# What Existed Before Anything Existed? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [February 12, 2018, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-existed-before-anything-existed/808662 "2018-02-12T02:05:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-existed-before-anything-existed/808662/102 "2018-02-15T18:24:46Z")
> [@GreenWyvern](#): > > I’m currently trapped in this weird alternate universe where Donald Trump, of all people, was elected president. It’s bizarre. It’s like Part 2 of that movie _Return to the Future_ with Michael K. Fox. (Do you guys even have this movie in your universe?) > > Please, please, someone tell me how to get back to my own universe where Bernard Sanders is president. I’ve never heard of the Brooklyn Bridge, but we have a Brooklen Flyover, which is indeed purple. :( > [@davidm](#): > > If you can find a way to get to that universe, let me know. I may join you. > Does it have single payer health care? **Moderator Note** Let’s refrain from political commentary in General Questions. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-existed-before-anything-existed/808662/103 "2018-02-15T20:31:43Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > They certainly do unless you can envision and factor in the fact that mass warps space. The mass of a Black Hole is so great that space is warped down to a singularity. It really has no physically measurable existence in our universe at that point. If it has mass and warps space, then to my way of thinking, it’s physical. Hell, even empty space itself is physical. ---
**Author:** ![Weisshund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba8739/32.png) [@Weisshund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weisshund)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-existed-before-anything-existed/808662/104 "2018-02-16T03:51:08Z")
> [@thatbpguy](#): > > At some point in “time” there were no suns, planets, galaxies, cosmic dust… nothing. At some time there was absolutely nothing. How did this all come about? There was no “organized assembly” of stuff, but there was still a very large amount of stuff in probably some non descript form. Let us called the galactic blob of future? Blob would later go speeding across time and space and assemble into more interesting to look at things rather than blob soup. There was never absolutely nothing as you can not make something from nothing. Some say no time existed before then, but that is not really true. A certain measure of time may not have existed because the thing by which is is measured does not exist, but time does not care (How long is an hour before the earth is formed? Answer it isnt any length the name for the span of time does not exist yet because the thing it will be measured by does not exist, but still that duration of time has passed. Time does not matter so much when you are devoid of fragile short lived organic beings who dont want to be fragile or short lived. How did it all come about? One might say God became aware, and decided blob soup was boring and lonely. Seems probably as good an answer as any as long as one does not imagine God as George Burns. Then again we could be sub atomic particles flying around the nucleus of an atom spinning around with many other atoms in a molecule, held in the trunk of a droopy elephant. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-existed-before-anything-existed/808662.md?page=5)