# What fact is most obvious to you that you hear frequently denied?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 30, 2010, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009 "2010-01-30T07:31:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/41 "2010-01-30T19:56:15Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> Eating less will only result in weight loss if the new, lower calorie intake is lower than an individual’s calorie burn, which isn’t necessarily the case.

[Moderator Note]See posts #31 and #40.[/Moderator Note]

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**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/42 "2010-01-30T20:21:55Z")

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Evolution happened.  
You do not need an antibiotic for a cold or other virus. (And you shouldn’t stop taking an antibiotic once you feel better unless your doctor specifically tells you to.)  
Giving birth is NOTHING like the way it is portrayed on TV and in the movies  
It is OK to end a sentence with a preposition in English.

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**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/43 "2010-01-30T20:30:39Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> Sorry, but it is a fact that obesity is caused by eating too much. It is also a fact that eating less will cause weight loss. These facts are frequently denied, hence it is an appropriate addition in this thread.

Thank you sir for illustrating my point! If you’d like to discuss this (as if it hasn’t been done to death) how about starting another thread?

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**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/44 "2010-01-30T20:31:52Z")

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And I can’t believe how I could fall into the “junior mod” role after all these years of shifting about quietly. Perhaps I should read post 31.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/45 "2010-01-30T20:36:58Z")

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Vaccines have nothing, _nothing_, **nothing** , nothing, nothing _ **nothing** _ to do with the cause of vaccines.  
And we landed on the moon.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/46 "2010-01-30T21:10:42Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> Vaccines have nothing, _nothing_, **nothing** , nothing, nothing _ **nothing** _ to do with the cause of vaccines.

I believe and hope the last word of the above should be “autism”.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![The\_Bith\_Shuffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@The\_Bith\_Shuffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Bith_Shuffle)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/47 "2010-01-30T21:13:02Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> I believe and hope the last word of the above should be “autism”.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

I think it’s arguable that vaccines are not one of the chief causes of vaccines.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/48 "2010-01-30T21:18:35Z")

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The moon landing.

The practical superiority of democratic capitalist societies (in which I include the social democracies & democratic socialist states of Europe).

The historical existence of the man Jesus (tho to be fair, I only heard this doubted once in real life- every other time has been here.)

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**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/49 "2010-01-30T21:19:39Z")

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Evolution happened - and _happened on human populations_, leading to measurable differences between different populations.

Rent control is a bad thing.

You use all of your brain.

Intelligence exists, matters, and differs between people.

Your vote doesn’t matter.

Donating an hour’s wages to charity is more effective and more praiseworthy than donating an hour’s unskilled labor.

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**Author:** ![Vernon\_Vernons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ce73a5/32.png) [@Vernon\_Vernons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vernon_Vernons)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/50 "2010-01-30T21:37:33Z")

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There are significant cognitive and physical differences between different races that are THE main deciding factors in the successes and failures of members of those races in different arenas. The breakdown is something like 95% nature, 5% nurture. Nobody will admit or accept this, in spite of it being plain as day, because it’s an “offensive” concept. I also believe that research and empirical data confirming this is suppressed, though often tacitly.

That said, this calls for even more equality-supporting laws and behaviors like affirmative action.

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**Author:** ![Desert\_Nomad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desert_nomad/32/177_2.png) [@Desert\_Nomad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desert_Nomad)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/51 "2010-01-30T21:54:43Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> It’s 100% obvious to me that it was neither of the above.

So what was it? And if it was just religious (which is ridiculous) why not do the same to any Western country.

Obviously they have a problem with the USA… doesn’t matter who is right and who is not, what matters is how they perceive things - things that drive them to fight us.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/52 "2010-01-30T22:11:37Z")

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> [@Desert\_Nomad](#):
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> So what was it? And if it was just religious (which is ridiculous) why not do the same to any Western country.
> 
> Obviously they have a problem with the USA… doesn’t matter who is right and who is not, what matters is how they perceive things - things that drive them to fight us.

[STERN Moderator Note]If you cannot refrain from debating in this thread, I will not refrain from issuing infractions.[/STERN Moderator Note]

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**Author:** ![Desert\_Nomad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desert_nomad/32/177_2.png) [@Desert\_Nomad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desert_Nomad)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/53 "2010-01-31T00:10:23Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [STERN Moderator Note]If you cannot refrain from debating in this thread, I will not refrain from issuing infractions.[/STERN Moderator Note]

Sorry - missed the notices on the first page midway down. Debate halted.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/54 "2010-01-31T00:10:37Z")

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Ooooo!! I’ve got one:

Racist attitudes and opinions reflect _ **facts** _ (stated much louder than other words) that everybody knows and agrees on, not hateful interpretations of anecdotes.

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**Author:** ![Ronald\_C.Semone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cc9497/32.png) [@Ronald\_C.Semone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ronald_C.Semone)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/55 "2010-01-31T01:27:08Z")

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It is a fact, as shown by numerous scientific studies, that giving children sugar at night does NOT make them super active. But almost every mother I have ever met does not believe it.

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**Author:** ![PatriotGrrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@PatriotGrrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotGrrrl)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/56 "2010-01-31T01:29:21Z")

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The fact that people can disagree about things without either one of them being evil or stupid.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/57 "2010-01-31T01:29:46Z")

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> [@The\_Bith\_Shuffle](#):
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> the text as a whole is inaccurate in the sense that the statement “Lasagna is a chocolate dessert” … is inaccurate.

But there are hundreds of recipes for chocolate lasagna. It’s widely known – was one of the more popular desserts at the Olive Garden chain, for example. See [Olive Garden Chocolate Lasagna](http://www.grouprecipes.com/42007/olive-gardens-chocolate-lasagna.html).

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/58 "2010-01-31T03:27:50Z")

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This one has been often-mentioned, but it’s worth repeating:

Being out in the cold - without a hat or whatever - will not give you a cold.

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**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/59 "2010-01-31T06:58:26Z")

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I deal Blackjack; so every gambling fallacy ever imagined.

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fact-is-most-obvious-to-you-that-you-hear-frequently-denied/527009/60 "2010-01-31T08:30:13Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> Seems like this thread contains more opinions than facts. 😕
> 
> Here are mine:
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> A fat person is fat because they eat too much. Yet even on the SDMB, apologists will dream up all kinds of elaborate excuses for obesity.
> 
> Regular glass at room temperature is a solid. It is not a liquid. Get over it.
> 
> Many people believe it a fact that global warming is caused by humans. They are wrong; there is no solid, concrete, direct evidence that humans can cause global warming. I’m not saying it can’t occur, I’m simply saying that there currently is not enough evidence.
> 
> People think a plane stays aloft due to Bernoulli’s principle. They imagine the air being split at the wing’s leading edge, the air above the wing has a higher velocity than the air below the wing (due to longer distance), etc. etc. This is not true.

I like the cut of your jib. 😛

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