbated by the power vaccum which allowed people like Stephen Miller to effectively make the decisions on how things have been done, and they have been exacerbated by the fact that Customs and Border Patrol by its very nature will attract people with toxic personas to the job.

There are several ways this can end. Genocide isn’t inevitable. At this stage I don’t even think that its likely. But we could end up there.

And the fastest way to end up there is to not have this conversation. My biggest fear over the last few months was the hold that Trump & Co held over the narrative. Important breaking stories would fade in a couple of hours, exemplified by this tweet by Washington Post writer David Fahrenthold, about his story on how Donald Trump inflated his wealth:

> [@DF](#):
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> All day long, this story has been just baaarely out-performing another Post story, about a Notre Dame student’s mom who objects to women wearing leggings.

> <https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold/status/1111379705289015297>

Out of all the damaging things Trump is doing to America at the moment, what is happening on the borders is what needs the attention the most. Because what the camps have descended into happened **in only a year** while the world was distracted. We went from outrage of the child seperation policy to almost no coverage for months. What will stop the slide to a genocidal regime will be to keep shining a spotlight on the borders, on the camps, and the people that run them. What will stop the slide will be people holding this administration to account, it will be voting the fuckers out of office at the next elections.

As horrible as this all is: I’m less worried about it now than I was when there was “near-radio silence” just a couple of months ago. This story hasn’t dropped out of the news cycle. We are still having this conversation. That is something that has to continue. _We can stop this._ I believe we \*\*will \*\*stop this. But it will only be stopped if we fight. So we can’t stop fighting.

And this entire story proves one more thing to me: that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is the smartest politican the American left have, I will fight anyone who claims otherwise, and you must protect her at all costs. She did all of this with a single, calculated tweet.

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### Author: ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> And this entire story proves one more thing to me: that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is the smartest politican the American left have, I will fight anyone who claims otherwise, and you must protect her at all costs. She did all of this with a single, calculated tweet.

First: no, she did not do anything single-handedly. There were a dozen lawmakers present and they all contributed images and words that are important for people to see.

Second, please don’t do this. Don’t put her on a pedestal like this, don’t make her your new messiah, don’t declare “only her”. That’s something _they_ do and it’s how demagogues happen.

Please don’t attempt to build a myth of infallible genius sainthood around _anyone_; I’ve had quite enough of that bullshit already.

ETA: The rest of your post is spot on.

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### Author: ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2019, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/668 "2019-07-04T05:01:18Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> First: no, she did not do anything single-handedly. There were a dozen lawmakers present and they all contributed images and words that are important for people to see.

…the “dozen lawmakers present” didn’t change the conversation. That only happened yesterday. The tweet about the concentration camps did.

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> Second, please don’t do this. Don’t put her on a pedestal like this, don’t make her your new messiah, don’t declare “only her”. That’s something _they_ do and it’s how demagogues happen.

Please don’t do this. Don’t claim I’m making her my “new messiah”, don’t claim I’m going to say “only her.”

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> Please don’t attempt to build a myth of infallible genius sainthood around _anyone_; I’ve had quite enough of that bullshit already.

Calling her the “smartest politician on the American left” is not building a myth of infallible genius sainthood." Its an opinion. Nothing more.

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### Author: ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> Please don’t do this. Don’t claim I’m making her my “new messiah”, don’t claim I’m going to say “only her.”
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> Calling her the “smartest politician on the American left” is not building a myth of infallible genius sainthood." Its an opinion. Nothing more.

:dubious:

> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> I will fight anyone who claims otherwise, and you must protect her at all costs.

:rolleyes:

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> :dubious::rolleyes:

…do you need clarification on what I said? Do you not understand what hyperbole is, and can you not figure out that a sentence like “I will fight anyone who claims otherwise, and you must protect her at all costs” might be a tad, just a smidgen, just a little bit hyperbolic? Especially considering at the age of 44 I’ve never had a real-life-fight in my life?

This is how the [news cycle is set.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1d7UvKWh6M) Fox news sets the agenda: then the main-stream media follows it. If Fox & Friends doesn’t talk about the camps on the borders then nobody else will. AOC’s used her social media reach to bring attention to the camps. She got Fox news talking about her, which got the rest of the media talking about what she she said. The public conversation mirrors how the debate happened in this thread: debate over “are they concentration camps or not”, that debate allowed the facts to come out, and tied us over to this week which saw the release of the OIG report and the visit to the camps by the congress-people.

You aren’t going to “win the war” if you don’t understand that the Trump administration is running a propaganda campaign against the American people. The propaganda machine is indistinguishable from [North Korean propaganda](https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1145693544910327814?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1145693544910327814%7Ctwgr%5E393039363b74776565745f6d65646961&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rawstory.com%2F2019%2F07%2Fdisturbingly-hilarious-daily-show-video-exposes-the-similarities-between-fox-news-and-north-korean-propaganda%2F). You aren’t going to win unless you have the ability to combat this. Its exactly why people like AOC are so important to the debate. It isn’t about “lionising her” or elevating her to “messiah” status. A single person isn’t going to win this. But she’s leading the way. And we all need to follow that lead.

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> You don’t think the genocide page was talking about more offensive seizures, like people’s homes, money and heirlooms? You think they mean backpacks?

Yes, I do. Because otherwise the word “genocide” would only apply to the relatively wealthy.

The people arriving at our southern border seeking asylum and being locked up for it have already lost most of what they had, what they carry is all they have left. Taking that means taking _everything_ leaving them with literally just the clothes on their back. A backpack might not mean much to you or me, but you and I have the money and the freedom to go out and buy another one if we want to - these folks have neither money nor freedom left.

How is taking every last remaining possession from someone NOT offensive? Does genocide apply only to homeowners and not to people who rent? Is taking someone’s last dollar (or peso) less offensive than taking their last 100,000? Does genocide only apply to people who have heirlooms? How much money and stuff does someone need to qualify for that stage of genocide? I read it literally - you take away someone’s stuff, even if they don’t have a lot of stuff, then it qualifies. And that would include someone who’s worldly “wealth” fits in a Wal-mart bag.

The poor and dispossessed have always been easy targets, but they care no less for the few things they have (had) than the wealthy care for their many things.

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#### Post date: [July 4, 2019, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/672 "2019-07-04T12:10:50Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Geography doesn’t matter but political systems do.

If you haven’t noticed the increasing erosion of our political systems, where have you been?

Trump’s basically turned his entire Administration into his personal toadies, including DoJ (whose independence has been an important norm in our democracy) and our national security apparatus. His daughter and son-in-law are his primary diplomats other than his own self. With the aid of Mitch McConnell who kept Obama from appointing anyone to the Federal judiciary for the last two years of his administration, he’s crammed the judiciary full of judges who will reliably decide cases his way.

And this has happened in less than two and a half years.

Yes, political systems matter. Ours isn’t what it was just a few years ago. We’re not a banana republic quite yet, but we’re past the point where merely electing a Dem President and giving ourselves a four-year break from Trumpism will suffice to change our direction.

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[ **What a Pediatrician Saw Inside a Border Patrol Warehouse**  
 _Dolly Lucio Sevier evaluated dozens of sick children at a facility in South Texas. She found evidence of infection, malnutrition, and psychological trauma._](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/07/border-patrols-oversight-sick-migrant-children/593224/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAtlantic+%28The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%29)

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> MCALLEN, Texas—Inside the Border Patrol warehouse on Ursula Avenue, Dolly Lucio Sevier saw a baby who’d been fed from the same unwashed bottle for days; children showing signs of malnutrition and dehydration; and several kids who, in her medical opinion, were exhibiting clear evidence of psychological trauma. More than 1,000 migrant children sat in the detention facility here, and Sevier, a local pediatrician, had been examining as many as she could, one at a time. But she wasn’t permitted to enter the area where they were being held, many of them in cages, and find the sickest kids to examine. Instead, in a nearby room, she manually reviewed a 50-page printout of that day’s detainees, and highlighted the names of children with a 2019 birth date—the babies—before moving on to the toddlers.
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> When it was almost time to leave, Sevier asked to see a 3-year-old girl, and then two other children. But by that point, the friendly and accommodating Border Patrol agent assisting her earlier in the day had been replaced by a dour guard, wearing a surgical mask, who claimed that he couldn’t find the toddler. “We can wait,” Sevier said, as she recalled to me in an interview. Her tone was polite but firm; she knew that she had the right under a federal court settlement to examine whomever she liked.
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> “She’s having a bath,” Sevier recalled the guard as saying, a luxury one official told her is available only to babies removed from their guardians. In the facility’s standard cages, there is no soap or showering for the kids. Though 72 hours is the longest a minor can be legally confined in such a facility, some had been there almost a month. Sevier waited.
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> Finally, the guard returned with news. He had found the girls after all. “We located the bodies,” he said, in paramilitary slang. “I’ll bring them right in.”  
> …
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> Beyond the children’s physical ailments, Sevier also began to worry about their mental health. She asked to see a 2-year-old from Honduras along with his teenage brother, who she hoped could provide the baby’s medical history. The older boy was excited because officials had kept them separate for more than two weeks. But when the guards brought the toddler over from the “day care” where the littlest detainees are held, he stared with wide eyes, Sevier recalled, and began panting heavily, hoarsely, and persistently for the rest of the encounter.  
> …
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> Sevier made her way down the list of names. A 15-month-old baby with a fever had been in detention for three weeks. His uncle had fed him from the same dirty formula bottle for days on end, until a guard replaced it with a new one. Because “all parents want the best health for their infant,” Sevier later wrote in the medical declaration, denying them “the ability to wash their infant’s bottles is unconscionable and could be considered intentional mental and emotional abuse.” Before her visit, the uncle had asked for medical attention because the baby was wheezing. In response, a guard had touched the baby’s head with his hand and concluded, “He’s not hot,” the uncle told Sevier.
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> “Denied access,” Sevier wrote. “Status: ACUTE.”
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> At her workstation, Sevier saw some quiet displays of resilience. A 17-year-old girl, with long black hair and a flat affect, entered the room carrying a green plastic bundle—her four-month-old son, wrapped in the kind of bed pad used for incontinent patients in a hospital. The mother explained that the boy had had diarrhea for several days and had soiled his clothes. Guards declined to provide clean baby clothes, she told Sevier, so she managed to obtain two extra diapers and flatten them out into rectangles—one for the baby’s back, one for his chest. She had connected them like a disposable tunic, then wrapped him in the plastic pad. Inside the package, the baby was dirty and sticky, Sevier said. Diaper fluff clung to his hands, his armpits, and the folds of his neck. He wore no socks.
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> “I carry my baby super close to me to keep his little body warm,” the mother told Jodi Goodwin, one of the attorneys with Sevier, who interviewed her the same day  
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> These aren’t even the sickest children in the government’s care—those kids are quarantined at a different station, in Weslaco, Texas. When the team of lawyers visited Ursula without Sevier, “every single kid was sick,” Goodwin told me. When they returned three days later with the doctor, Goodwin asked to see four kids whom another attorney had previously flagged to the guards as especially sick. But they were already gone. **The guards told Goodwin that their illnesses were severe enough that they had been admitted to the intensive-care unit at a local hospital.**  
> …

My bold.

Jesus wept.

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Jesus wept.

Hammer Trump supporters with this. “Do you think that is something Jesus would do?” “If Jesus saw that guard do that, what would Jesus think?” “Would Jesus hold these children like this?”

Don’t say it with anger; ask with genuine concern and curiosity.

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### Author: ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)
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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> [ **What a Pediatrician Saw Inside a Border Patrol Warehouse**  
> _Dolly Lucio Sevier evaluated dozens of sick children at a facility in South Texas. She found evidence of infection, malnutrition, and psychological trauma._](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/07/border-patrols-oversight-sick-migrant-children/593224/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAtlantic+%28The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%29)  
> My bold.
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> Jesus wept.

Just remember, others have already asserted that pediatricians have a political agenda.

They probably don’t think Jesus was a refugee either, because no.

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> **[Pediatricians share migrant children's disturbing drawings of their time in...](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/03/health/migrant-drawings-cbp-children/index.html)**
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> Pediatricians shared disturbing images drawn by migrant children who were recently in US Customs and Border Protection custody. The drawings show people behind bars and in cages. The pictures were drawn by three children, ages 10 and 11.

Take a look at these drawings and tell me they don’t make you sick.

Making america great again.

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### Author: ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/677 "2019-07-04T14:39:42Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> [https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/03/health/migrant-drawings-cbp-children/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/03/health/migrant-drawings-cbp-children/index.html)
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> Take a look at these drawings and tell me they don’t make you sick.
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> Making america great again.

You’re preaching to the choir here brother. These drawings will have no impact on Trump supporters, because we’ve already reached the stage where Trump supporters do not consider the children of these asylum seekers to be human beings. They will simply think of these drawings as amusing curiosities - sort of like when a magpie makes lines in the dirt with a stick.

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### Author: ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/678 "2019-07-04T14:41:58Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Hammer Trump supporters with this. “Do you think that is something Jesus would do?” “If Jesus saw that guard do that, what would Jesus think?” “Would Jesus hold these children like this?”
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> Don’t say it with anger; ask with genuine concern and curiosity.

Many of them would think that Republican Jesus would consider these children to be parasites on the soft underbelly of Trump’s Great America, and they’d think that Republican Jesus would be pleased that the guards are protecting us from these filthy animals.

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### Author: ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/679 "2019-07-04T15:05:26Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Many of them would think that Republican Jesus would consider these children to be parasites on the soft underbelly of Trump’s Great America, and they’d think that Republican Jesus would be pleased that the guards are protecting us from these filthy animals.

Thus far, you have 51 posts in this thread. The majority of them are mostly ranting. We typically allow group insults, but your consistent offerings have served to degrade the level of discourse - what’s the response to this? That Republican Jesus wouldn’t consider these children to be parasites? Pretty lame.

And given that many who disagree with you are posters on this board, these types of sweeping generalizations can be difficult to separate as an insult to a group rather than to a poster. When an attack on a group is inseparable from an attack on a poster is where a person can run afoul of the rules.

I am directing you to avoid sweeping generalizations that demonize those that disagree with you.

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### Author: ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/680 "2019-07-05T00:04:47Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> [ **What a Pediatrician Saw Inside a Border Patrol Warehouse**  
> _Dolly Lucio Sevier evaluated dozens of sick children at a facility in South Texas. She found evidence of infection, malnutrition, and psychological trauma._](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/07/border-patrols-oversight-sick-migrant-children/593224/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheAtlantic+%28The+Atlantic+-+Master+Feed%29)

I wish I could be surprised that people could sink that low, or that there are people who would defend it.

Now I know how the decent Germans felt, watching their country change around them.

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