If you’re genuinely in favor of free markets (as am I), you should realize that deception and misinformation are practically built in. If the only signals to the market contained truth and honesty, the entire marketing and advertising industry would collapse overnight.
How shit-kickers in Indana make money from Hay Seeds by not serving Pizza to Gay Hoosiers .
You have made it clear that you think the “it’s different” argument is a con, but this legal analysis of the legislative content of the Indiana bill arrives at a somewhat different conclusion.
What’s Really In Indiana’s Anti-Gay ‘Religious Liberty’ Bill: A Legal Analysis
Not really, it doesn’t. The second paragraph says that although it’s not word-for-word:
What quotes from your link are you saying support the “it’s different” argument?
That’s a really bizarre story. The pizza parlor doesn’t cater any weddings. That’s what they said in another part of the interview. So of course they don’t cater gay weddings either. It’s not clear to me what the reporter asked them and what their answer was. It could be they were saying, “No, we wouldn’t cater a gay wedding [because we wouldn’t cater any wedding],” with the bracketed part left unsaid.
I know that once many years ago I was interviewed by a reporter and he totally bamboozled me and left me looking like an idiot.
No, the manager was very clear in the original interview and in follow-up interviews: they would not deliver pizza to a gay wedding: TMZ
And given the strangeness of the comment, it’s hard for me to believe they were not trying for publicity. Exactly to what end, I would only be guessing.
But it sure worked. GoFundMe for $142K or whatever.
Try three quarters of a million in one day.
Oh yeah it worked. Oral Roberts figured it out, too.
Along with Bricker pointing out the second paragraph, here’s an analysis by a law professor that was involved in writing the Federal RFRA
Why Law Professor Douglas Laycock Supports Same-Sex Marriage and Indiana’s Religious Freedom Law
It’s a lengthy article. It’s bound to annoy both sides of the false dichotomy as he takes both sides to task in his comments. It’s also one of the better written analyses I’ve seen whether you agreed with his proposed solutions or not. Directly on the question of the differences between Indiana and Federal law (my bolding added):
I can’t keep up.
I bet thousands of small gifts don’t count as income, either. $750K free and clear.
Jeez. A guy gets exonerated after spending more than 29 years on death row, but everyone’s sending money to the pizza owners.
I’ll shut up now.
Maybe he should go on TV and say he won’t perform gay weddings.
Respectfully, I do. I’ve lived in Indianapolis for 14 years now, and love being a “Citizen of no mean city*”. This issue has reverberated in my community for several weeks now, and every report of a company or municipality pulling their workforce, tourism, or convention dollars out is heartbreaking. There has been massive miscommunication and misinformation coming from both sides on this, both intentional and unintentional. While I very rarely ever agree with Bricker, he has done an admirable job unraveling what is a confusing piece of legislation, and the repercussions of it going forward. And in my opinion, he has done so calmly, thoroughly and rationally.
*Yes, the origin of the phrase uses “mean” in the mathematical sense, in that Indianapolis is “no average city” - but it is tragic that the alternative translation is slowly being eroded away to simply appear ironic.
Thank you.
Maybe this is a signal you should agree with me more.
Wow! You sound so proud. Congratulations on your victory.
Hateful religious bigot money is a zero-sum game though. One million going to Indiana Redneck Pizza is one million not going to Chick-fil-A.
I remain stunned as to why religious right bigots continue to support Republicans. The best they get from them in actual products is a head-fake pseudo law that wouldn’t have done what Republicans told them it would do.
And it blows up in their face when they find out that there are a ton of people of conscience in real America. So much so that other bigot legislators elsewhere have to come out and give up the game before they get smacked down.
But at least you got a slumdog millionaire out of it!
For all the ‘No, you don’t understapnd! No, it can’t/wont be used that way! It’s just misinformation!’, for the last three days CNN has been running a story of both a pizza place and a florist who are most proudly refusing to serve gays.
So, it would seem, that regardless, this IS exactly how it’s going to be used. And proudly too!
It’s an interesting effect: law passes that is materially no different from federal law and many other state laws; left-wingers cry foul and support their case with false claims; bystanders believe false claims and are outraged; bigots believe claims and are pleased; both react in accord thereto.
But the bottom line remains: the Indiana law does not authorize public accommodation merchants to refuse gay customers. Any refusals made now are in the same legal ballpark as they were a year ago in Indiana. The fact that some protesters believe otherwise because a set of false claims was pushed hard is one result of the law, and another is a set of bigots ALSO believe otherwise.
Now $842,000 in two days.
Not sure I agree. This sum is the result of almost 30,000 individual contributors, for an average gift of less than $30 each. I don’t picture that as a material bar to Chick-fil-A’s customer base.
I imagine it’s for the same reason gays voted in droves for a President who affirmed his public support for marriage remaining restricted to one man and one woman: the sense that lukewarm support is better than hostility.