# What forgotten/neglected historic sites have you been to? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 3, 2013, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-forgotten-neglected-historic-sites-have-you-been-to/662496 "2013-07-03T00:34:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-forgotten-neglected-historic-sites-have-you-been-to/662496/61 "2013-07-05T03:09:06Z")
I’ve been to the spot where Nobunaga Oda died in Kyoto. It’s in the middle of an area with some small shops and apartment building. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-forgotten-neglected-historic-sites-have-you-been-to/662496/62 "2013-07-05T05:16:31Z")
I’ve walked in Stephen Crane’s footsteps and visited the site of the Battle of[Cuzco Wells](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Guant%C3%A1namo_Bay). Something a small amount of people have done. Parts of the tile roofs of the old buildings are still there. There is a small plaque but its placed on the wrong spot. ---
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> [@SCAdian](#): > > I’ve been to Buffalo Bill’s grave, in Colorado. That’s got a visitors center and all, so I don’t know if it’s considered forgotten or neglected. But maybe that’s because I live here, and everybody knows where it is, It’s even got it’s own exit sign on I-70 🙂 I’ve been to Doc Holliday’s “grave” in Glenwood Springs. It is not really his grave, since they’re not sure where he’s actually buried. People still leave decks of cards and bottles of whiskey on the chosen gravesite anyway. The sanitarium where he died is now a commercial building. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-forgotten-neglected-historic-sites-have-you-been-to/662496/64 "2013-07-05T12:02:53Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Man, you guys have been to some obscure places. Best I can come up with at the moment is [Hovenweep National Monument](http://www.nps.gov/hove/index.htm) on the border of CO and UT. Maybe more later. Great one! I was just there a few weeks ago. My wife, 2-year-old child, and I did a road trip around the canyons and Indian territories of the Southwest, and I picked Hovenweep as one of the five or six key destinations, after reading about it in a book called _500 Places to See Before They Disappear_ (Frommer’s). Hovenweep is off the beaten track (we spent the night in Cortez, CO, a cool little town), and is made up of several archaeological sites each one a few km apart from the next, so do a little homework before you go (Ian Thompson’s short book _The Towers of Hovenweep_ is an excellent guide. The way some of those towers were built as if they grow out of the big boulders is quite something. The importance of locating at water sources at the head of canyons is pretty apparent as well. The two-year-old enjoyed walking around the ruins and the juniper and sagebrush – his favorite was Lowrey Pueblo, which technically isn’t run by the same people who run Hovenweep but is really part of the same complex. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-forgotten-neglected-historic-sites-have-you-been-to/662496/65 "2013-07-05T13:08:43Z")
I also drive by Philips Manufacturing Co. (Stoughton, MA)-birthplace of the “Philips head screw”. It is an invention that changed the world! Sadly, no plaque commemorates this!☹ ---
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[Fort Ross,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Ross) and the old San Francisco bay area gun emplacements. Those might be more “lesser known” than “neglected,” though. ---
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> [@ralph124c](#): > > I also drive by Philips Manufacturing Co. (Stoughton, MA)-birthplace of the “Philips head screw”. It is an invention that changed the world! **Sadly, no plaque commemorates this!** ☹ They couldn’t figure out how to fasten it to something. ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-forgotten-neglected-historic-sites-have-you-been-to/662496/68 "2013-07-05T19:33:29Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > I also liked visiting the grave of William Dawes in Boston, who would have been a major American hero if his name rhymed better. Listen my children while I pause To tell of the ride of William Dawes… ---
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I read a book outside Alexander Hamilton’s house. I don’t think it’s neglected, but it looked pretty forgotten/ignored. Supposedly there’s a visitor’s center and tours, but I didn’t see evidence of either. I’ve also looked for the townhouse that was accidentally blown up by by the Weathermen in 1970. The building is gone now though and the address is skipped. Apparently Eleanor Roosevelt was born in the house next door though. ---
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Seminole Indian Army Scouts cemetery near Brackettville, TX. Four of these soldiers received the Medal of Honor and are buried there. [https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.486890618050103.1073741845.161291653943336&type=1](https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.486890618050103.1073741845.161291653943336&type=1) ---
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> [@CatherineZeta](#): > > I read a book outside Alexander Hamilton’s house. I don’t think it’s neglected, but it looked pretty forgotten/ignored. Supposedly there’s a visitor’s center and tours, but I didn’t see evidence of either… Are you referring to Nevis, the octagonal house in Irvington, New York, or to some house on Nevis, the Caribbean island where he was born and for which the former is named? Actually, I’m now remembering that perhaps Hamilton never actually lived in the Irvington house, just his daughter or something. So, I take it you’re referring to some structure on Manhattan (or, knowing how things tend to go in Manhattan, the location of some former structure.) ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2013, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-forgotten-neglected-historic-sites-have-you-been-to/662496/72 "2013-07-06T12:48:47Z")
> [@OldGuy](#): > > Listen my children while I pause > To tell of the ride of William Dawes… Clap clap! ---
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> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Are you referring to Nevis, the octagonal house in Irvington, New York, or to some house on Nevis, the Caribbean island where he was born and for which the former is named? > > Actually, I’m now remembering that perhaps Hamilton never actually lived in the Irvington house, just his daughter or something. So, I take it you’re referring to some structure on Manhattan (or, knowing how things tend to go in Manhattan, the location of some former structure.) I’ve actually walked by Hamilton’s birthplace on Nevis. It didn’t look neglected, but it wasn’t open when I was there either. On Manhattan, I’ve tried to find the location of Aeolian Hall, which is where _Rhapsody in Blue_ was premiered. I think I got it narrowed down to two buildings, but I’m not sure if either still had any kind of concert hall inside. ---
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> [@CatherineZeta](#): > > I’ve also looked for the townhouse that was accidentally blown up by by the Weathermen in 1970. The building is gone now though and the address is skipped. Apparently Eleanor Roosevelt was born in the house next door though. If that’s the one I’m thinking – Greenwich Village, right? – Dustin Hoffman lived right next door. Luckily he and his family weren’t home when the explosion occurred. ---
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