# What fictional universe would you love to live in?

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**Created:** [January 19, 2006, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fictional-universe-would-you-love-to-live-in/340634 "2006-01-19T07:51:24Z")\
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The Plantagenet Empire of [Lord Darcy](http://www.thrillingdetective.com/darcy.html).

Failing that, Santaroga would be nice. . . .

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fictional-universe-would-you-love-to-live-in/340634/62 "2006-01-20T02:20:50Z")

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1. Because I’d have fun being a snarky sort where I could do something.

Known Space. I’d enjoy taking a singleship on a Louis Wu - type sabbatical, til I was desperate to hear the voice of an _angry_ kzin.

One of the Gildcrest colonies in Jane Lindskold’s Firekeeper books. Just because I like the idea of the Royal animals.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fictional-universe-would-you-love-to-live-in/340634/63 "2006-01-20T03:01:13Z")

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Starship Trooper Universe anyone 🙂

Seriously though Culture would be my first preference. Whilst Star Trek with Holodecks has it’s attractions the Culture seems to have a looser morality behind it. All that Prime Directive stuff would drive me insane.

Culture also has benefits of bioware and longevity that ST universe seems to lack.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fictional-universe-would-you-love-to-live-in/340634/64 "2006-01-20T06:19:30Z")

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The P.G. Wodehouse universe where I could hang out at the Drones Club, steal policemen’s helmets on boating night, get engaged to Madeline Bassett, spend weekends at country houses, and pinch my uncle’s silver cow creamer.

And my valet would clear the whole thing up in the end.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fictional-universe-would-you-love-to-live-in/340634/65 "2006-01-20T06:40:44Z")

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Another vote for Heinlein’s _Moon is a Harsh Mistress_. A functional anarchy is just too good to pass up.

I’m amazed no one has suggested _Star Wars_. Granted, being a Jedi has some restrictions, but it’d be very cool.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fictional-universe-would-you-love-to-live-in/340634/66 "2006-01-20T12:51:32Z")

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> Ursula LeGuin’s _The Dispossessed_. I’d love to live in a functional anarchy.

Earthsea!

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fictional-universe-would-you-love-to-live-in/340634/67 "2006-01-20T14:23:27Z")

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Same answer as last time:

The Looney Tunes/Merry Melodies universe.

And now that I’ve read more of Fables, I wouldn’t mind living in that universe, either, as long as I got special dispensation as a Writer of Tales. 😃

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fictional-universe-would-you-love-to-live-in/340634/68 "2006-01-20T14:36:26Z")

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> [@Dewey Finn](#):
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> > On DS9, Quark’s bar has holodecks. He rents time to anyone who has the latinum.
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> That’s my point. The Star Trek universe (and really any other) might be a lot of fun for the privileged, but not so much for the average person.

The problem is that we don’t have enough information to tell how Quark’s (and presumably other such entrepeneurs’) rates compare to the resources available to a Federation citizen – is the cost renting a holosuite for the day comparable to going to an amusement park, or is it more like taking a luxury cruise?

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2006, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fictional-universe-would-you-love-to-live-in/340634/69 "2006-01-20T14:44:34Z")

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Also wasn’t Deep Space 9 outside of Federation territory? Weren’t they trying to get the Bajorans to join?

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I’d like to live here on Earth, in the years following the conclusion of David Brin’s _Earth_. I for one would welcome our new planetary overmind. 🙂

> [@Turek](#):
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> The 'Verse, out in The Black, with a good ship and a crew equally dissolutioned by the overbearing hand of the Alliance.

That’d be my second choice. Especially if I could make Kaylee forget all about that idiot doctor. 😃

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Speaking of functional anarchies… how about the world of _The Ungoverened_?

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2006, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-fictional-universe-would-you-love-to-live-in/340634/72 "2006-01-21T01:20:14Z")

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> [@Steve MB](#):
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> The problem is that we don’t have enough information to tell how Quark’s (and presumably other such entrepeneurs’) rates compare to the resources available to a Federation citizen – is the cost renting a holosuite for the day comparable to going to an amusement park, or is it more like taking a luxury cruise?

Well, considering Quark wasn’t _that_ rich, he’d opened up his bar on a Cardassian station in kind of a backwater system, and at least one episode showed that the Holosuite’s “guts” were kludged together out of scrounged materials (including, as I remember, at least one spatula), I’d say he’s not exactly running a QE2 level attraction.

Anyway, I have a couple of more ideas—

•The world of _Colossus: The Forbin Project_  
True, it’s a world run by an all-powerful cybernetic overlord…but at least he seems commited to ending war, famine, disease, etc., _and_ he’s got the skills to back it up. One could do a lot worse.

•A number of Hayao Miyazaki’s worlds.  
Kinda like an anime _Tintin_, with fewer Ruritanian spies. Lots of cute and capable girls. And a minimum of insane soul-wrenching anguish and unspeakable tentacle monsters.

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> [@Steve MB](#):
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> The problem is that we don’t have enough information to tell how Quark’s (and presumably other such entrepeneurs’) rates compare to the resources available to a Federation citizen – is the cost renting a holosuite for the day comparable to going to an amusement park, or is it more like taking a luxury cruise?

We do know certain things. We know that there is no money in the Federation (see the fourth movie), although it stands to reason they have an economy, since in various episodes the Feds ( 😛 ) have been in negotiation for one resource or invention or another. (Examples: The Barzan wormhole in TNG’s “The Price”). The impression I’ve gotten is that Federation citizens basically have their every need provided for. I would guess that it would be far, far easier to get holodeck time on Earth than from Quark. After all, the Voyager episode “Author, Author” made it clear that holonovels enjoy a wide following in the Federation, and you can’t participate in a holonovel without a holodeck.

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