# What guns did the Islamic terrorists in Texas use?

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**Created:** [May 6, 2015, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-guns-did-the-islamic-terrorists-in-texas-use/719379 "2015-05-06T13:22:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-guns-did-the-islamic-terrorists-in-texas-use/719379/1 "2015-05-06T13:22:51Z")

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Photos and conjectures here. Also see linked Twitter photo.

One is a Kel-Tec, according to the author, Bob Owens. The other is…

Is this a legitimate centerfire AR-15? Is this a rimfire copy? Is this an airgun, designed to look enough like an AR-15 to win a jihadi his martyrdom?

Frankly, I’m tempted to think that we’re looking at a “faux-15” martyrdom special or a .22 clone, considering we’ve not be able to track down credible reports of the distinctively different reports of a centerfire rifle fire, and the confirmed Glock pistol-fire from the Garland officer.

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2015, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-guns-did-the-islamic-terrorists-in-texas-use/719379/2 "2015-05-06T13:39:39Z")

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What I have read, at sites like [AR15.com](http://AR15.com), is that the 2nd attacker was armed with an AK-74 varient. The commenters based their opinions on photos of the rifle’s two magazines laying near it: a black curved plastic looking one, and a dual drum magazine. Evidently, the first magazine does not resemble an AR-15 magazine.

As far as the responding officer, I have read that he was armed with either a Glock in .45ACP, or what is supposedly Garland P.D.'s standard issue of a Glock in .40 S&W. None of this is what I’d call confirmed, by the way.

Neither is what I would prefer to have when facing two men armed with rifles, wearing some form of body armor (as distinct from a load-bearing vest), and the initiative. Fantastic job by the officer.