# What Effect Will Trump's Concentration Camps have on his reelection campaign? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 19, 2019, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738 "2019-06-19T12:15:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 45
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/881 "2019-08-16T16:06:55Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Yeah I’m not gonna lie, if sending a mentally ill homeless person off to near-certain death in a foreign country they’ve never lived in _isn’t_ something that disgusts you, I’m not really interested in debating morality with you, any more than I want to debate morality with someone who is about to shoot up a mosque. You have found excuses to be cruel, and I don’t really want to try to explain why something is wrong to someone who is that far gone. I wouldn’t have done it. But then again if I were king of the US there would be much that I’d change. But I’m not king and don’t rule by fiat. Since we say we care about process and law then in a society where nominally we can change the process and law somewhat democratically then that’s the method we should employ. I remember some hate directed my way because I was against judicial decree for same sex marriage. Supposedly that made me homophobic. No. Not at all. It’s just that in a complex society process matters, otherwise when the apparatus of power is in the hands of one who doesn’t share your set of values the unconstrained tools you celebrated can be used against you. This also explains in part the seemingly paradoxical embrace of the Orange One by the evangelicals. It’s fascinating. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/882 "2019-08-16T16:55:44Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I wouldn’t have done it. But then again if I were king of the US there would be much that I’d change. But I’m not king and don’t rule by fiat. Since we say we care about process and law then in a society where nominally we can change the process and law somewhat democratically then that’s the method we should employ. This presupposes that those who are elected democratically behave like intelligent adults and not spoiled toddlers who throw a tantrum when they don’t Get Their Way. You’d be surprised how fast the process breaks down when this assumption falls into the shredder. > [@](#): > > I remember some hate directed my way because I was against judicial decree for same sex marriage. Supposedly that made me homophobic. No. Not at all. It’s just that in a complex society process matters, otherwise when the apparatus of power is in the hands of one who doesn’t share your set of values the unconstrained tools you celebrated can be used against you. What “unconstrained tools”? A lightning bolt was not thrown from Mt. Olympus to strike down Teh Evil Anti-LGBTs. It was a court case that went through The Process that you so proudly hail. > [@](#): > > This also explains in part the seemingly paradoxical embrace of the Orange One by the evangelicals. It’s fascinating. You misspelled “sickening.” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/883 "2019-08-16T17:20:08Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > This presupposes that those who are elected democratically behave like intelligent adults and not spoiled toddlers who throw a tantrum when they don’t Get Their Way. You’d be surprised how fast the process breaks down when this assumption falls into the shredder. > What “unconstrained tools”? A lightning bolt was not thrown from Mt. Olympus to strike down Teh Evil Anti-LGBTs. It was a court case that went through The Process that you so proudly hail. > You misspelled “sickening.” :rolleyes: Yeah, courts overruling democratic majorities when dealing with social issues has made the courts and judicial fiat the ultimate political prize. 8 years of Trump worth it to you? ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/884 "2019-08-16T17:44:24Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Yeah, courts overruling democratic majorities when dealing with social issues has made the courts and judicial fiat the ultimate political prize. 8 years of Trump worth it to you? But the constant refrain from the right is that we do not live in a democracy. So why is that only important sometimes? Also, can you enlighten me as to what democratic majorities were overruled? Gay marriage? When did the USA as a whole vote on that? I don’t recall casting my vote in that referendum. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/885 "2019-08-16T17:51:11Z")
The courts’ role in enforcing Constitutional principles does sometimes entail overruling democratic majorities. That’s what the Constitution and courts are _for_, among other things. Why bother having laws if they’re always up for a vote? That’s middle-school Civics class stuff. But, someone who doesn’t believe in a general system of morality that guides it shouldn’t be expected to recognize the importance of placing basic principles beyond the reach of democratic majorities, or of simply recognizing humans to be humans. Will Trump’s child abuse and other intentional cruelties swing the election, per the OP? There probably aren’t many undecideds left to sway either way, but it, as part of the mass of indefensibility he has associated with us, may discourage a few of the less-committed deplorables. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/886 "2019-08-16T17:56:32Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > The courts’ role in enforcing Constitutional principles does sometimes entail overruling democratic majorities. That’s what the Constitution and courts are _for_, among other things. Why bother having laws if they’re always up for a vote? That’s middle-school Civics class stuff. But, someone who doesn’t believe in a general system of morality that guides it shouldn’t be expected to recognize the importance of placing basic principles beyond the reach of democratic majorities, or of simply recognizing humans to be humans. > > Will Trump’s child abuse and other intentional cruelties swing the election, per the OP? There probably aren’t many undecideds left to sway either way, but it, as part of the mass of indefensibility he has associated with us, may discourage a few of the less-committed deplorables. No one in here is saying they don’t believe in morality. People are stating that sets of moral principles are not universally shared and that moral principles aren’t really provable. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/887 "2019-08-16T18:01:04Z")
They don’t have to be \*universally \*shared, just \*generally \*shared, and they are. Exceptions do exist and can be found in this thread, but that doesn’t mean they have to be respected - even if they \*can \*be articulated, which those in this thread have not been. And how would a principle be “provable”? Derived from something even more fundamental? What would that be - a metaprinciple of some kind? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/888 "2019-08-16T18:08:17Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > They don’t have to be \*universally \*shared, just \*generally \*shared, and they are. Exceptions do exist and can be found in this thread, but that doesn’t mean they have to be respected - even if they \*can \*be articulated, which those in this thread have not been. > > And how would a principle be “provable”? Derived from something even more fundamental? What would that be - a metaprinciple of some kind? I just said they weren’t. They are axiomatic. And you’d be surprised at how consequential seemingly minor differences in axiomatic systems manifest. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/889 "2019-08-16T18:10:48Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I just said they weren’t. They are axiomatic. > > And you’d be surprised at how consequential seemingly minor differences in axiomatic systems manifest. Murder is wrong - generally shared Stealing is wrong - generally shared assault is wrong - generally shared Many many things are morally generally agreed upon. This is the basis of civilization. I can’t even really figure out what the hell you are talking about. It sounds like you’re saying that there is nothing that is generally agreed to be morally wrong. That can’t possibly be what you are saying, can it? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/890 "2019-08-16T18:14:57Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > Murder is wrong - generally shared > Stealing is wrong - generally shared > assault is wrong - generally shared > > Many many things are morally generally agreed upon. This is the basis of civilization. > > I can’t even really figure out what the hell you are talking about. It sounds like you’re saying that there is nothing that is generally agreed to be morally wrong. That can’t possibly be what you are saying, can it? Because “Sending a mentally ill person off to die painfully and alone in a foreign country as punishment for petty misdemeanors is wrong” = apparently not generally shared. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/891 "2019-08-16T18:16:26Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > Murder is wrong - generally shared > Stealing is wrong - generally shared > assault is wrong - generally shared > > Many many things are morally generally agreed upon. This is the basis of civilization. > > I can’t even really figure out what the hell you are talking about. It sounds like you’re saying that there is nothing that is generally agreed to be morally wrong. That can’t possibly be what you are saying, can it? No. That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying if you are going to argue from base principles you have to assume that they are actually shared. Let’s look at history. Religions typically come with a moral code. One could naively think that 2 Christians would share the same moral code. The religious wars between different interpretations of the same set of moral principles would be evidence to the contrary. Even something as simple as the economic value of a human life has tremendous implications for policy based on the assumed value. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/892 "2019-08-16T18:24:03Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > No. That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying if you are going to argue from base principles you have to assume that they are actually shared. > > Let’s look at history. Religions typically come with a moral code. One could naively think that 2 Christians would share the same moral code. The religious wars between different interpretations of the same set of moral principles would be evidence to the contrary. > > Even something as simple as the economic value of a human life has tremendous implications for policy based on the assumed value. Sounds like a recipe for not being able to ever agree on anything or pass any laws at all. What is the avenue to get around this issue so that society can function and properly govern itself? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/893 "2019-08-16T18:34:09Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > Sounds like a recipe for not being able to ever agree on anything or pass any laws at all. What is the avenue to get around this issue so that society can function and properly govern itself? Historically, it has been “might makes right”, and so you impose your will by physical aggression. More recently, it has been democracy, where we take a poll of the general morals of the populace, and make laws based on that. Currently, it is sliding into fascism run by the minority. We will probably end up back at feudalism, as that seems to be the most stable form of government. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/894 "2019-08-16T18:44:42Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I just said they weren’t. They are axiomatic. Axioms are not “provable” by definition. > [@](#): > > And you’d be surprised at how consequential seemingly minor differences in axiomatic systems manifest. Yes, they can even lead to rationalizing child abuse while claiming it to be “unemotional”. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/895 "2019-08-16T18:59:03Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > No. That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying if you are going to argue from base principles you have to assume that they are actually shared. If such an assumption is flawed in the particular case, then refute it. Some moral precepts may certainly be reasonably assumed to be shared within a society, particularly if those precepts form the stated moral bases for many of that society’s laws. It’s up to those who are responding to a moral argument based on such assumptions to refute the cited precepts or show how the elements being presented as immoral do not in fact breach them. And, in fact, if the moral arguments are weak, contradictory or based on flawed assumptions, this sort of refutation is trivially easy. It’s difficult not to conclude that those who find moral arguments “unpersuasive” are concerned at some level with avoiding the emotional dissonance their proper consideration would bring, with the appeal to rhetorical principle the most reasonable rationalization. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/896 "2019-08-16T19:43:46Z")
> [@xenophon41](#): > > If such an assumption is flawed in the particular case, then refute it. > > Some moral precepts may certainly be reasonably assumed to be shared within a society, particularly if those precepts form the stated moral bases for many of that society’s laws. It’s up to those who are responding to a moral argument based on such assumptions to refute the cited precepts or show how the elements being presented as immoral do not in fact breach them. > > And, in fact, if the moral arguments are weak, contradictory or based on flawed assumptions, this sort of refutation is trivially easy. It’s difficult not to conclude that those who find moral arguments “unpersuasive” are concerned at some level with avoiding the emotional dissonance their proper consideration would bring, with the appeal to rhetorical principle the most reasonable rationalization. Refute what? That people have different sets of morals? It’s sort of self-evident. Look at the different religions, political parties, and behaviors that make up the world. There no sense even debating that point further. But the question came from is it immoral to send a person to die for a minor crime. 1. You don’t know if that person is going to die. Is a person’s complete life the responsibility of the USA’s? I’d say no. I’d say you are responsible for most of your own life. 2. Is the USA responsible for all of the mentally ill within its borders? I’d say no. That’s far too large of an economic burden. Is there room for dramatic improvement? Yes. We have the resources for some improvement but we don’t have unlimited resources and since we are constrained by scarcity we have to prioritize how those resources are spent. As a society we have decided that mental health is not going to get more than the military as an example. 3. Does the US have the right to deport troublesome people? Yes it does. 4. Should it? I believe yes it should. 5. Tradeoffs in policy that cost human life occur continuously. Even something as simple as setting a speed limit on the highway comes at the cost of lives. Is 5 MPH more speed over a 30 mile stretch worth 1.2 lives per year? Someone thought so. 6. These calculations are never linear and they always have dismissed 2nd and higher order effects. For example, if you criminalize prostitution you empower pimps. If you criminalize alcohol you get the gangsters of the Prohibition. If you make 3 strike laws the norm you fill up prisons with petty crooks and dope smokers. So a misdemeanor by one person may have a negligible effect on society in isolation does not have negligible effect on society if the signal is sent that the state ignores misdemeanors. Speaking of which, that is why turning a blind eye to crimes committed by favored politicians is so corrosive. It sends a signal to society that the concept of law does not matter. To conclude, yes I think it was a terrible thing when that person got shipped to Iraq and dies. But terrible things occur constantly just as a function of human existence and the state cannot be held liable for every bad outcome of destiny. That’s the tragedy of the human condition. Bad things are destined to happen. Now we should work to mitigate bad outcomes. But every human institution and system is going to have some flaws. So while it’s easy to say “oh my! that was terrible”, and it was. It’s hard to say what the solution should be that doesn’t cause bigger problems down the road. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/897 "2019-08-16T20:35:27Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > To conclude, yes I think it was a terrible thing when that person got shipped to Iraq and dies. But terrible things occur constantly just as a function of human existence and the state cannot be held liable for every bad outcome of destiny. That’s the tragedy of the human condition. Bad things are destined to happen. > > Now we should work to mitigate bad outcomes. But every human institution and system is going to have some flaws. So while it’s easy to say “oh my! that was terrible”, and it was. It’s hard to say what the solution should be that doesn’t cause bigger problems down the road. Problem is when the ones executing the laws are hellbent into interpreting them in the most cruel ways and then trying to make the laws even more so, it is a sadly predictable thing when they are touched by the worst angels of their nature. > **[Trump's new crackdown on legal immigration: His base loves the cruelty](https://www.salon.com/2019/08/13/trumps-new-crackdown-on-legal-immigration-his-base-loves-the-cruelty/)** > > Stephen Miller keeps tightening the screws on legal immigration. It's inhumane and damaging — but that's the point > [@](#): > > Trump’s latest crackdown on legal immigration looks like a major win for Miller, the leading immigration opponent in the White House and the architect of most administration policy on the issue. The youthful yet cadaverous adviser has long sought to redefine federal immigration rules as restrictively as possible. > > On Monday, for example, the administration announced a change to the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1882 that seeks to reinterpret “public charge,” a term never explicitly defined by Congress that allows the government to deny permanent residency to immigrants who are deemed a financial burden on society. A “public charge” has historically referred to someone who is “primarily dependent on the government for subsistence" based on their receipt of “public cash assistance." Trump’s new rule, set to go into effect in two months although an overwhelming majority of public comments oppose the change, expands the universe of federal assistance programs that could disqualify immigrants, designating use of food stamps, housing assistance and Medicaid as negative factors when evaluating applications for green cards or visas. > [@](#): > > This mixed crackdown on both legal and illegal immigration hurts communities and the economy. But it undeniably boosts Trump’s credentials with many of his virulently anti-immigrant supporters, including far-right pundit Ann Coulter, with whom the president seems obsessed. In a recent tweet, Coulter suggested Trump should be criminally charged for employing undocumented immigrants at his many resorts. > > The Trump campaign confirmed last week that it would not stop airing ads that use the dehumanizing term “invasion” in touting the president’s tough-on-immigration approach, even though that same language was echoed by the El Paso gunman who murdered 22 Latinos last week. Trump’s campaign ran more than 2,000 ads using the term in the lead-up to the massacre. The president long ago made clear that there will be no “pivot” to the center and no fake appeal to the entirety of the nation he’s nominally tasked with leading. He understands as clearly today as he did on the day four years ago that he descended his golden escalator, that his one and only path to victory is to play to the cruelest instincts of the GOP base — and that the way to win them over is with unadulterated hate. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/898 "2019-08-16T20:41:34Z")
For those engaged in this pointless, hamster-wheel debate, one question: why? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/899 "2019-08-17T11:29:59Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > For those engaged in this pointless, hamster-wheel debate, one question: why? It isn’t really a debate, but an effort to make it clear (to readers if not supporters) just what the pro-concentration-camp position is really based upon. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738/900 "2019-08-21T14:15:20Z")
This Just In-[Trump doesn’t think the children in his care are suffering _enough_](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-border-detain-immigrant-children-flores-settlement_n_5d5d3297e4b063487e956d48), so he plans on eliminating the Flores settlement(that small bit of protection the children currently have). > [@](#): > > The Flores settlement, established in 1997 after a 1985 class-action lawsuit involving several migrant children, limits the amount of time the government is allowed to detain an immigrant child to 20 days or less. The agreement also establishes minimum guidelines for safe and sanitary conditions in detention facilities, requiring the government to provide children with basic needs like food, water and medical care. Shit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738.md?page=44) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-effect-will-trumps-concentration-camps-have-on-his-reelection-campaign/835738.md?page=46)