# What exactly is the fascination with Homosexuality **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 10, 2015, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506 "2015-09-10T11:31:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/61 "2015-09-10T23:08:43Z")
> [@Foggy](#): > > I have never done this in my life, nor do I know anyone who has. Which is a shame really, had I introduce myself as “Hello, I’m Foggy and I suck cock(s)!” I might have had more fun when I was younger. 😛 I have actually witnessed introductions such as described. I work on a university campus. Young, gay men who have recently come out of the closet are sometimes prone to introduce themselves by “Hello, I am \_\_\_\_\_ and I suck cock.” ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/62 "2015-09-10T23:55:02Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > I have actually witnessed introductions such as described. I work on a university campus. Young, gay men who have recently come out of the closet are sometimes prone to introduce themselves by “Hello, I am \_\_\_\_\_ and I suck cock.” Teenage/very young adult behavior. Analogous, perhaps, to the newly converted always being the most extreme; also possibly related to the PC atmosphere on a lot of college campuses where the (supposedly) unprivileged get to challenge the (supposedly) privileged to show their PC credentials by not being shocked. So, not representative of general population behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/63 "2015-09-11T01:43:23Z")
> [@Martian Bigfoot](#): > > There seems to be a lot more repulsion in the Bible Belt than in, say, Sweden. And a lot more in the Bible than in ancient Greece. > > So I’m honestly not sure about that. Enlightened people (like me) can be repulsed, but also believe in human rights. Repulsed bible thumpers, though, can use their religion as a shield to make their revulsion public. I think it’s despicable and cowardly. FWIW I’m certain there are at least _some_ bible thumpers that are genuine in their concern as a biblical manner, but most of them use the bible as an excuse not to grow up. Additional FWIW, by “bible thumper” I’m only including a certain subset of Christians that tend towards other silly things like young Earth, bible literalism, etc. You know the type. ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/64 "2015-09-11T02:04:53Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > The number of replies to this thread and speed of them confirm the fascination with homosexuality the OP spoke of. > > Just sayin’ And your point is…? ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/65 "2015-09-11T02:47:35Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > So no one else deals with what I deal with. I do my best to fight it, but I know I have some in-built homophobia. It’s gotten better over time, but it’s still there. > > It has absolutely nothing to do with sex or even who you like. It’s entirely the lisp and the actions I attribute to being female. That’s a different problem, dahlin’. You don’t have a problem with homosexuality, you have a problem with a certain outward behavior which for lack of a better word I shall hereby dub hypergirly; I have a problem with that kind of behavior as well, but I have a problem with it both in males and in females, and I have a problem with it because I’ve only met one person who did it and who could be trusted (he also was the only person I’ve met who seemed to come by it naturally and not as a “look at me, I’m so cute!” affectation). And while there are some gays who toooootally do it _drop hand_, it’s not exclusive to them, at all. In fact and as you point out yourself, it’s copied from certain women (the type one may describe as being fond of enchanting snakes and distributing poison). ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/66 "2015-09-11T02:52:06Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > I have actually witnessed introductions such as described. I work on a university campus. Young, gay men who have recently come out of the closet are sometimes prone to introduce themselves by “Hello, I am \_\_\_\_\_ and I suck cock.” > [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Teenage/very young adult behavior. Analogous, perhaps, to the newly converted always being the most extreme; also possibly related to the PC atmosphere on a lot of college campuses where the (supposedly) unprivileged get to challenge the (supposedly) privileged to show their PC credentials by not being shocked. > > So, not representative of general population behavior. Concur. I’ve watched two friends come out in their twenties. Both immediately burst into flame, and spent the next year or two covering their office doors in rainbow flags and pink triangles. (One actually yelled “breeders!” at a straight couple on the street, one drunken night. He’s embarrassed about that now.) Both stopped acting like being gay was the sum and whole of their identities as they got older and a little more mature. Come to that, I did the same thing for a couple of years when I first admitted I didn’t believe in God. Darwin fish T-shirts, Flying Spaghetti Monster avatar on Facebook, emails from the American Humanist Association and Americans For Separation of Church and State. I’m just now getting over the need to make sure everyone I meet knows I’m an atheist. I’m sure I was a dick at times. > [@BigT](#): > > So no one else deals with what I deal with. I do my best to fight it, but I know I have some in-built homophobia. It’s gotten better over time, but it’s still there. > > It has absolutely nothing to do with sex or even who you like. It’s entirely the lisp and the actions I attribute to being female. There’s a way in my brain that men act when they are being warm, and a way women do it. > > Yip, it’s a gender norm thing. And, yes, I’m aware this doesn’t apply to all gay men–in fact, realizing that those who don’t act this way don’t bother me was a revelation. So was realizing that I don’t feel this way if I’m talking to you in text form. > > I don’t know why–maybe it’s the always annoying gay guy on TV I grew up with. Maybe it’s that I find cuteness attractive, and so it creates two conflicting emotions when I see a guy being cute while not being attracted to him because he’s a guy. > > All I know is that it makes me uncomfortable and is thus something I work on stopping. And it has gotten a lot better. Exposure is the cure to “phobias,” whether they are the literal “fear” kind or the metaphorical “revulsion” kind. > > That’s why it’s less of a problem elsewhere. Gay people are more integrated in most places than in Southern “Christian” communities. No, you’re not the only one. When my closest friend came out was when I discovered exactly how homophobic I was. It’s much less, but I still do have those lingering prejudices that were instilled when I was a child playing “Smear the Queer” with my friends in the 70’s. Still fight some residual racism, too. > [@Martian Bigfoot](#): > > This is another one of those cases where I realize that I would make a lousy bigot, because I’m just too lazy. > > How can someone work up the energy to worry about _other people_ having anal sex? I mean, if it comes up in my own daily life, that’s one thing. So far that has only happened a couple of times, with mixed outcomes. I can take it or leave it, I guess. But whether the guy next door is doing it? I couldn’t be arsed to care one way or another if you paid me. > > That’s the one thing I’ll never understand about certain kinds of bigotry. How does one find the energy and motivation? I saw what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/67 "2015-09-11T15:35:33Z")
> [@Arrogant\_B\_st\_rd](#): > > Penises in buttholes. > > That alone is terrifying to some men. Given how so much straight porn includes anal sex, I would word it more as “penises in my butthole” possibly. That is the part that always struck me as odd in the equation. As straight men we can watch girl-on-girl, three way, and hetero anal – possibly not admitting it but we watch it. Why should we react different if its identified as gay or lesbian? I know all the standard answers, many of which are in this thread, but there is still some room for confusion - at least to me. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/68 "2015-09-11T15:45:55Z")
> [@Moonlitherial](#): > > Or the determination to say not me Speaking for myself, I was just seduced by the opportunity to post “I don’t care one way or another, couldn’t possibly care less”, and have it be an opinion, and an enlightened one at that, rather than threadshitting. I mean, how often do you get a chance to do that? And yes, I’m being honest right now. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/69 "2015-09-11T15:59:10Z")
Originally Posted by davida03801 Most straights don’t like the gay pride parades with folks walking around in all kinds of weird garb. Frankly I view that as offensive to me. > [@Chimera](#): > > Can you explain exactly how you find it offensive? Still waiting for an answer on this one. Please explain what is offensive to you here. ---
**Author:** ![jayrey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/47e85d/32.png) [@jayrey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayrey)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/70 "2015-09-11T18:06:35Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > You got me, chief. > > All our gay and lesbian friends are functionally indistinguishable from our straight friends. (50-something middle-class suburbanites mostly, with either adopted or bio-kids from one or the other). > > I consider it extremely rude to think to much about what any other couple does in private. it is no one’s damn business how my Wife and I play, therefore it is none of my business how you and your partner/ spouse play. This, exactly, is how I feel. People are just people, regardless of who/what they worship, how they play, what they eat, whatever. My gay and lesbian friends are concerned about their health, finances, kids, pets, aging parents, and careers, just like everyone else. What they do together in private is irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/71 "2015-09-12T17:32:59Z")
I’ve asked about a million people what two gay people do sexually that two straight people aren’t doing somewhere. So far, I’ve yet to get a valid answer. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/72 "2015-09-12T17:35:47Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > I’ve asked about a million people what two gay people do sexually that two straight people aren’t doing somewhere. So far, I’ve yet to get a valid answer. Penis fencing? (What? I’m sure two gay people are doing it _somewhere_… Unless it doesn’t technically make you gay. In which case I’ve got nuttin’.) ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/73 "2015-09-12T17:40:30Z")
And some straight guy and a woman wearing a fake penis are no doubt doing it _somewhere_ ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/74 "2015-09-12T17:42:33Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > And some straight guy and a woman wearing a fake penis are no doubt doing it _somewhere_ Now that you mention it, I think I’ve seen that video. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/75 "2015-09-12T18:05:08Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > I’m sure I was a dick at times. > > It’s much less, but I still do have those lingering prejudices that were instilled when I was a child playing “Smear the Queer” with my friends in the 70’s. > > Still fight some residual racism, too. This right here. I try to fight the good fight wherever I can, to the point of sponsoring the Black Student Union and working with the Gay-Straight Alliance on campus. Ingrained upbringing is hard to fight, and it takes effort and honesty to do so. But no matter how hard I try, I still can’t accept Canadians. The hockey, the poutine…who does sick shit like that? Degenerates. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/76 "2015-09-12T18:06:32Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I think you meant “one dimensional”. LOL. I did indeed. Stupid auto correct! ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/77 "2015-09-12T18:17:31Z")
Personally, I’m going to delay judgement of you and your spouse until you disclose how large your dogs are. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/78 "2015-09-12T21:27:09Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > And some straight guy and a woman wearing a fake penis are no doubt doing it _somewhere_ I bet one’s having more fun than the other… ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/79 "2015-09-12T22:44:50Z")
> [@BaldDudePeekskill](#): > > Actually nor have I or anyone I know. Now, if you ask me, I’ll have no problem telling you, but if I were simply introduce myself, I’d most likely qualify my self introduction with my career…or even that I’m a New Yorker…but, “hey, I’m Balddude and I’m a fudge packer…”’ Doubtful Lenny Bruce said almost the same thing about Jews. “The time is 5 o’clock, and yes, I’m Jewish!” I’ve never heard it myself. I could only imagine someone saying that if it was in response to homophobic rubbish being spouted out. Hell, I might say it and I’m straight. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506/80 "2015-09-12T22:48:06Z")
> [@davida03801](#): > > Most straights don’t like the gay pride parades with folks walking around in all kinds of weird garb. Frankly I view that as offensive to me. On the other hand there are, admittedly, anti gay crazies on the straight side and I understand how that is offensive also. Do you hate the Mummer’s parade also? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exactly-is-the-fascination-with-homosexuality/730506.md?page=5)