# What freedoms have been lost under Joe Biden? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 9, 2022, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-freedoms-have-been-lost-under-joe-biden/971268 "2022-09-09T13:09:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-freedoms-have-been-lost-under-joe-biden/971268/41 "2022-09-09T20:09:37Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > The freedom to vote multiple times or to vote illegally in the wrong state. > > [Voter Fraud: Members of Trump-Loving Community Nabbed for Voting Twice](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/florida-three-arrested-vote-twice-the-villages-1271574/) And in some states, your freedom to vote or to have your vote counted is being lost. (Once again, due to MAGA politicians, but still _during_ the Biden administration.) ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-freedoms-have-been-lost-under-joe-biden/971268/42 "2022-09-09T21:12:39Z")
We have lost the freedom to be exposed to unbiased information. We have lost the freedom to express ourselves honestly amongst our peers without fear of rejection. This is on both sides of the aisle. All the birds are singing the same tunes ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-freedoms-have-been-lost-under-joe-biden/971268/43 "2022-09-09T21:42:56Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > We have lost the freedom to be exposed to unbiased information. Just in the last 20 months? ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-freedoms-have-been-lost-under-joe-biden/971268/44 "2022-09-09T21:45:03Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > ? No it’s been much longer than that but it’s gotten worse. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-freedoms-have-been-lost-under-joe-biden/971268/45 "2022-09-09T21:47:18Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > … it’s gotten worse. I’m curious to learn what unbiased sources have disappeared since Biden took office, or why they’re harder to access. With cites. ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-freedoms-have-been-lost-under-joe-biden/971268/46 "2022-09-09T21:57:42Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > curious to learn what unbiased sources have disappeared since Biden took office, or why they’re harder to access. With cites It’s not so much that the sources have changed but the rhetoric seems to have gotten a lot worse ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-freedoms-have-been-lost-under-joe-biden/971268/47 "2022-09-09T22:01:48Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > the rhetoric seems to have gotten a lot worse Maybe, maybe not. But that doesn’t equate to losing “the freedom to be exposed to unbiased information.” ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-freedoms-have-been-lost-under-joe-biden/971268/48 "2022-09-09T22:04:42Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > be exposed to unbiased information That’s actually a topic worthy of discussion. We all have equal access to information if we’re willing to do the research. But we all know that most of us including myself will seldom do that research the last several years I find myself doing much more than I did my entire previous life out of sheer necessity. I wish there was some way to legally define the difference between what will actually happen and a person’s freedom to make it happen. We are all victimized by what we are exposed to. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-freedoms-have-been-lost-under-joe-biden/971268/49 "2022-09-09T22:09:11Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > But we all know that most of us including myself will seldom do that research … Me neither. Especially on a Friday afternoon. Akaj out … ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-freedoms-have-been-lost-under-joe-biden/971268/50 "2022-09-09T22:37:47Z")
> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#): > > We are all victimized by what we are exposed to. One thing I learned around here: There is a difference between ignorance and stupidity: - There is nothing wrong with being ignorant about something. Ignorance just means you haven’t learned about a particular thing yet, but you can be exposed to information that, for lack of a better term, fights your ignorance. 🙂 - Stupidity is choosing to remain ignorant about something, when factual information is readily available, and refusing to be exposed to it (or even acknowledge that factual information exists). ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-freedoms-have-been-lost-under-joe-biden/971268/51 "2022-09-09T22:52:13Z")
This would definitely fall into the “danger to the mother’s health or life” category. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-freedoms-have-been-lost-under-joe-biden/971268/52 "2022-09-10T12:44:57Z")
Yeah, but the problem is, is that the doctor is opening himself up to liability. Even if it is a perfectly medically justifiable abortion, someone may still sue the doctor and their facilities, forcing the doctor to expend resources fighting a lawsuit, having to _prove_ that it was medically necessary to a court that may not only be ignorant of medical practices, but have a willful motivation to maintain that ignorance. Even if it is easily won, it still costs the doctor. There aren’t many who are willing to be first, the test case for these new laws. So, yeah, unless the woman is dying _right now_, they are going to be hesitant to do what everyone but the anti-choicers that are in charge know what is best. I mean, if you read the article, you would see that her insurance was not allowed to cover the procedure by Texas law, and before anyone says that insurance looks for any chance to deny a claim, an abortion at this stage is going to be far cheaper than the complications involved in bringing this non-viable fetus to term. Maybe after some caselaw has been developed around these laws, doctors will know where they stand, and be able to take care of a situation like this properly, but given the current state of the judicial system, I understand a doctor being very wary. (And that is assuming that the caselaw creates precedent that an abortion is permitted in these circumstances, not an outcome that I would be comfortable depending on.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-freedoms-have-been-lost-under-joe-biden/971268.md?page=2)