# What emotion best describes your feelings about Trump's victory/presidency? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 3, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237 "2017-01-03T16:53:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/101 "2017-01-09T17:08:20Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > What kind of bizarro world are you living in? Trump has been a corporate executive his entire adult life. There’s probably never been an administration that was more owned by corporate interests. Yes, as I posted in another thread, its like supporting Al Capone for mayor of Chicago because you know that he isn’t being paid off by the mob. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/102 "2017-01-09T17:13:52Z")
Kind of torn. On the one hand, I’m horrified Americans could be so fucking stupid as to elect this moron. On the other hand, it’s confirmed something I’d always suspected but never really had large-scale proof of, and that’s that Americans are so fucking stupid they would elect this moron. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/103 "2017-01-09T17:24:16Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > She never mentioned Trump by name or said he’s going to kick anybody out. That is completely and 100% your fabrication. She may not have mentioned Trump “by name”, but you know who she was referencing and what she was trying to reference. She’s parroting the same leftist talking point they’ve been parroting for over a year and a half now (“Trump is gonna kick out foreigners!”). The funniest thing about this election is how liberals, at large, have completely removed themselves from reality. Trump has never said anything about kicking out all foreigners or rounding up all non-White people. Those are liberal fabrications. But instead of acknowledging them as such, the left seems to be doubling down on them, gladly praising anyone who continues to spout that nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/104 "2017-01-09T17:32:16Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > She may not have mentioned Trump “by name”, but you know who she was referencing and what she was trying to reference. She’s parroting the same leftist talking point they’ve been parroting for over a year and a half now (“Trump is gonna kick out foreigners!”). > > The funniest thing about this election is how liberals, at large, have completely removed themselves from reality. Trump has never said anything about kicking out all foreigners or rounding up all non-White people. Those are liberal fabrications. But instead of acknowledging them as such, the left seems to be doubling down on them, gladly praising anyone who continues to spout that nonsense. You just can’t stop paraphrasing, can you? Who said “_All_ foreigners” or “All non-white people”? ---
**Author:** ![tim-n-va](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim-n-va/32/3001_2.png) [@tim-n-va](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim-n-va)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/105 "2017-01-09T17:33:41Z")
[QUOTE=Meryl Streep] So Hollywood is crawling with outsiders and foreigners and if we kick them all out, you’ll have nothing to watch but football and mixed martial arts, which are not the arts. [/QUOTE] > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Meryl (The Sky Is Falling) Streep: “Screeeeech!!! OMG!!! Trump’s gonna kick out all the outsiders and all the foreigners and art will die and all that’s gonna be left is sports and MMA bouts!!” I think these two quotes share some words but are not even close in meaning. One hint - the word “if”. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/106 "2017-01-09T17:37:24Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > You just can’t stop paraphrasing, can you? Who said “_All_ foreigners” or “All non-white people”? Streep did. ETA: But you can read, though I suspect you will engage in some semantic argument in which you argue that all doesn’t really mean all, or that she isn’t simply regurgitating the leftist talking point that Trump wants to “make America White again”. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/107 "2017-01-09T18:21:36Z")
> [@tim-n-va](#): > > I think these two quotes share some words but are not even close in meaning. One hint - the word “if”. Yeah, “if” as in ‘if we allow him/if he gets his way’ all the outsiders and foreigners will get kicked out and we’ll be left with only football and MMA. I might point out a couple of things that in any other context would have drawn criticism from the left. First, isn’t it rather selfish of Streep that her main concern about our allegedly kicking out all these outsiders and foreigners appears to be that it will be damaging to her art? I would think all this kicking out would be fairly troubling to the kickees and their families as well. And secondly, she referred to Ruth Negga as being beautiful (which is apparently sexist enough on its own these days), with the implication being that her beauty would make it even more of a loss were she to be kicked out of the country. Steve Martin should be so lucky. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/108 "2017-01-09T18:32:26Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > First, isn’t it rather selfish of Streep that her main concern about our allegedly kicking out all these outsiders and foreigners appears to be that it will be damaging to her art? I would think all this kicking out would be fairly troubling to the kickees and their families as well. So she is wrong if she strays outside her field in her speech, and she’s wrong if she focuses in on her field in her speech? How dare she speak at all? ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/109 "2017-01-09T19:28:11Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Yeah, “if” as in ‘if we allow him/if he gets his way’ all the outsiders and foreigners will get kicked out and we’ll be left with only football and MMA. You’ve strayed out of paraphrasing into mindreading now. > [@](#): > > First, isn’t it rather selfish of Streep that her main concern about our allegedly kicking out all these outsiders and foreigners appears to be that it will be damaging to her art? I would think all this kicking out would be fairly troubling to the kickees and their families as well. Dude, it’s a Golden Globes speech. It was an event about the arts. She was an artist speaking to arts-lovers about the benefits of outsiders. I’m sure as a conservative it galls you that artists and art-lovers might have a conversation among themselves, but not everything is about you. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/110 "2017-01-09T20:00:52Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > You’ve strayed out of paraphrasing into mindreading now. Okay, let’s say I give it to you that you’re right and Streep wasn’t talking about Trump and the Republicans. Who, then, do you think she was referring to when she voiced her concerns about all the outsiders and foreigners being kicked out of the country? Bearing in mind that her whole tirade was against Trump and his supporters, who do you think she was talking about that would be doing the kicking? > [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Dude, it’s a Golden Globes speech. It was an event about the arts. She was an artist speaking to arts-lovers about the benefits of outsiders. I’m sure as a conservative it galls you that artists and art-lovers might have a conversation among themselves, but not everything is about you. Oh, I’m quite appreciative of the arts. (You might note my user name.) I, myself, am quite fond of beauty. And style. I like beautiful people and beautiful clothes and beautiful interior furnishings and beautiful cars and so on. It’s been particularly galling to me for some time that the left seems intent on stamping all of this out for various reasons of social engineering. Female beauty is sexist; nice clothes, cars, artwork and houses flaunt wealth and privilege; manners are a way of making others feel inferior; etc., etc, etc. I expect that to the degree the left gets its way, life in this country will eventually become as drab and lifeless and devoid of enjoyment as was the case in communist China and the Soviet Union. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/111 "2017-01-09T21:10:51Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > It’s been particularly galling to me for some time that the left seems intent on stamping all of this out for various reasons of social engineering. **Female beauty is sexist; nice clothes, cars, artwork and houses flaunt wealth and privilege; manners are a way of making others feel inferior; etc., etc, etc.** I expect that to the degree the left gets its way, life in this country will eventually become as drab and lifeless and devoid of enjoyment as was the case in communist China and the Soviet Union. WTF are you even talking about?? It’s traditionally been (and continues to be) the left that’s been the biggest champion of funding the arts in public schools as part of a well rounded education. And of course you can provide a cite for the bolded nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/112 "2017-01-10T01:02:23Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > She may not have mentioned Trump “by name”, but you know who she was referencing and what she was trying to reference. She’s parroting the same leftist talking point they’ve been parroting for over a year and a half now (“Trump is gonna kick out foreigners!”). > > The funniest thing about this election is how liberals, at large, have completely removed themselves from reality. Trump has never said anything about kicking out all foreigners or rounding up all non-White people. Those are liberal fabrications. But instead of acknowledging them as such, the left seems to be doubling down on them, gladly praising anyone who continues to spout that nonsense. Obama never said he was going to take your guns away, outlaw Christianity, or replace the Constitution with shariah law. But you were smart enough to know what he _really_ meant: that he was gonna do all that plus institute mandatory gay porn viewing in elementary schools. Meryl Streep never mentioned the president-elect by name, but you figured out what she was _really_ saying: “The new administration will create a whites-only society unless you rise up and kill them _now!!!_” So if you can “read between the lines”, why can’t we? If I say the president-elect’s goal is to create a whites-only society, how can you fault me for “reading between the lines” of everything he’s said for the last… what, six years? As a side note, speaking of his racism, here’s something I’m surprised doesn’t get brought up more often: to _this very day_, Donald Trump wants the state to kill [five black men](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/08/donald-trumps-doubling-down-on-the-central-park-five-reflects-a-bigger-problem/?utm_term=.77164850d713) who it’s been pretty conclusively established _didn’t do anything_. What do his supporters suggest is the reason he still wants these men dead? I can only think of one reason: to intimidate “the blacks” into submission. To say “You’d better watch yourself, because we can kill you for any reason, or for no reason at all.” (Note that this is not a direct quote, I’m “paraphrasing”). ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/113 "2017-01-10T10:53:02Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > …Oh, I’m quite appreciative of the arts. (You might note my user name.) I, myself, am quite fond of beauty. And style. I like beautiful people and beautiful clothes and beautiful interior furnishings and beautiful cars and so on. It’s been particularly galling to me for some time that the left seems intent on stamping all of this out for various reasons of social engineering. Female beauty is sexist; nice clothes, cars, artwork and houses flaunt wealth and privilege; manners are a way of making others feel inferior; etc., etc, etc. I expect that to the degree the left gets its way, life in this country will eventually become as drab and lifeless and devoid of enjoyment as was the case in communist China and the Soviet Union. Early in the administration, the Obamas sponsored a night of performing arts at the White House. Lin-Manuel Miranda’s rap about Alexander Hamilton went viral. He eventually came up with a musical that won all the awards–and has been hugely popular. Tickets are hard to get but the cast recording is freely available to the public. And a wide range of politicians have enjoyed _Hamilton_. Trump hasn’t used his wealth to catch _one_ performance. His VP choice attended & listened to a message delivered from the stage–_after_ the performance. Trump flipped out. Now we’ll get to see the arts as envisioned by Your Guy. What glittering evenings will he sponsor at the White House? Or will he shutter the place on weekends to fly to his garish penthouse in The Greatest City in the World? (Where he’s been disliked for years–and has never been a patron of the arts. Unless you count those portraits.) There’s more to art than interior design, big cars & expensive dresses. Still, the Obamas decorated their rooms upstairs at the White House tastefully; check out _Architectural Digest_. And Michelle has been quite well dressed–stunning on occasion. Meryl Streep is famous for not dressing to impress on the Red Carpet. But she wore a really striking dress to the Golden Globes. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/114 "2017-01-10T18:04:34Z")
> [@cuauhtemoc](#): > > As a side note, speaking of his racism, here’s something I’m surprised doesn’t get brought up more often: to _this very day_, Donald Trump wants the state to kill [five black men](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/08/donald-trumps-doubling-down-on-the-central-park-five-reflects-a-bigger-problem/?utm_term=.77164850d713) who it’s been pretty conclusively established _didn’t do anything_. What do his supporters suggest is the reason he still wants these men dead? I can only think of one reason: to intimidate “the blacks” into submission. To say “You’d better watch yourself, because we can kill you for any reason, or for no reason at all.” (Note that this is not a direct quote, I’m “paraphrasing”). This seems excessive. While there is doubt as to whether these people committed the crimes against the jogger, I think it’s pretty well established that they were part of a pack of thugs attacking people in the part that night. The main doubt is whether they attacked that specific person. There’s reason to believe they were participants in that crime as well. I personally think it’s more likely than not that they were involved. YMMV. Some discussion of the facts at [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_jogger_case#Trials.2C_convictions.2C_sentences.2C_and_vacations_of_sentences.3B_alternate_perpetrator), in particular the Armstrong Report. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/115 "2017-01-10T18:07:46Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > This seems excessive. > > While there is doubt as to whether these people committed the crimes against the jogger, I think it’s pretty well established that they were part of a pack of thugs attacking people in the part that night. The main doubt is whether they attacked that specific person. > > There’s reason to believe they were participants in that crime as well. I personally think it’s more likely than not that they were involved. YMMV. > > Some discussion of the facts at [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_jogger_case#Trials.2C_convictions.2C_sentences.2C_and_vacations_of_sentences.3B_alternate_perpetrator), in particular the Armstrong Report. Even if this is true, it doesn’t really refute any criticism of Trump, who _called for their execution_ and still stands by this even with the new evidence and entirely reasonable doubts. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/116 "2017-01-10T18:15:58Z")
We’re talking about Trump here. You need to set your expectations lower. But the thing is that he called for them to be executed when it was thought that they were guilty. Forced to defend it on the campaign trail, he justified himself that way. The post I was responding to asserted that these were kids “who it’s been pretty conclusively established _didn’t do anything_” (an absurd claim, since a key part of their defense was that they couldn’t have attacked the Jogger since they were attacking other people elsewhere in the park at the time) and that Trump’s motives must therefore have been to intimidate black people. This is a silly claim. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/117 "2017-01-11T03:10:26Z")
My emotion can’t be quantified in a single word. Imagine a mixture of distaste, disgust, distrust, disappointment, dissatisfaction, and distemper, but none of these descriptors is strong enough for what I feel. That’s an awful lot of disses…and the Donald deserves every last one. Pray that liberty survives his reign. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/118 "2017-01-11T04:51:45Z")
You’ll notice that a diss not included in my list was disbelief; I realized long ago that P.T. Barnum was right. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/119 "2017-01-11T21:37:00Z")
Well, disbelief would have been my choice but since it wasn’t on there I went with horror. :eek: Still in a state of shock, especially as we get closer and closer to the hand over of power from Obama to Trump. (Anyone else feeling faint about them handing over the nuclear football to Trump??) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237/120 "2017-01-11T21:39:09Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Well, disbelief would have been my choice but since it wasn’t on there I went with horror. :eek: Still in a state of shock, especially as we get closer and closer to the hand over of power from Obama to Trump. > > (Anyone else feeling faint about them handing over the nuclear football to Trump??) I remain hopeful he won’t start a nuclear war. That’s how far the bar has been lowered. But I have little hope that everything else won’t be a disaster. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-emotion-best-describes-your-feelings-about-trumps-victory-presidency/776237.md?page=5)