# What goods or services could Ukraine sell after the war is over to help rebuild their economy

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**Created:** [August 13, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-goods-or-services-could-ukraine-sell-after-the-war-is-over-to-help-rebuild-their-economy/969610 "2022-08-13T18:53:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\
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> [@bump](#):
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> It may sound macabre, but I would imagine that some sort of battlefield tourism might be something they could make money on from history buffs, military wonks, and historians.

+1

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-goods-or-services-could-ukraine-sell-after-the-war-is-over-to-help-rebuild-their-economy/969610/22 "2022-10-19T05:01:44Z")

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I just bought a cool walking stick from Ukraine, made from Carpathian wood.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2022, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-goods-or-services-could-ukraine-sell-after-the-war-is-over-to-help-rebuild-their-economy/969610/23 "2022-10-20T04:02:18Z")

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Well, Ukraine has a bunch of surplus Russian hardware and after the war Russia is going to need to rebuild their military…

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**Author:** ![Dahu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dahu/32/3416_2.png) [@Dahu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dahu)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-goods-or-services-could-ukraine-sell-after-the-war-is-over-to-help-rebuild-their-economy/969610/24 "2022-10-23T21:02:42Z")

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Tourism +1

In late 2019 I went on a weekend break to Kiev. It’s a fabulous city with lots to see and do (the museum of toilet history being well worth a visit), and an easy and cheap flight from the UK. The best bit was a day trip to Chernobyl and Pripyat.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2022, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-goods-or-services-could-ukraine-sell-after-the-war-is-over-to-help-rebuild-their-economy/969610/25 "2022-10-24T05:55:01Z")

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> [@Dahu](#):
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> …the museum of toilet history being well worth a visit…

Once a day, like clockwork, about a half-hour after breakfast.

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**Author:** ![gracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@gracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gracer)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-goods-or-services-could-ukraine-sell-after-the-war-is-over-to-help-rebuild-their-economy/969610/26 "2022-10-29T19:42:04Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> But for those wanting to help a little, you can buy handcrafts make in Ukraine.

Seriously! It may not be an entire GDP but I just ordered a dressing gown off Etsy. It came, very promptly, straight from Kiev. I added a note saying how I wished for their safety, freedom and peace.

The dressing gown is lovely and I still can’t believe it came so quickly from a warzone.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-goods-or-services-could-ukraine-sell-after-the-war-is-over-to-help-rebuild-their-economy/969610/27 "2022-10-29T20:58:17Z")

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Also, in the world of small/niche industries in Ukraine, there’s Dnipro Modular synthesizers. They’re still producing and shipping despite the war. I bought a DOT module recently, nice little Euclidean pattern generator.

> **[DNIPRO MODULAR](https://www.dnipro-modular.net/)**

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-goods-or-services-could-ukraine-sell-after-the-war-is-over-to-help-rebuild-their-economy/969610/28 "2022-10-29T20:59:19Z")

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> [@gracer](#):
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> Seriously! It may not be an entire GDP but I just ordered a dressing gown off Etsy. It came, very promptly, straight from Kiev. I added a note saying how I wished for their safety, freedom and peace.

Yes, we troll Amazon and Etsy for Made in Ukraine gift items.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-goods-or-services-could-ukraine-sell-after-the-war-is-over-to-help-rebuild-their-economy/969610/29 "2022-10-29T23:22:53Z")

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I just bought Ukranian-made chocolate bars at the grocery store. They were set up by the register. Too pricey for Halloween treats, but I am tempted. It’s a good cause.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-goods-or-services-could-ukraine-sell-after-the-war-is-over-to-help-rebuild-their-economy/969610/30 "2022-10-30T00:10:27Z")

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actually, if the war ends and Frito lay can get back to the sunflower fields they can grow the (allegedly proprietary) sunflowers needed for the oil they use in their chip

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-goods-or-services-could-ukraine-sell-after-the-war-is-over-to-help-rebuild-their-economy/969610/31 "2022-11-28T06:19:32Z")

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I’d buy a captured Russian Military Motorcycle. I’m stupid like that.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-goods-or-services-could-ukraine-sell-after-the-war-is-over-to-help-rebuild-their-economy/969610/32 "2022-12-04T18:58:43Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Yeah, like keychains made from metal from Russian tanks. This is a ‘thing’ with airplanes.
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> [Amazon.com : Original Aircraft Skin Tags by Aviationtag (Alitalia A321 - White - I-BIXN) : Health & Household](https://www.amazon.com/Original-Aircraft-Skin-Aviationtag-Alitalia/dp/B08VRLQ1QL)

This was my thought too.  
I see a cottage industry started up by the government to sell off Russian war material. Tank tread links, missile fins, spent shells… Stamp the item with the location and sell it. Slice up a rifle barrel in thin rings and make jewelry out of it. There’s no limit to creative repurposing of war material.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-goods-or-services-could-ukraine-sell-after-the-war-is-over-to-help-rebuild-their-economy/969610/33 "2022-12-04T20:07:09Z")

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Oil and fossil gas.

This is a very long clip (almost 40 minutes) since it goes back to the 70’s to explain Soviet, and later Russia’s dependence on oil and how Ukraine fits into all of it. It is also well worth the watch.

I’ve tried cuing it up to 24:00 which is where it starts with what happened 2010-14 and Russia’s invasion of Crimea.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Eo6w5R6Uo8Y/maxresdefault.jpg "Russia's Catastrophic Oil & Gas Problem") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo6w5R6Uo8Y)

TL;DW  
There’s plenty of oil and gas that will help Ukraine in the future.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\
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ETA:  
The video concludes with fossil fuel going obsolete. This is of course true for Ukraine as well, but for the last few decades of its use, Europe will buy its fuel from Ukraine, not Russia.

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
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I’ve bought several things from Ukraine with that in mind. An insulated winter horseback riding skirt (covers you down to your toes, and goes over your horse’s butt), and some utterly gorgeous hand-painted Christmas ornaments. Both from etsy.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-goods-or-services-could-ukraine-sell-after-the-war-is-over-to-help-rebuild-their-economy/969610/36 "2022-12-05T02:37:21Z")

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> [@Ulfreida](#):
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> An insulated winter horseback riding skirt (covers you down to your toes, and goes over your horse’s butt), and some utterly gorgeous hand-painted Christmas ornaments.

Kewl!

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**Author:** ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-goods-or-services-could-ukraine-sell-after-the-war-is-over-to-help-rebuild-their-economy/969610/37 "2022-12-21T08:01:17Z")

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Ukraine had substantial shipbuilding, airplane manufacturing and rocket manufacturing before the war and was responsible for building some of the USSR’s legendary large transport craft. Anatov, builder of the world’s largest cargo aircraft AN-225 is Ukranian and the Zenit Rocket and Russia’s Black Sea flagship Moscva were all built in Ukraine. Unfortunately, the Azovstal Iron and Steelworks has been largely destroyed but I hope Ukraine can get it’s manufacturing mojo back after it wins this war.

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-goods-or-services-could-ukraine-sell-after-the-war-is-over-to-help-rebuild-their-economy/969610/38 "2022-12-23T02:51:17Z")

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I’ve bought a number of craft items from Ukraine on Etsy - awesome workmanship for reasonable prices. Just made my fifth or so purchase of veggie and flower seeds from a company in Irpin - the climate is very similar to what we have here in the Midwest, and they have tons of veggie varieties that I haven’t seen anywhere else. I should poke around and see if I can find a seller of delicious dried mushrooms…

Western Ukraine is somewhat of a hub for computer programming talent. One of my clients has a bunch of contractors in the general neighborhood.

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