# What Exit?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 25, 2007, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959 "2007-10-25T14:30:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/1 "2007-10-25T14:30:20Z")

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You seem to be such a tender young thing, and I don’t have the heart to blast you. But the Pit is (or at least was) the place where members hash out grievances and differences, so I brought [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9107698&postcount=21) [discussion](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9107867&postcount=25) here.

[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
First, your joke was funny.  
[/quote]  
Glad to have amused you.

> [@](#):
>
> Second, it is MPSIMS, the home of WAGs. 😉 It was nothing but an educated guess from little hints. It seems like I have picked up a vibe of your working days being passed tense, if I am mistaken, I apologize. You also seem to have some illnesses that might preclude working. I have no clue what your age is for that matter. I was guessing late 50s to early 60s.

First, there was nothing at all educated about your guess. Education implies the acquisition of at least some knowledge, of which you had zero. Second, my illness precludes me from commuting, but not from working. I work from home via my computer and telephone. Third, I am 52 years old. And finally, I accept your apology.

> [@](#):
>
> Third, _“without annoying anyone or getting into pissing matches or being called out as an attention whore.”_ That was not aimed specifically at you. It would apply to a various degree to myself, yourself and pretty much everyone I mentioned except **Mangetout**. \*\*DtC \*\* and **John Mace** , not so much the last part.

Well, if it just applies all around, or is too nebulous to pin down — either way, it is hardly worth mentioning.

Let me just be honest with you now that my anxiety meds are in full swing and I don’t give a damn what anyone thinks of my pitting. I want to like you. I really do. You’re, on the surface, at least, a really nice guy. And I think you mean well in the fullest sense of the sort of busybody Thoreau described — you are intent on doing me (and others) good. But as Thoreau advised, it is from people like you that I tend to run for my life.

It is your tendency to moralize over my actions that so irritates me. Like the deal I made with what’s-his-name to leave. That was absolutely completely and thoroughly none of your concern, and yet you wrung your hands over it like you were my mother sensing that I had taken up with bad influence friends. That one example is typical of the perception I have of you when you mention my name out of the blue as you did and ascribe to me some quality, attribute, or description which is so egregiously uninformed.

Ignorance is not a good place from which observations should spring. If you don’t know but want to know, then ask. If you don’t know but don’t want to know, then just refrain from guessing. I don’t need your opinions about whether I’m doing the right things or the wrong things. If ever I do, I’ll seek them out. Meanwhile, you and I would get along best if you would just treat me like what I am — someone you don’t know and have no need to govern or nanny, but respect all the same.

Can you do that? If so, I am confident that we can become best friends. Thanks in advance for your kind consideration in this matter.

Lib

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/2 "2007-10-25T14:36:59Z")

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I think you’re overreacting a bit. I was myself under the impression that your health stopped you from working, and if it had come up before this I would probably have said “I’m not sure, but I don’t think he works” just like **What Exit?** did. And I don’t see what’s so bad about that.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/3 "2007-10-25T14:44:07Z")

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Yup, he’s a busybody.

And you’re over-sensitive.

You should both cut it the fuck out.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/4 "2007-10-25T14:53:52Z")

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Calm the hell down, **Lib**. Some major distribution crisis in the southeast requires your attention.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/5 "2007-10-25T14:53:57Z")

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I think Jim has just been MPSIMSed. I wish we could still score Pit OPs but I hear that is frowned on.

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**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/6 "2007-10-25T15:00:18Z")

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Worthless pitting.

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**Author:** ![Sal\_Ammoniac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Sal\_Ammoniac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sal_Ammoniac)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/7 "2007-10-25T15:00:36Z")

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Pitted for saying, “I am not 100% sure of Lib, but I don’t think he works”? Even after he apologized for it?

Damn, but the bar has gotten low.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/8 "2007-10-25T15:01:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Priceguy]  
I think you’re overreacting a bit. I was myself under the impression that your health stopped you from working, and if it had come up before this I would probably have said “I’m not sure, but I don’t think he works” just like What Exit? did. And I don’t see what’s so bad about that.  
[/QUOTE]

+1

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/9 "2007-10-25T15:05:49Z")

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[QUOTE=twickster]  
Yup, he’s a busybody.

And you’re over-sensitive.

You should both cut it the fuck out.  
[/QUOTE]

That’s almost poetry. I didn’t see it coming.

1st sentence? (could be) True and it was calmly stated.

2nd sentence? (could be) True and it was calmly stated.

3rd sentence? Would have been calmly stated until the “fuck” gets interjected. Then it just goes over the top. Nicely done!

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/10 "2007-10-25T15:07:53Z")

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**blushes becomingly**

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/11 "2007-10-25T15:09:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
…And finally, I accept your apology.  
…  
Lib  
[/QUOTE]

Then why the pitting?

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**Author:** ![Lionne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Lionne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionne)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/12 "2007-10-25T15:10:10Z")

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I think \*\*What Exit’s \*\* response was perfectly relevant, clear and nice. I thought he handled it in a manner that would satisfy anyone, yet he’s being pitted. Lib, perhaps you’re letting past grievances take up too much space right now?  
Or is this some ongoing thing with the two of you, and he’s pushing your buttons in a way I don’t see?

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/13 "2007-10-25T15:14:12Z")

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I like the way someone who is courteous, who is caring, who intelligently explains a post upon realizing it may have given offence, and who knows how to apologize for things, gets Pitted.

So he might as well have been rude, eh? If he’s gonna be Pitted anyway.

I also enjoy the way you accept his apology–and then go on to yell at him. That’s class.

And the way you dig up old business and fling it in his face. That "[deal I made with what’s-his-name to leave"](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=8271464&highlight=leave#post8271464) was last February, fa cripessakes, nearly a year ago. And far from seeing What Exit wringing his hands over you like he was your mother sensing that you had taken up with bad influence friends, he called your offer “silly and useless”, and, oh, what was that other word? Oh yeah: [“weaselly”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8246821&postcount=78)

And overall he actually seemed to give just a smidge less than a rat’s ass about **you** personally. His concern in that thread is all for PRR.

Way to teach the “educable young uns”, Lib. :rolleyes:

If I had to pick a class act here, **Jim** gets my vote.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/14 "2007-10-25T15:16:38Z")

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This appears to be my first pitting, if it really counts. Thanks **Lib**.

My guesses were wrong, but I don’t think unreasonable. I already apologized for guessing wrong and provided another potentially wrong guess for you to clear up. Thank you for doing so.

You seem to be taking offense from a small post where I was actually putting myself in exactly the same light that I put you. It was not in any way an attack aimed at you, it was meant as a counterpoint to how \*\*Mangetout \*\* has seemingly been able to avoid the squabbles and pissing matches that you and I and many others with high posts counts or post counting rates have gotten into.

Actually I don’t really mean to do you any good or harm. I am glad however that your meds are helping you. **twickster** is correct, I am a busybuddy. I am nosy and opinionated. Like you, I probably spend too much time on this board and like you I really enjoy it. (At least I hope you do.)

As far as the **PRR** , incident, I still think you were wrong and you still think you were not. Do you really want to rehash that? We are not going to reach any better agreement than to disagree (strongly).

I suspect this is mostly still about the \*\*PRR \*\* incident, I have moved on, I thought you did also. No discussion of high post counts is going to ignore you. In fact, I pointed out that you were not the user with the highest post count.

My offending statement in this case, appears to be an innocuous short sentence in answer to a member’s honest question. We were in MPSIMS and I gave it a WAG, clearly stating that it could be wrong.

> [@What Exit?](#):
>
> The really high counts are a mixed bag. Many of us post at home and at work. Guin built up her total while not working and has gone from #1 to #3 as she is now working. I am not 100% sure of Lib, but I don’t think he works.
> 
> Many of us can post at work as long as we are getting our work done and exceeding our goals.

I hope this replies help.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/15 "2007-10-25T15:19:26Z")

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Jesus, **Lib** , I haven’t met anyone as hypersensitive as you who wasn’t a 13-year-old girl. I find it amazing that someone as thin-skinned as you has risen to the rank of VP in a corporation; I would think you would have a hissy fit whenever someone looked at you squiggly-eyed. Toughen up, dude; it is pathetic for a 52-year-old man to be such a whiner.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/16 "2007-10-25T15:20:52Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
This appears to be my first pitting, if it really counts. Thanks **Lib**.  
[/QUOTE]

We’re sorry, but it doesn’t count. You still remain unpitted…please collect your parting gift as you exit stage left.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/17 "2007-10-25T15:23:30Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
This appears to be my first pitting, if it really counts. Thanks **Lib**.  
Jim  
[/QUOTE]

See post #5. 😉

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/18 "2007-10-25T15:24:49Z")

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Oh, come on! We can still save this Pitting! Let’s work up some venom here. Surely Jim has pissed off somebody about something **worthwhile** sometime.

Anybody?

\<crickets\>

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/19 "2007-10-25T15:27:58Z")

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Anxiety meds don’t _cause_ anxiety, do they?

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**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-exit/423959/20 "2007-10-25T15:29:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
… Third, I am 52 years old.  
Lib  
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52, going on 12.

\*\*  
silenus\*\*, Jim IS a Yankee fan. Probably not Pit-worthy though. Just kind of amusing.

:: yes, coming from the White Sox fan ::

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